i end up bought a toyota altis..

dun really trust proton as i owned a old iswara aeroback. quality really not up to par, and price isnt that cheap if compare to the spec.

got... try searching a dealer with 2011 stocks...

would you be interested to buy a second hand civic? 2.0 2006 model.

Sorry not interested in high fc 2nd hand car yet. Scared no money

Yup..vote for altis..even 2nd hand altis sure can satisfy u...i will also become an altisan soon..hehe

altis vy uncle look..
at least go for civic la..

Some info on the specs for the upcoming Hyundai Elantra 1.8L:

1) 148Hp & 178 Nm torque
2) Cruise control
3) Push start
4) 10 way power seat
5) Nappa Leather
6) GPS & Reverse Camera
7) Dual zone fully auto aircon

Estimated price: RM 115K++

I'm also looking to buy a new car around this range:

These are my consideration:

1) Hyundai Elantra 1.6 high spec (still waiting for launching and price)
2) Honda City high spec
3) Proton Inspira 1.8 auto

I ever consider for Kia Forte but then I got a very bad feedback for that car, often will have problem for the push start button. My very own close friend just bought 1 on November 2011, just drive for 1 month, sent back to service centre for more than 1 month waiting for the the system's part. But it is a very rare case, 4 of my colleagues who bought for forte also complaint the same problem. Another thing is that I can feel that the car engine is quite shaky comparinf to Honda City. But still a good car to buy consider the pricing and the specs.

Just my opinion though.

What u mean by 'shaky'? U said u got very bad feedback for the Forte right? Only the push start button? What else?

What is your opinion about the 10 units of new Ferrari 458 Italia's which caught fire in 2010 around the world and was reported on BBC and CNN? I think the problem was far worse than a simple push start button issue. Would you say that Ferrari's are bad cars as well?

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Jan 31 2012, 01:42 PM

Hi,

I got the feedback for Forte from the Forte owners. The shaky that I mean is the engine, somehow I feel that the car is quite shaky when the car not moving with engine is running comparing to Honda City.

So far the biggest problem is the push start button system. Only that. It will happen from time to time, you just need to 'poke' in the key into the 'hole' at the center arm rest box. My friend met a major problem whr he can't even lock and unlock his car, need to open manually using his key. Sent back to service center after 1 month of driving, waited 1 month plus to get it done cos service center say it is totally system failure. Like what I said earlier, rare case. I never say is a bad car, it is indeed a good car for the technology and pricing.

Cheers.

if you only have 1 car to drive to work, and 458 italia caught fire when you're on your way to work, and you're carless for 2 months waiting for insurance cheque, then its a bad car.

if you have 10 cars, and took 458 italia for a weekend ride and it caught fire, well, its not a bad car, heck, now they have 458 topless, time to call your insurance company to chase for the cheque for a new topless 458 .

Accidentally repost.

This post has been edited by vong: Jan 31 2012, 02:26 PM

I think i know what u mean by 'shaky'. What ure refering to is the vibration of the aircon compressor la. Its not really a problem but just an issue that lower cc cars endure when they have a higher capacity aircon compressor. For the Forte, the compressor for the 1.6L and 2.0L is the same so its actually more suited for the 2.0L and there is vibration due to drop in engine rpm when the compressor starts up.

Erm, but I do off the aircon as well. Maybe only happen to my friend's car. Haha. So unlucky!

Bro, saw ur pm down there.. Anyway Altis is only available since 2001.. For 1996/1997 is either AE101/AE111 Corolla SEG.. If lucky can get a few already converted 4A-GE 20V engine + 6-speed manual like my current ride..

A few advise...

If i were you (If really desperate for a new car), i will choose Ford Fiesta due to better engine technology (Twin VVT & Ford Twin Clutch (Almost same as DSG) gearbox!!!) & safety spec.. It have the ESP (Electronic Stability Programme) & TCS (Traction Control System) safety as standart that i like and if u understand this technology, i will gurantee you that your accident rate will drop and save you & your car from accident!!!

Just google around about it and you will never regret it! Previously only can be found on those high-end cars like BMW & Merc and now the technology is getting cheaper and more cars are getting it as standart!!! (Also due to strict G policy also laa.. at overseas)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_stability_control

Effectiveness:
The IIHS study concluded that ESC reduces the likelihood of all fatal crashes by 43%, fatal single-vehicle crashes by 56%, and fatal single-vehicle rollovers by 77-80%.

Already most of the countries already a must for ESC=ESP in all new road going cars.. But our country even ABS + 2 air-bags also hard to implement... Really our current G no care about the road users...

Anyway if second hand market, for that budjet can really get either Honda Civic 2.0, accord 2.4 or Toyota Altis 1.8G & even Camry 2.4V (Try to get the highest spec in 2nd market and the price is always not so far compare to the lowest spec...)

This post has been edited by littlefire: Jan 31 2012, 04:09 PM

DSG is VW's technology... FOrd's just a dual clutch... you try then you know the difference... DSG much faster

Just happen to your friend car oni. No worry. U should get one...Amazing spec.

Thanks for the highlight, have edited a bit on my previous post..

DSG & Ford Twin Clutch are the same technology concept but different name only due to copyright (Different manufacturer)..

DSG for sure more advance due to can manually change the gear like tiptronic & also got 7-speed.. (but still also got issue, just google/youtube it)

Compare to Ford Fiesta current Twin Clutch only uses normal auto operation & 6-speed.. (Still better then some still using 4-Speed auto... )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_clutch_transmission

VW DSG = BorgWarner & LuK

Ford Twin Clutch = Getrag & LuK
(the new PowerShift gearbox used in the Ford Fiesta uses dry clutches and electric motor/solenoid actuation.)
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/03/29/ford-po...rts-production/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_PowerShift_transmission

In the end, you get the best value + updated technology car in RM85k range..

This post has been edited by littlefire: Jan 31 2012, 04:10 PM

Sorry bos..wrong typo..hehe anyways its toyota altis 1.8g 2006 / 2007

so many of your friends bought forte and so many of them have problems, so sad for all of them to be so unlucky.

btw, only some forte first/second batch have the start button issue, it is not a big problem which could be easily fixed.