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post Feb 17 2013, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 17 2013, 06:51 PM)
oh ok.. so the epf on jan 2012 only get full 6.15% lo.. so dividend different from interest rate at epf? or epf no interest one?
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Interest=dividend=interest

If they call it "interest", Muslims gonna rage tongue.gif

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Feb 17 2013, 07:00 PM
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post Feb 17 2013, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 17 2013, 09:08 PM)
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is tis ok? but i am abit uncertain on the market that whether now is a right time to go into the market or not, looks like US economy is shaking, then recently China & HK is also having some drop in their indexes, Japan also problem. Euro crisis, then finally malaysia general election ><
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If u are worried about macroeconomic issues impact on equities, I've got something else to worry u tongue.gif

Look at the bond yields...Australian government 10-year bond yield is rising...Brazilian 10-year bond yield is also rising. I'd say that yields are "normalising", they have been hovering at multi-year lows for some time already...still wanna go overweight on bonds? brows.gif

That's just about Asian and EM bonds. Asia Pac ex-Japan and EM economic growth is pretty decent, thus these regions may adjust interest rates (upward) sooner than u expect. On the contrary, Japan has just started with expansionary policies, and US have expressed commitment to keep rates low for some time. Americans will look for yield away from Treasurys...where to look for other than dividend-yielding stocks? With that, the Dow and S&P 500 uptrend might have further legs to go.

On the "global" portion of your equity portfolio, may I comment that both Pacific GS and Hwang AQ has one similarity? They are relatively "trading-happy" funds. U may want to consider a more "buy-and-hold" equity fund to balance things off. Alliance Global Equities and OSK-UOB Global Equity Yield merits your consideration. And do bear in mind, as at September 2012 report, Pacific GS is overweight Asia Ex-Japan, it only has 20% in US+Europe.

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post Feb 17 2013, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 17 2013, 09:14 PM)
LOL not i wan support them la.. i see their performance quite good ma.. especially hwang select bond.. i really need a very solid performing bond as foundation, i see hwang select bond doesnt disappoint, with some good ROI compared to Kenanga and AmBond. Would love to buy AmDynamic but their counter closed edi.. wat to do lol..
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I believe the reason why Kenanga Bond is quite popular is because of Kenanga Growth Fund, investors want the flexibility of intra-switching. Other than that, there are many other strong bond funds out there.
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post Feb 17 2013, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 17 2013, 09:38 PM)
Oh, u mean bond is reaching a limit? Sorry but i cannot analyze let say bond yield is rising, then what is the effects that it may brought, so as the region tat adjust the interest rates, if interest rates higher, means ppl rather put money in bank? And also, u talking about US side, u mean US market is quite optimistic?

Oh ok, maybe i should consider either one of them and take a more stable global equity fund.
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Let me use a simple example to illustrate, then u pakai your own imagination to put into perspective...

Today I lend RM100,000 to Ah Jeep at interest rate of 9% p.a. Bank 1-month FD rate is now 3%. In simplistic language, I perceive Ah Jeep's credit risk to warrant 3x of bank FD rate.

Not long after, bank 1-month FD rate rose to 5% due to Bank Negara adjusting interest rates. If Ah Jeep were to come to me for a fresh loan now, I'd only lend to him at 15% p.a.

Let's say I need cash now, the simplest way would be to "sell" Ah Jeep's debt to a third party ("hey, who wants to take over this loan?") But do u think I still can sell this 9% RM100,000 for RM100,000? Hell no! Here's the math (assuming it's an annuity i.e. no maturity date, cos the math is simpler tongue.gif ):

Annual interest payment for Ah Jeep's loan:
RM100,000 x 9% = RM9,000

How much can I get by selling Ah Jeep's loan to a third party?
RM9,000 x 100/15 = RM60,000
RM9,000 is 15% of RM60,000

Understand the illustration?

When rates rise, existing bonds will experience paper loss. So, don't buy too much into bond funds now...take it slow and easy.

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post Feb 17 2013, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 17 2013, 09:38 PM)
BUt looking at OSK GEY, their last year performance is 5.33% and their recent years performance isnt up to par with let say Pacific GS and AQ. I am looking at long term, maybe 5-10yrs period, i would hope my portfolio can do 10-15% ROI is considered good enough for me. Maybe i am quite noob, but arent that the main purpose u invest is all about the return? Please do enlighten me for anything i had said wrongly, i am still learning tho biggrin.gif
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The point is to have a well-diversified portfolio to reduce portfolio volatility and enhance risk-weighted returns. I know OUGEYF's past performance isn't really inspiring, but its investing mandate is what keeping me interested - dividend-yielding global equities with more emphasis on developed markets. I allocate 2/3 of my global equity to OUGEYF, 1/3 to Pacific GS. Will monitor how well this allocation works, I might even rebalance to 50/50 in the future. I've just started in Pacific GS this month, but have been holding OUGEYF for some time already, yea its IRR is just a puny 2.7% blush.gif

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post Feb 17 2013, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 17 2013, 10:09 PM)
yeah, maybe different ppl got different taste, even in investment lol.. in between alliance and osk, alliance is a better performer lol.. anyhow i gonna kickstart my portfolio, but headach-ing on what should i go for first >< i dont haveĀ  hit the minimum investment amount for all the fund in my portfolio..
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U have not explored FSM website thoroughly (AGAIN) grumble.gif
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/buyse...pecialList.svdo?

