Nope. Even brand new cars stand to gain from installing Stiff Rings...

Fyi my car was only abt 8 mths old when I installed mine. And the difference in feel esp @steering wheel was immediate & of significance.
At installation time, the gap in the subframe bolt holes cld be seen! And that gap was filled up by the Stiff Rings!
Juz imagine the forces at play with that kind of gap...when the car is in motion?

To me, it's a small investment...
Not like a bodykit which is yelling at everyone else on the road!
Stiff Rings are small, not seen BUT felt...
No one knows except the car owner...

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Added on February 5, 2012, 8:36 pmps. A good example of how much the subframe bolts & relative holes in the bodyshell could be so MISaligned is that of Bro Taaron's case.

If the subframe holes are well-aligned to fit the holes in the body, then putting in the Stiff Rings wld hv been a breeze! With even spacing in the holes for the bolts? Kinda centralised? Correct?

However, it's so out of alignment that it was practically impossible to juz directly slot in the Stiff Rings to bolt them together!! The SPACE just wasn't there!!

This post has been edited by zeone: Feb 5 2012, 08:38 PM

Hi Stiff Ring....

Tks a meg for yr responses here re Bro Taaron's case!
Am happy to note that yu guys are keeping an eye to posts here.
It's the way2go to ensure all prospective & current customers feel that yu guys do really care abt their decisions to install yr products...
(Like Mr Chin did for me....rber the Alor Star guy?)

That's the main reason this thread was started...to provide a place for users to get other users' views & reviews.
AND to provide a neutral platform for Stiff Ring to respond to users problems.

Keep up the good work, guys!

Since Stiff Ring ppl has oledi responded to yr prob...as below:
Best solution 4a good conclusion to yr prob is to go back to the same dealer. Do give them a call first 2confirm they oledi hv the solution tho.

Best wishes!

This post has been edited by zeone: Feb 8 2012, 10:56 AM

Hi Bro...
Any updates/progress in yr case?
Sincerely hope all well, solved & enjoying installation now...

Wow! Bro huakenny...yu provide "overseas" service? Or got KK rep?

If me were Bro Taaron, I'd juz go straight there, not need 2wait anymore!!

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Added on February 16, 2012, 10:06 amWhy not go see Bro huakenny's ppl also in KK? Better difference, rite?
If yu kno wat I mean...

This post has been edited by zeone: Feb 16 2012, 10:06 AM

Understood, Bro!
And yup, YOU are the PAYMASTER...must nvr 4get that! Haha!

Hi...
Firstly tks a meg 4yr contributions/info re this mod...

Juz2share...feel the collar ring which connects inbetween the crossmember n subframe is one sided or 2-sided wld depend on how the bolt is bolted onto the chassis.

AFAIK, for Saga BLM/FL, that upper collar ring kenot b 2-sided cos the bolt is bolted DIRECTLY onto the Chassis body ie NO gap 2b filled up.

Dunno abt other makes/models tho.

Over to yu, Stiff Ring...

Bro Taaron probably has yet 2try re-fitting to his ride...

However, Stiff Rings ppl are coming out with more support for more car makes/models.

Maybe with more cars being fitted with Stiff Rings soon, there wld be more to discuss...

This post has been edited by zeone: Feb 25 2012, 08:53 PM

Hi...

For more info & clarification, it's easier 4yu 2get from their sites :

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=387...&type=1&theater

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Stiff-Ring/275332785827140

http://www.stiffring.com

Sincerely hope yu can find the answers there...

Oh?
If not wrong, there is even an animation vid on how Stiff Rings help...in mass production vehicles.
Or similarly, pls Google for Rigid Collars by Spoon for videos of similar nature.

For a more direct approach, perhaps yu can try email yr queries to : info@stiffring.com

Or even call Chin @ 012-670 5167 for a more personal communication?

Best wishes & Good Luck!

ps. Juz wanna make it very clear that me hv nothing to do with Stiff Rings except as a satisfied customer...

This post has been edited by zeone: Feb 28 2012, 12:08 PM

OIC...ok...
Me not know/realise the diff there...paiseh...
Sincere apologies, Bro...

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Added on February 28, 2012, 3:05 pmSincerely hope Mr Chin/Stiff Ring ppl do come in here, read yr posts soon & can kindly clarify....

This post has been edited by zeone: Feb 28 2012, 03:06 PM

3-4 weeks for...custom production?
Or...?

Good4yu & yr ride, Bro!!

Yup, an affordable, yet simple mod but with significant benefits...

Congratz, Bro taaron!!
See yu finally got yrs done...

As for performance & handling, dun feel yu'd get significant diff since yu've modded yr ride so much as is. Mayb on a stock one...?

So yr main improvement wld b the feel @ the Steering Wheel...?