My friend, the political situation in Malaysia is far more complicated than you think.

In an example like that, there are more complicated factors that prevent the other regions - B & C aprt from Region A from getting things moving.

Why Region A is thriving and other regions are not?

The person in Region A must be a good friend of boss and geng Datuk. Region B and C have the money to buy burgers or even a bigger market too but no Datuks and Earth Princes around to justify the approval for ther stall. Datuks in region A also has benefits and partnership shares in burger stall.

So that's why Region A will have no problems getting the burger stall and Region B & C will always "langgar tembok" in their attempts?

That's how it really works in Malaysia. You want changes? You've got to get somebody that hear your needs and think the other way around different from those who keeps supporting your pesaing(rival).

Meaning, if the datuk VIPs keep pushing for region A to have everything, region B & C must NOT vote these datuks that keep favouring Region A to stand a better chance of getting flipping the burger. If your enemy has another enemy, surely you join hands with your enemy's enemy to form a stronger pakatan(pact)?

This is political Malaysia.

They are waiting for most of the Penang open fibre infrastructure to be ready somewhere end of this year or middle of next year so they can lease a bulk of it for depployment.

Meanwhile most Singaporeans already having 200mbps lines at home and don't even know how to use up the bandwidth after downloading everything they want in just weeks after install.

There are currently 2 alternative last mile solutions, ISPs in Malaysia will take to deploy their fibre internet:

1) The HSBB route which is owned by TM whereby TM Wholesale will lease out the fibre network to interested parties such as Maxis, P1, and Celcom with base pricing per subscriber besides their own Unifi service. The network covers almost everything from the ISPs aggregation servers/routers right till the customers termination unit is entirely owned by TM. User connections will have to depend on different virtual connections to differentiate the ISPs they are subscribing.
ISPs own Network <-> TM HSBB Wholesale(via virtual connections) <-> User

2) Dark fibre leasing. This is the preferred method by Time. Most telecom companies that pull fibre will have lots of unused strands in their cabling. the come in excess of 6s pairs that oftenly goes unused and put aside for future needs. Instead of laying fibre all the way to each building or area, it makes more sense for a company like Time to lease unused strands of fibre for their own used instead of pulling their own. In some circumstances, areas like Penang where most of the fibre laid on the island us owned by a neutral company which owns their entire fibre network on the island, any telco can approach them to rent their network. I believe why Time chose this route is because it gives them better control over pricing and decisions when the fibre is all to your own use.
Time own network <->Time own last mile/Leased Dark Fibre from other companies <-> User

As you can see in terms of disadvantages:

ISPs on the the HSBB route:

1) Is required to pay the base circuit charges to TM Wholesale and this is why their pricing will be strictly held by the leg from TM.

2) Network traffic has to pass through the HSBB roundabout before reaching the ISP's aggregation servers/gateways which results latency and hops increase. The entire network from the internet exchange, the fibre OLT, last mile cabling and the user's network termination is owned by TM. Users will rely on different virtual connections and routing to reach their ISP servers.

This post has been edited by Ahn3hn3h: Oct 23 2012, 02:53 PM

What are the other choices which Time provides besides GPON (FTTH)?

Any building covered with ETTH? I know there's a leading ISP now in Britain called Hyperoptic which uses FTTB to place a 1000mbps P2P ethernet port in every apartment unit. It makes everything much easier just plug a router into the socket and get on the internet immediately.


Speed wise, blows everything that we have in Malaysia currently.
No need any modem(ONT) or bridge in between. It's already taken care of with the switch fed with fibre installed at the basement/each floor of the building.

Pricing:

I heard the Sungai Petani Fibre@Home, JALENAS 1XS and PENANGFON are currently negotiating for TIME to join their ISP list for their open network under closed meeting tables.

Is it true that if the deal gets through, we'll be seeing Time Broadband coming to landed homes?

I read it from Fibre@Home Facebook pages.

http://www.facebook.com/fiberhomesungaipetani

Celcom, Maxis all have trialed their 50mbps lines using their own CPE. You can see the latest video posted had Maxis Thompson home gateway unit hooked to their ONT for testing.

The company spokeman got say now negotiating with ASTRO for IPTV services and Time to be added to their ISP list.

Their network is not GPON. It's P2P fibre tech.

Cisco is selling off its Linksys consumer division. Admits mistake of entering the consumer market.

http://arstechnica.com/information-technol...nksys-division/

Meanwhile the no.1 market share leader in WLAN and Broadband CPE devices since 2011:

http://www.realwire.com/releases/TP-LINK-M...-Share-Rankings

Looks like congestion is happening at their core routers. It's expected with the curse of popularity. When a service is good and is oversubscribed due to its popularity, you can come to expect this.

Most ISPs will alleviate this problem only by buying more core routers/B-RAS.You are not suffering from very serious speed degradation issues aren't you?

Oversold..end of the story.

That's something you would expect when a service gets too popular. Unless they buy more B-RAS or better ones, consumer services can't demand more because the peak hours and best efforts are conditions outlined in their contracts. It depends on the ISP's attitude and sincerity to address their customers woes.

If TM sub contractors would do a neater and honest job during installations just like Time contractors, Unifi would have been much competent.

People would have to pray not to be overcharged with unnecesary additional charges if they start asking for proper cables and neater work.Else they'll do as they like with the take it or leave it attitude if you want free. Want a better job, prepare to pay hundreds or thousand for concealed work and extra protection on your cables.

Tell me the advantage of using GPON FTTH over ETTH(CAT6 Ethernet cabling)?

It can still attain symmetrical speeds of upto 1Gbps without the need of an individual ONU at every customer's premise.

Bro jjj2,

I'd to add some further knowledge for those who are interested, the modern L2 switches which ISPs used for servicing high speed broadband today installed at apartment floors are actually switches with built in GPON/EPON ONUs for WAN access.

By terminating the ONU with an integrated L2 switch, the ISP saves the cost of having to install a ONU in every subscriber's home and that's substantial cost savings. Apart from that, having an active switch serving like 8 customers per floor with a single ONU termination results in further power consumption savings as well. In fact, subscribers can save on providing an extra power socket for an ONU, with the centralized active switch taking care of that with power provided by building management.

With this, copper cabling can be shortened to very short lengths till the termination point of each home unit.

China ISPs are implementing this cost effective FTTB method in most modern apartments and they use the GPON/EPON as backhaul feeding L2 switches/VDSL2 switches than they do for FTTP(user premise termination).

Also the biggest advantage to passive networks has always been its power saving advantage that puts away the need for active ports but with Google's latest Fibre pilot project in Kansas City, it is known now that Point to Point(PtP) networks can still be achieved through modern WDM techniques.
Meaning WDM Passive optical networks can have the best of both worlds by having the PON power savings advantage and also at the same time enjoy the benefits of dedicated PtP speeds.

The current ODN architecture which most ISPs build today including Time and Singaporean ones are already considered dated. The Google model, have dedicated PtP fibre which runs all the way from the exchange to every home. WDM splitters are installed just next to the OLT.