Bro, yours is out of topic. Here is not discussing about petrol increase issue. And oso whether u can or cannot survive tomorrow, sorry bro, we dun care...

Cheers...

funny kapcai users want to advise people about ownership cost of D segment cars..

Resale value is about minimising losses. Every car will lose and everybody knows that.

In that case, why didnt u go for the Peugeot 508? Best specs of the lot, more powerful engine than all the cars above, excellent interior and shape more or less as bad (or as good) as the Teana.

Not to say peugeot is a bad car but i dont have confident on reliability of peugeot in Malaysia (service and spareparts) especially their turbos and competency of their mechanics in dealing with the car.....and if you like it why dont you go ahead and buy it? And good luck too.....

Got people really believe me use kapcai.

Yeah, me too oso not really confident in peugoet cars. Although it excel in terms of driving feel than teana and optima, but the realibilty is still a question to me. I just sat on my friends 308 turbo n he just took few months only, but he already complaining this n that sound in the car. The gear box already got some tak tak sound during gear changing. This is just what i got the feedback from my friends n it mayb not apply to other pug owners as well or mayb oso he speed alot using his car...

Recently i'm quite headache of thinking which 1 to choose seems i plan to change my ride somehow in september or early next year. I had test drive Peugeot 508, Honda accord 2.0L, Nissan Teana 2..5 V6.

On my test drive result :

1. Peugeot 508 - quite impressive performance 1.6L THP engine, interior, suspension and it is acceptable and good. Only the price is over my effort range. Some more i never ride b4 conti car and i heard & expected highly maintenance cost. I will try again in another showroom to get the real feel over this car and to get know the average service cost.

2. Honda Accord 2.0L - 1st of all i put this car as my 1st choice, due to the brand, 2nd hand value, front & back legroom space which is my 1st priority, also the realiability of the engine itself. From the test drive, i feel comfort with the dashboard view which is not too compact and i feel enjoying of driving it. Horse power will come as 2nd things bcoz how fast u can drive at highway, safety 1st.. Actually I can get staff price for any honda car..it let me save some amount of $$ . But it's going to change new model next year, still i don't have the spyshot of the car.

3. Nissan Teana 2.5L - I can't deny that the XCVT is smooth, but only the looks of the car like a bit uncle even my wife also said it. I'm currently using Nissan Sentra 1.8L, nissan body is heavy, service a little expensive and 2nd value not so high. So far my nissan i still din't face any major problem ( touch wood ), small small biasalah. Only had been change the rear wheel bearing after 3 yrs using it. So, for this moment nissan will be my last choice bcoz i wanna change boat.

But now, KIA OPTIMA K5 makes me spinning around . The exterior is nice, interior ok, sporty, price cheaper, and all the spec which it have where the honda doesn't have it. Only thing is i never have a test drive yet. I get some good information from this forum hope that more member can share their experience on this k5..

Dude, from your statement, actually you no need to test drive any car because your heart already chosen the Accrod in the first place.

Accord is nice to look on the outside, acceptable styling and stuff. But on the inside, the front seats are just horrible. I've driven it on a long distance trip, and got myself a stiff back. The lumbar support is good for nothing. Interior space, I gotta say it's probably the biggest in its class. The rear trunk, is also very roomy.

Build quality, I'd say among the japanese D-segments, this one is probably the worse. Interior rattling is common. After a year, the engine start to vibrate like no tomorrow and the vibration is transmitted to the steering wheel, giving you a good massage . This is especially evident when you turn the wheel while in low revs, like manoeuvering in a car park. It vibrates so badly that you can see the bonnet dance a bit.

NVH, needless to say its hopeless. On the stock good year tyres, it was seriously bad. Changing it to michelin's shown improvement, but it's still bad.

The Optima is value for money. None of the Jap brands can match the Optima in terms of specs. Only the Peugeot 508 is better. Safety is top notch as well for the Optima. After sales service standards still need improvement but so far, their warranty terms are much better than most cars and Naza will not hesitate to replace any part FOC just to give you peace of mind. Kia's 5 years unlimited mileage manufacturer's warranty is the icing on the cake.

Forget about resale value. None of the D segment makes will ever get good resale value compared to C segment cars. Ppl who go for D segment go for refinement, specs, safety, interior room and overall design. The Optima excels in most factors.

Take a few test drives in the Optima (not easy) and then make your decision. Also watch a few reviews of the Optima on Youtube. Ull get alot of information there. But do remember that there isnt a thing called perfection in cars. Every car has its pros and cons. Check and analyse everything before making your decision.

If u need more info on the Optima, feel free to visit this thread:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2310881/+2040&#entry52842340

Cybermaster is right - value for money, no one can beat the Kia optima...other than the peugeot 508

i am just waiting for the right time and until my $$ then , i will plunk down my hard earned $$ on the 508 or optima

why are u even wasting ur time looking at other brands

go ahead and buyed it or the camry liao.

So how many test drives did you give the 508 before deciding the K5 was more your flavor?

if wanna own a k5 i got rdy stock here

Tested the 508 bout 4 times and the Optima 9 times.

So what convinced you to take the K5 over the 508? You did say the 508 being the only other car that offered even better value for money so I'm curious to know what it is.

This post has been edited by zweimmk: Jul 8 2012, 07:42 PM

perhaps the cost of the 507 is a bit high compared to K5, so TS took the K5

No i didnt say that the Peugeot is more value for money. I just said it has more specs. But you pay an extra RM27K for those additional specs. I didnt choose the 508 for these reasons:

1) The shape of the rear end (too low especially with a full load of passengers at the back)
2) Overall design of the car
3) It felt uncomfortable going over bumps and rough road. I tested at a few locations. I know the 18 inch rims take away some of the comfort but i found the comfort to be better in the Optima. I even took a full load of passengers at the rear to test both and they said the same as well. Even when i sat at the back, i found the suspension to be a little harsh.
4) Peugeot's problems with the 1.6THP are still there with the 308. But so far no issues with the 508 i think.

But in saying that, i find the interior design and layout of the 508 to be top class. I quite like the cockpit style. Seats are also better compared to the Optima. And of course, the engine is more powerful. But i guess, it was the rear design which i really couldnt accept after a while.

cybermaster98, look at your reply. I would give 508 few more test drive then.

In Ipoh, no test drive allowed for K5 anyway.
Test drive 508 once today, feel ok with handling and power.
Impressive with the interior quality, top notch I must say.
The headrest is so comfortable and ergonomics, dun really like the K5 interior somehow, seat not really comfortable (stationary). On the go, not sure.

Accord Camry Teana Passat 5series E-Class Lancer A6..all is cun la when you go inside and drive..buduh.