Sadly, ALL HwangIM funds are not available for RSP Special tongue.gif

Alliance Global Equities also not bad. In summary this is how its like:
- 1/3 in G5 (US, UK, France, Germany, Japan), managed rather passively i.e. buy-and-hold, just aiming to mimic benchmark returns
- 2/3 in Asia Pacific Ex-Japan, managed more actively compared to its investments in G5 markets
- During market upswing it performs great, but during a crash it really crashes (ouch!)

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post Feb 18 2013, 09:38 AM

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Well, discipline is the key to investing...
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post Feb 18 2013, 11:42 AM

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Come on guys, pakai a bit of naughty imagination... rolleyes.gif

There is no lock-in period for RSP contracts with FSM. icon_idea.gif

Start RSP for Fund ABC now e.g. for RM100
15-Mar-2013 will buy in RM100 (date for all RSPs is 15th)
Immediately after that, terminate the RSP
Voila, u have made an Initial Investment for only RM100 brows.gif

Don't tell FSM people about this ph34r.gif

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QUOTE(jerrymax @ Feb 18 2013, 11:47 AM)
Does that work? Terminate RSP after initial investment of RM100.

How do I top-up after that? Using CMF for subsequent investment?
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After that u can just do like normal. Yeah it works, I did that. ph34r.gif

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 18 2013, 04:16 PM)
but i can enter anytime right? i mean i can subscribe RSP anytime.. but only renew at 15th monthly? ah i saw the thing said contract renew at nex month.. but my newcomer promotion until 28th feb only, which anything i invest is 1% sales charge, also for RSP. So if i apply RSP now, does the 1% still vaild when they issue contract on 15th march?
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All HwangIM funds not available for RSP Special, u can buy the HwangIM funds u want this month, leave the other funds for Ninja RSP next month icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(rachy @ Feb 18 2013, 05:33 PM)
hi all, just want to check is OSK-UOB Asian Income fund and Hwang Select Income Fund similar to each other and in the same category?

Thanks smile.gif
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Lipper classifies HSIF as MYR MIXED ASSETS CONSERVATIVE (max 30% in equities), whereas OUAIF as ASIA EX JAPAN BALANCED
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Got e-mail invitation for "Lou Sang" dinner for Silver/Gold investors rclxms.gif

Wong Seafood!!! U goin? wub.gif

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Feb 18 2013, 07:41 PM)
Want to, tapi ada more important thing scheduled - my video Skype with my wittle wittle girl  wub.gif
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But...but...I'm your wittle pinky spidey cry.gif
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post Feb 18 2013, 07:45 PM

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Who else got the invite?
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QUOTE(birdman13200 @ Feb 18 2013, 10:51 PM)
Pinky, thanks for this good method.

After I study thru, i got a question, does ur case fulfil "minimum holding" requirement, i saw some holding requirement is high and some is low.
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Yea I know there's this min. holding requirement, but I managed to pull it off last time hmm.gif
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QUOTE(rachy @ Feb 18 2013, 11:47 PM)
Pink, thanks for your reply! Would appreciate some advice from anyone here on my portfolio.

Currently I have:

Hwang Select Income Fund
OSK-UOB Asian Income Fund
Templeton Global Total Return Fund (Global Bond)

Am thinking of adding in Hwang Asia Quantum Fund, Pacific Global Stars, and

either AmAsia Pacific REITs OR AmGlobal Property Equities Fund (which one is better?)

Btw I already have local bond funds in PM.

Would appreciate advice on the funds I have picked or any other recommendation on other funds in order to have a diversified portfolio!

Thanks soo much!
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Sorry to say that I dunno much about funds not available on FSM platform blush.gif

U won't go wrong with Hwang AQF and Pacific GSF thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Hapeng @ Feb 19 2013, 09:11 AM)
not yet silver ar.. soon soon
u going? remember get some pics  rclxm9.gif
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FSM ClientHelp girls brows.gif
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I see last year dinner photos, mostly are aunties and uncles hmm.gif

I'm gonna be an odd one out Ah Boy among them sweat.gif
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Feb 19 2013, 10:43 AM)
fresh meat for the aunties tongue.gif

Anyhow, hmm.. anyone thinking of going ETF?
cost less upfront
running cost pa less
only pain = upfront transaction buys... in tens of thousands RM to be cost effective (ie. low % when calculating "transaction cost / value bought")
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=MGV#sym...urce=undefined;

Vanguard's ETFs:
MGV mega cap value ETF
VBR small cap value ETF

MGK mega cap growth ETF
VBK small cap growth ETF

VT world stocks ETF (as a baseline comparison)
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Had thought of CIMB China ETF.

Upfront fee expensive? Try Jupiter Securities, higher of 0.1% or RM10 only thumbup.gif

Vanguard ETFs? Mana boleh beli? blink.gif
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post Feb 19 2013, 11:18 AM

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Wong Seafood,

I thinking wanna diversify 1/4 of my portfolio for direct purchases of dividend stocks...u think now can buy? I'm buying to hold for dividends, not for trading.

Big caps like BAT and Guinness only yielding 4%+...my UT portfolio is giving IRR of 6.1%...macamlah tak worth it hmm.gif

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