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 Fundsupermart - Invest Globally and Profitably, Discussion on investment through FSM

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SUSPink Spider
post Jan 11 2012, 01:48 PM

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Been with FSM since 2009, highly recommended thumbup.gif
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post Jan 11 2012, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jan 11 2012, 10:39 PM)
rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
Investors shd support FSM, low cost investment channel, too push other fund houses to lower down their sales charges
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+100

5-6% sales charge for balanced/equity funds is simply outrageous, in a reasonably good year, 1st year profits just to breakeven doh.gif

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post Jan 12 2012, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jan 12 2012, 10:32 AM)
oh.. that is good news. I previously registered via the website, but it is pain in the @ss as still need to fax and wait few days. Finally, didnt continue to do it..
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just wait them to post u the password only lar...like that oso kenot wait? doh.gif
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post Jan 12 2012, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Jan 12 2012, 12:37 PM)
how easy to withdraw $$ from FSM ?

need fax them document?
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when u open account with them u need to give them a designated bank account, so ur withdrawals they will EITHER mail u a cheque or bank in the cheque into ur bank account, at no extra charges icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 19 2012, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Feb 19 2012, 02:47 PM)
yes, their interface is MUCH better than Public Mutual .  whistling.gif

user frenly, and most importantly, can track your capital invested
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but somehow they got my portfolio profit/(loss) wrong rclxub.gif

nvm, as long as they get my current portfolio value right ok liao biggrin.gif
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post Feb 19 2012, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Feb 19 2012, 10:20 PM)
So for CIMBClicks and HLB, their system will take care everything automatically? I don't need to email them anything such as reference number and etc. after the fund transfer is completed?
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CIMB I dunno, last time I paid using HLB

After u processed an order in FSM, there's a link to direct u to HLPay icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 20 2012, 02:59 AM

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QUOTE(holybo @ Feb 19 2012, 11:28 PM)
sometimes i use cimbclicks to make payment before 12pm, they still price me the next day price =(
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It baffles me why SO MANY people just can't be bothered to check out the website thoroughly and look for the answer... shakehead.gif
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/faq/faq.svdo?id=2409

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Q: When will my order be transacted if I pay by internet payment?

A: If you make a payment before the bank's cut-off time on any business day, your order will be transacted on the following business day when we receive your payment (transaction date). The purchase price will be based on the NAV of the transaction date.
Internet payment limits imposed by each bank:

Hong Leong Bank: RM10,000 per day
CIMB Bank: RM 30,000 per day

Once payment has been received, an email will be sent to you.

These are default limits imposed by the banks for internet payments and investors may be able to increase them. To do so, you will need to contact your respective banks.

Below are the contact number of the bank:

Hong Leong Bank Hotline: (603) 7626 8899
CIMB Bank Hotline: 1 300 880 900


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post Feb 21 2012, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(kuhfayLover @ Feb 21 2012, 10:25 AM)
Anyone buying by referring their recommended fund/recommended portfolio? or based on own analysis?
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I have
OSK-UOB KidSave Trust - current recommended fund
AmDynamic Bond - FSM all-time favourite MYR bond fund thumbup.gif
AmBond - current recommended fund
Eastspring Investments Global Leaders MY Fund - past recommended fund
Eastspring Investments Global Emerging Markets Fund - past recommended fund

do I answer your question? laugh.gif

of cos, I also did own analysis and selection too wink.gif


Added on February 21, 2012, 10:43 am
QUOTE(kucingfight @ Feb 20 2012, 11:14 PM)
bro, u can juz go to their site, it's all self explained and guided

* don mean to be rude, but let's try to keep this thread clean n useful
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+100

ppl should learn to TRY find out on own initiative 1st, nowadays most online sites are self-explanatory

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post Feb 21 2012, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(kuhfayLover @ Feb 21 2012, 10:53 AM)
Yeah, u did, just see how many of us are referring that too.  biggrin.gif
I'm one of the buyer of that "all-time favorite" fund, and now thinking of diversifying my eggs.
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Refer to FSM's "Recommended Portfolio" for a rough guide on building a diversified portfolio

MYR Bond
MYR Equities
Asia Ex-Japan Equities
Emerging Market Equities
Global Equities

The % of each is up to u icon_idea.gif
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post Feb 22 2012, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(umapathy @ Feb 22 2012, 03:33 PM)
Hai Bro,

What do you think about OSK Dana Islam?

I bought that.

Any recommendations?

Thanks a lot.
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Sorry I'm never interesed in MYR Equity funds, prefer exposure to MYR equities thru MYR Balanced funds wink.gif
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post Feb 23 2012, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(rubetrio @ Feb 23 2012, 11:56 AM)
Correct, they are just an UT agent. can't really compare.

But what I wanna highlight is that, they really change they way how we invest. Imagine, now i can have a portfolio with built up with all the best funds, and all consolidated under one holdings page, isn't that great?

Hope they will carry Public Mutual funds one day.  smile.gif
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bcos they have most of the fund houses thumbup.gif
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post Feb 24 2012, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Feb 23 2012, 11:50 PM)
maybe,
PM has more than 40k agents. largest in malaysia private UTMC. or PM itself very loyal to agents. investor only can buy/sell/switch in FSM. thats why less SC.

i think FSM managemnt fee is higher than PM.(the fund company + FSM), ya, where else FSM can make money with less SC. pls correct me if i mistake. and some has exit fee too in FSM.
some investors still need agents to educate them abt UT too.
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bro, mgmt fees and exit fees (if any) are charged by the Fund Manager, not FSM. FSM is just an "agent" for the Fund Houses. Like AmDynamic Bond, whether u buy from AmBank or Hong Leong Bank or FSM also 0% entry, 1% exit. Mgmt fees also no difference. icon_rolleyes.gif

FSM make money from not having to support agents and low overheads from having to maintain only 2 offices nationwide (if I'm not mistaken they only have offices at KL and Penang). If they wanted to they can even operate from just 1 office. icon_idea.gif

However, I agree with you on red
Not everyone has the ability, time and initiative to comprehend how UT works. An agent would be helpful for them. Just as some ppl can trade shares on9, some prefer the services of a broker and they don't mind paying more brokerage fees. nod.gif

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post Feb 24 2012, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 24 2012, 11:57 AM)
Balanced funds is not worth it.... better to buy equity and bond funds to mix your self.

