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post Aug 1 2012, 09:11 PM

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www.marketwatch.com/story/its-about-time-to-buy-burnt-out-european-stocks-2012-08-01

It’s about time to buy burnt-out European stocks
Commentary: The best companies will survive the euro crisis


This is what I'm talking about nod.gif

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post Aug 1 2012, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 1 2012, 09:17 PM)
heheh - also gotta consider whether we can stay liquid longer OR the EU market irrational longer leh  sweat.gif
Unless just punting 5% or less of investable assets gua  notworthy.gif
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About 16% of my portfolio consist of global equity funds which overweight developed markets. Remove the EM/Asia exposure in them...that'll make it about 12% of my UT portfolio in US+Europe. flex.gif

The key takes from this are, firstly, dividend yields are very attractive. Secondly, valuations are near doomsday level. sweat.gif

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post Aug 1 2012, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 1 2012, 09:25 PM)
Cool - U'll be at the forefront for US & EU recovery.
Heheh - i've still ZERO exposure to US & EU, not on purpose, just lack focus tongue.gif
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If EU collapse brings about protracted global slowdown esp in Emerging Asia where all the demands lie, see that 12% shrink to oblivion. laugh.gif
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post Aug 1 2012, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 1 2012, 09:27 PM)
Not too late right?

Can consider some global exposure fund like EI Global Leaders or Pacific Global Stars.
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Please read the last few paragraphs of the article which I've linked here icon_idea.gif
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post Aug 1 2012, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 1 2012, 09:32 PM)
Can just give the summary straight to the point. laugh.gif
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Bulletpoint just for dear Dave wub.gif

* There are good global companies in Euro region, their sales and profit growth mainly overseas-driven (read - ASIA)
* Valuations are low currently
* No one can possibly correctly time the bottom

Armageddon scenario:
- EU collapse
- Banking collapse/freeze
- Stock Exchanges freeze

But those strong companies like FIAT, Salvatore Ferragamo etc wouldn't be harmed much.

Ending note - YOU THINK YOU CAN BUY THEIR SHARES AT SUCH TIME? Exchanges are probably frozen at that time. By the time stock trading resume...prices sudah fly up whistling.gif

Sekian, terima kasih laugh.gif
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post Aug 1 2012, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 1 2012, 09:51 PM)
Aiya, tak kan 12% become 0%, not direct stocks wor - basket cases tongue.gif

Anyhow, even if 12% really gone, aiya - your 88% still can easily make a recovery AND killing mar right?
U are a numbers guy, definitely something hedged or "counter-balanced" somewhere  brows.gif
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Collapse of Euro region equities will cause a flight of $$$ to bonds. And which region's bonds are attractive now? blush.gif
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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 1 2012, 09:57 PM)
ASEAN.
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Brazil sovereign 10 years bond yielding 9.5% brows.gif
Russian also similar...as long as gas prices remain on long-term uptrend, Russia gonna remain strong icon_idea.gif
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post Aug 1 2012, 10:38 PM

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Maby to control inflation? Brazilian bonds has always been around 10%+/- hmm.gif
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post Aug 1 2012, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 1 2012, 11:43 PM)
For those who interested with AmAsia Pacific REIT fund:

AmMutual open to more REIT buys

KUALA LUMPUR: AmMutual, which is positive on the Asia-Pacific real estate investment trusts (REITs) market, is keeping its options open on buying more REITs in the region, but much will depend, among others, on the liberalisation of a country's REITs regulation.

URL: http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...18&sec=business
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Just looked at its Fact Sheet...ridiculously good returns shocking.gif
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post Aug 2 2012, 07:51 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 2 2012, 07:43 AM)
That is what attracts. If not, I won't be keep on mentioning it since two to three weeks back. laugh.gif
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Ponzi alert - "if it's too good to be true, it's not true"

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Have u bought in? Cos I see its performance chart...look a bit "too fast, too early"... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 2 2012, 08:22 AM)
hehe - are U now convinced that REITs or REITs focused funds deserve a bit of your $ allocation? tongue.gif


