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TSericmaxman
post Jan 13 2012, 09:14 AM, updated 14y ago

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First, carfags, I only opened this thread, so that FCfags can report their stuff here and discuss. I'm pretty sure that in many car-specific threads, FC is becoming more and more annoying.

This thread is solely for your FC discussion purposes. No flaming or spamming.

And keep all FC discussions here. I'm keeping this thread on autopilot mode, meaning that I wont monitor what happens here tongue.gif

I am in no way a fan of FC discussions. it bores the shit out of me. True story.

Thanks

This post has been edited by ericmaxman: Jan 13 2012, 01:24 PM
yamato
post Jan 13 2012, 09:49 AM

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im a practical guy, not going to spend 90k for an insignt or 140k for prius just to declare im a tree hugger.

for my current ride. i remained everything stock bcoz i believe the parts designed by hundred if not thousand of experience automotive engineers have gone thru proper R&D cycle with proven performance & duranbility.

only thing i did to improve my FC is to make it lightweight by removing junk in the trunk. no excessive load in truck/glove box watsoever.

Still i must stress, FC is vastly depend on individual driving style.

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thx zeroSP for the correction

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post Jan 13 2012, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(yamato @ Jan 13 2012, 09:49 AM)
im a practical guy, not going to spend 90k for an insignt or 140k for prius just to declare im a tree hugger.

for my current ride. i remained everything stock bcoz i believe the parts designed by hundred if not thousand of experience automotive engineers have gone thru proper R&D cycle with proven performance & duranbility.

only thing i did to Decrease my FC is to make it lightweight by removing junk in the trunk. no excessive load in truck/glove box watsoever.

Still i must stress, FC is vastly depend on individual driving style.
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HanzoRacing
post Jan 13 2012, 10:29 AM

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+1 for ericmaxman notworthy.gif

For me it will always be smooth driving and avoid stop and go too much if possible. Traffic jams and traffic lights are no 1 killers of FCs in city driving, apart of pushing pedal to the metal.


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post Jan 13 2012, 10:55 AM

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Ericmaxman angry. Cause he is not Fuel Consumption Enthusiast, He is a fast car enthusiast. People mis interprete is liking.
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post Jan 13 2012, 10:59 AM

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Brave attempt, Bro TS!! rclxms.gif

Only Time will tell if this wld eradicated F* posts in car forums AND esp so in PS BLM/FL/FLX Club Forum... brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

Best wishes & Best of Luck!! thumbup.gif

ps. Only hope this thread does not die a natural death...being so left alone on Auto Mode??
croydon
post Jan 13 2012, 11:06 AM

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anyone try DIY Water powered car

http://www.waterpoweredcar.com/
Vervain
post Jan 13 2012, 11:10 AM

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How much safe hydrogen can you make? You still need energy to perform electrolysis, end of the day it's just cycles of power been converted from another source. Unless you harness the power of the sun.
alpha0201
post Jan 13 2012, 11:19 AM

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ingenious diy solution for better milleage

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dares
post Jan 13 2012, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(Vervain @ Jan 13 2012, 11:10 AM)
How much safe hydrogen can you make? You still need energy to perform electrolysis, end of the day it's just cycles of power been converted from another source. Unless you harness the power of the sun.
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We need cold fusion. As Steven if he can DIY.

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post Jan 13 2012, 11:35 AM

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when that happens we no longer have global warming. there will be global freezing. Back to ice age.
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post Jan 13 2012, 11:40 AM

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Since we are talking about how to reduce FC, I'm posting an article on how IBM planning to reduce FC on a larger scale not only reduces reliant of fossil fuel on vehicles, but to reduce it all together such as fuel powered power plant with an all new battery & more efficient power distribution.

Which comes first: the smart grid or the electric car?

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Decision points may be closer than they appear

You turn on a switch and the light goes on. But when you plug in your electric car, what's going to happen?

It's a question auto manufacturers, utility companies, and city and regional planners are all asking—as are an increasing number of consumers. Who gets the bill when you recharge at work? How do utilities meet the need for all that additional electricity? And how do we afford to build out the infrastructure when the cars aren't widely available—or sell the cars, when the infrastructure to power them doesn't yet exist?

Here's a quick look at some of the needs, challenges, opportunities and ideas that are coming together to make electric cars a reality.

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Socio-industrial concerns

At the beginning of the 20th century, more automobiles in the United States were powered by electricity than by gasoline. But the need for longer travel ranges, a more affordable fuel source, and a reliable power infrastructure soon led to the dominance of the gas-powered internal combustion engine. A century later, a new set of concerns are driving a move away from gasoline and back to electricity as an ideal source for automotive power.

- The auto industry is working to reduce carbon emissions.
- Car owners are concerned with volatile and rising petroleum costs.
- Nations and industries are worried about the availability of energy sources and the impact of oil dependency on global security.
- Power utilities are developing alternate sources of power—including wind, solar and geothermal—but don't have any way of storing the "extra" energy they generate on a large scale.

Enter the electric car. While hardly carbon neutral—even manufacturing an automobile uses carbon energy and carbon fuels currently generate two-thirds of the world's electricity—electric cars would represent a major break with the internal combustion engine.