Just calculate this.. average balanced funds have sales charge of 2% and management fees of 1.5%, holding 50% bond in FSM
If you buy 50% bond and 50% equity separately your charges is much much lower, and it is easy for you to rebalanced themselves. If you buy 50%/50% then your average charges is 1% sales charge and 1.25% management fees.   brows.gif
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Y I TAK PERNAH THOUGHT OF THIS cry.gif

I thought MYR Focus Balanced Fund (KidSave should be classified as "MYR Focus", becos it has mandate to invest up to 30% of its assets in Asia Ex-Japan), I can every month close 1 eye buy in RM100 regardless of market condition and leave the balancing work to OSK-UOB... blush.gif

So far KidSave doing not too bad mar...averaging 10% p.a. flex.gif

but Kenanga Growth doing in excess of 10% p.a. hmm.gif
AmDynamic Bond also senang2 can do at least 6% p.a. hmm.gif

Ok, I'm dumb doh.gif

but problem is Kenanga Growth is 100% MYR...I wanted some exposure to Asia Ex-Japan unsure.gif

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post Feb 24 2012, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 24 2012, 01:34 PM)
No probelm mah.. if your kid save has 30% (equity portion)exposure to Asia ex. Japan.. then you can also formulate yourself.

50% Bond Fund
35% Equity - MY
15% Equity - Asia ex Japan

Then you can select the best fund in each category. I always see that those 'rojak' funds never perform good as they have too many things to focus at one time.  laugh.gif
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Today baru topped up RM150++ into KidSave to make it round RM500 doh.gif
Nvm lar amount not big, just leave it there to grow blush.gif

Bond - AmDynamic
Equity MYR - Kenanga
Equity Asia Ex-Japan - ??? unsure.gif

OSK-UOB Equity Trust last time an outperformer...they can invest up to 50% in Asia Ex-Japan with remainder in MYR Equity I think. But last 1-2 year sink into oblivion rclxub.gif

FSM got Eastspring Investments Asia Ex-Japan & Asia Ex-Japan Shariah, the Shariah variant seem to be doing quite well

Pheim Asia Ex-Japan more into Asia Ex-Japan small-mid cap hmm.gif


Added on February 24, 2012, 1:46 pm
QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Feb 24 2012, 01:38 PM)
Thus, better to invest in specialized/focused equity funds and create yr own rojak by Asset Allocation
Thus we need to continuously learn / be open with ideas - that's why we're here in this forum gua
Different folks, different strokes, different point of views & reality - thus, lots of possibilities to learn/share
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Wong Seafood wave.gif

Well said rclxms.gif

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post Feb 24 2012, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 24 2012, 01:42 PM)
Balancing is easy mah.. only need to once every 6 months or so. Open account, if bond highr % then switch some to equity and if equity higher % switch to bond loh. 2 menit job only.. no need to pay ppl do?  laugh.gif

Having separate equity/bond also have advantage, you think stock over value.. then you can put more into bond and get to KEEP the switching credit during under value to where you switch from bond to equity.  rclxms.gif Or it you don;t want think so much, just keep it 50%/50% all the time, even OSK does that.  laugh.gif
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Then u gotta pick 2 funds from same fund house shakehead.gif

Prob is, AmInvestment dun have an obvious strong performer in MYR Equity category doh.gif

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 24 2012, 01:52 PM)
No need.. FSM switching credit works between all funds and between houses.. except for few odd ones.  tongue.gif
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gark, u troll me dry.gif

Q: Is credit system applicable to all switching?

A: No, Credit system is only applicable to Intra-switch, not for Inter-switch.
However, there are certain funds which are not available for Intra-Switch. Please refer to SWITCHING OF FUND FAQ for more information.

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/faq/faq.svdo?id=2001
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post Feb 24 2012, 03:14 PM

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so, conclusion is, Balanced Fund only suitable for ppl who dun hv time n skill to balance his portfolio i.e. lazy ppl

lucky i only bought RM500... sweat.gif
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post Mar 1 2012, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 1 2012, 08:55 PM)
It's good time to go into Kenanga Growth Fund now.

It has touches 1 year and 3 year HIGH.

I want to take advantage of the 1% service charge.
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The very reason u mentioned is the reason putting me off this fund sweat.gif

Among Asia Ex-Japan markets, Malaysian shares have one of the highest PE valuation at the moment. And recent corporate earnings do not seem to be too rosy...
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post Mar 1 2012, 11:12 PM

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Dividend in UT is TOTALLY different to dividend in shares

Yea it's purely left hand go right hand, zero effect doh.gif
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post Mar 1 2012, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 1 2012, 11:15 PM)
OK. How about other funds to recommend beside the aforementioned two?
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Refer to FSM's "Recommended Funds" and "Recommended Portfolios"

Alliance Global Equities Fund also have been a solid performer, but it's a lot more riskier. 2/3 in growing Asian markets, 1/3 in US, UK, Germany, France & Japan.

Eastspring Investments (Formerly Prudential) Asia Pacific Shariah Equity also a solid performer. Asia Ex-Japan equity fund.

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