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lordchaos91
post Feb 21 2013, 05:01 PM

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sorry guys, im new here...

i just went to UOB and bought the Gold and General Fund for rm3000


but im not really sure what i bought because the staff there told me this fund is better than buying the gold plan because initially i wanted to get the gold plan..

can anyone enlighten me how does this fund works?
lordchaos91
post Feb 21 2013, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 21 2013, 06:15 PM)
Gold plan u buy "paper" gold. Or do they let u have the physical gold? unsure.gif
U only gain from the capital appreciation and loss from the price drops of gold prices.

With OSK-UOB Gold and General, u are investing stocks of gold producers and other mineral (oil and gas, copper etc) producers.
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but the staff told me the GnG profit n loss is depends on gold price and the mining company.. is that right??

if i invested rm3k, how do i know whether i earn or lose money?? i bought the fund just now
lordchaos91
post Feb 21 2013, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 21 2013, 06:29 PM)
BULLSH*T!

Price of gold mining companies' stocks CAN fall even when gold prices are rising (as in the case in 2012).

http://www.oskuob.com.my/OSKUOB/index.jsp

Basically u take no. of units u hold multiplied by the current price, e.g. u have 1,000 units, current price is RM1.250, so your current value is RM1,250.00
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how do i check how many units i have currently??
lordchaos91
post Feb 21 2013, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 21 2013, 06:38 PM)
Wait for UOB to send u the transaction receipt.

Or u can work out yourself to counter-check.

U bought today right? The price won't be known at least until end of tomorrow.

Amount Invested / (1 + Sales Charge) / NAV price
= RM3,000 / 1.055 / NAV price (I'm assuming u did not get any discount on the Sales Charge, which is at 5.5%)

Go OSK-UOB website and check the NAV price for 21-Feb-2012 after 5PM tomorrow.
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so basically im not investing in gold am i? ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

then what am i investing now?? i see those website put this fund as level10 risk fund.. shocking.gif
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post Feb 21 2013, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 21 2013, 06:50 PM)
U WERE NOT LISTENING mad.gif

Told ya u are investing in shares/stocks/equities of gold mining/producing companies and companies generally involved in mineral resources (copper, tin, oil and gas etc)
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sorry,im slow learner...

so im investing in gold mining company,which means if gold price increase, my investment increase and vice versa? right?

please teach me cuz im 21, still blur in all these stuff


ya,and i saw the bottoming of it D:


and 1 more question, my profit and loss follows the world gold price or that company's performance?

This post has been edited by lordchaos91: Feb 21 2013, 05:55 PM
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post Feb 21 2013, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 21 2013, 06:55 PM)
In 2012, gold prices go up and up and up, but your Gold & General Fund dropped, cos cost of production of gold miners went up and there are complications to production, thus their profitability plunged (or general sentiments about them go sour? I'm not too sure, u can go read it up).
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and 1 more question, my profit and loss follows the world gold price or that company's performance?

cuz just now i called the manager who intro me this fund says that this fund profit n loss is according to gold price but instead of buying per gram, im buying per unit


is that right?
lordchaos91
post Feb 21 2013, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 21 2013, 06:59 PM)
if he/she keep on saying that, u can report him to SC/UT authorities for mis-selling sleep.gif
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if tmr i go there can change back to normal gold account??
cuz normal gold account better right?
or u got any recommendation for youth like me?


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lordchaos91
post Feb 22 2013, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 22 2013, 11:45 AM)
+100

We investors should make the banks/agents see that we have our RIGHTS, and won't hesitate to exercise it. thumbup.gif
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so,from the opinion of all sifu's... is it better to change it back to paper gold or leave it in the fund?

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