"In the last six months, e-mobility has become one of the most common topics when we meet with power companies," says Allan Schurr, IBM's vice president of strategy and development for the energy and utilities industries. "They need to start looking at the investments they are going to make. I can tell you, every time we have a meeting with a utility client, they want to talk about this topic, even if it wasn't on the agenda."

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From coal-powered to wind-powered cars

Beyond reducing the use of gasoline, one aspect of a nationwide or worldwide fleet of electric cars could actually help spur the use of alternative, low-carbon energy sources. Today, many renewable sources of energy, such as solar or wind power, can be used to augment the traditional generation of electricity, but only if the sun is shining or the wind is blowing. Otherwise, electricity is today generally derived from coal, natural gas and nuclear power. (The world's power plants rely on coal for 40% of the power they generate; in the U.S., as much as 50% of the power comes from coal.) Regardless of the source, the power generated must often be used at the time it's generated. And most of the current electrical grid cannot shift smoothly from renewable power sources to conventional power sources and back without a great deal of waste in turning generators on and off.

With the introduction of electric cars on a large scale, for the first time the power grid would also have significant battery storage capacity attached to it. If the wind is blowing and the sun is shining, the power generated by these alternate fuel sources could for the first time be stored in hundreds of thousands of batteries.

The fact that those batteries would most likely be privately owned, on wheels and with widely varying travel routes between periods of parking and recharging makes for some interesting challenges, to be certain.

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Challenges

One of the early assumptions about electric cars is that people would recharge the batteries over night while their car is parked in their garage, paying for this electricity on their normal monthly utility bill. There's just one problem with that scenario: a lot of people don't or can't park the car in their garage.

For many people, it might make more sense to charge cars up in a more central location, such as an employer's or train station's parking lot. But this, too, raises questions: Who gets financially charged for that electricity? What if you travel outside your utility company's service region—how do you pay for that electricity you use? And how do all those cars recharge their batteries during the day in what is already a peak usage period for electricity, especially if they are geographically concentrated at work or transit stations?

Another challenge is the battery. Most hybrid automobiles today rely on nickel-metal hydride batteries—the same technology used in many consumer electronics devices. For next-generation products, lithium-ion batteries are an increasingly popular choice for developers because they can deliver even more power for their size and weight—they have a higher "energy density," in the parlance of power researchers.

Yet even lithium-ion technology can't compete with the energy density of old-fashioned gasoline. So batteries' energy density will have to improve greatly over the next 10 years to enable a large-scale electric car industry.

To provide all this electricity for all these vehicles, power grids must become smart grids—capable of sending and receiving data along with energy. Utility companies, having already started down this path for peak demand reduction, carbon management and cost reasons, are also now completing plans and participating in standards bodies to prepare for the energy increase, peak variability and storage mobility that a new global fleet of electric cars represent.

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post Jan 13 2012, 11:55 AM

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I own an Insight.... it is a direct replacement to my Honda City IDSi...

since i'm changing car... what the heck go for hybrid...

And after the decision I made and driven the hybrid for 10K milage now I can say I have no regrets...

all I can say is... people are reluctant to accept new technology... when iphone came out with the revolution touch screen people still stick to Blackberry cause the keyboard... but now people have accept iphone... funny right....
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post Jan 13 2012, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jan 13 2012, 11:55 AM)
all I can say is... people are reluctant to accept new technology... when iphone came out with the revolution touch screen people still stick to Blackberry cause the keyboard... but now people have accept iphone... funny right....
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actually when iphone 1st came out, some people are reluctant to get it because the lack of function (no mms, no 3g, no, bluetooth file transfer & no group sms) Appstore doesn't exist back then so people rely on homebrew apps. I used to own 1.

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post Jan 13 2012, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jan 13 2012, 11:23 AM)
We need cold fusion. As Steven if he can DIY.

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the mr fusion reactor from back to the future ... can use banana skins and beer cans ... lol

QUOTE(alpha0201 @ Jan 13 2012, 12:00 PM)
actually when iphone 1st came out, some people are reluctant to get it because the lack of function (no mms, no 3g, no, bluetooth file transfer & no group sms) Appstore doesn't exist back then so people rely on homebrew apps.  I used to own 1.
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price also
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post Jan 13 2012, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Jan 13 2012, 12:10 PM)
the mr fusion reactor from back to the future ... can use banana skins and beer cans ... lol
price also
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and that too. cost me 1.8k for 8gb. plenty of attention too. brows.gif

back to serius topic.

my main skepticism of current electric/hybrid vehicle is the heavy reliant on rare earth minerals.

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post Jan 13 2012, 12:15 PM

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When there's topic regarding phones, sonic_cd will surely jump in. You should setup a museum to show your collection.
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post Jan 13 2012, 12:20 PM

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calvin_ng yg start dulu. whistling.gif

besides it "slightly" relevant discussion then i steer it towards battery tech.
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RON97.. RM10 can take me 130KM.. true story
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QUOTE(alpha0201 @ Jan 13 2012, 12:12 PM)
and that too. cost me 1.8k for 8gb. plenty of attention too. brows.gif

back to serius topic.

my main skepticism of current electric/hybrid vehicle is the heavy reliant on rare earth minerals.
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there`s also the price difference

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