Added on August 2, 2012, 8:24 am
$ is flowing into properties and dividend stocks - both of which are epitomized by REITs mar.
More demand = higher valuations.
Just make sure the areas that the fund is buying (REITs) into have good enough DY% for your taste.
Just a thought yar - U may have other additional criteria  notworthy.gif
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Sifu...saya tau salah ler cry.gif

Kena korek korek for DY info hmm.gif

Still, +20% in 1 year (capital + income)...macam sikit overbought sweat.gif
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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 2 2012, 08:50 AM)
I'm not greedy. If the fund can constantly stream an average annual return of 10% is sufficient. The more it could generate, that would be bonus.
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In this case, the "bonus" is already paid, u still want to buy? tongue.gif
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post Aug 2 2012, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 2 2012, 09:34 AM)
Ah.. the conundrum of how high is high & how low is low comes into play tongue.gif
Start with a 5 year plan lor - Value Cost Average or Dollar Cost Average or TwinVest it.

Anyone here remembers "people" telling them they are crazy to go into the market at end 2008 / early 2009?
"Market so lousy waffor"

Flash forward 2010
Anyone here remembers "people" telling them they are crazy to go into the market at 2010?
"This recovery's not real"

Flash forward 2011
Anyone here remembers "people" telling them they are crazy to go into the market at 2011?
"Market so high liao crazy ar"

Flash forward 2012
All time high for KLCI and generally REITs for SGX & KLSE (i only track those heheh sorry ar).
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Well said rclxms.gif

Wong Seafood, any idea on where to dig for Asian REITs data? notworthy.gif


Added on August 2, 2012, 10:05 am
QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Aug 2 2012, 07:46 AM)
Interested... You bought in already?
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I'm also interested...

Planning to structure my equity allocations this way:

25% global leading companies
25% global high dividend yield stocks
25% Emerging Markets
12.5% Asian REITs
12.5% Asia Ex-Japan small-mid caps


Now planning when to buy into the bottom 2 category icon_idea.gif

Currently
30% global leading companies
30% global high dividend yield stocks
40% Emerging Markets

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 2 2012, 10:35 AM)
er.. i dug only for SGX and KLSE hehe
http://reitdata.com/
http://mreit.reitdata.com/

er... subscription
cheap SGD7 pm only http://www.sharesinv.com/
http://www.equitiestracker.com.sg/
http://www.equitiestracker.com/

Currently having heck digging for ASX
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the Am fund that bro Dave digging now is heavy on Australia and Singapore

Lion City REITs...average also yielding 6.5% drool.gif

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 2 2012, 10:58 AM)
Tax free too!  drool.gif (we are non-resident mar)
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Ok, I'm getting in today rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(yck1987 @ Aug 2 2012, 12:31 PM)
same here  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Was waiting for my friend to activate his account so that I can get 1% SC coupon...but he was like taking forever to do it shakehead.gif

Nvm lar, I can buy at 1.75% SC, beza cuma RM7.50 tongue.gif
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Hwang Global Property only returned 8%+ during past 12 months, whereas AmAsia Pacific REIT 20%+ sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Aug 2 2012, 10:29 PM)
wah.. you make decision so fast!!! haha
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Last nite already read the fund prospectus... icon_idea.gif

...my favourite top performer in my portfolio which sadly is not (yet) on FSM platform, Hwang Select Income Fund, is also quite REIT-heavy, being a yield-focused fund. My FSM purchases has made its % in my portfolio shrunk to a mere 18%. doh.gif

AmAsia Pacific REITs fits the bill to bring my REIT exposure back up. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Macrusin @ Aug 2 2012, 10:41 PM)
Registered my FSM account last few days, Waiting for approval.

Currently I aim for Manulife Investment - Global Resources Fund & AmAsia Pacific REITs.

Can i ask for your view points on these fund that i listed out?
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Do u have other funds bought from other UT distributors? unsure.gif

Key tip - "Don't pick funds, build a portfolio" icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 2 2012, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(Macrusin @ Aug 2 2012, 10:52 PM)
No,I'm kinda new to UT.
50% of manulife equity fund & another 50% of AmAsia Pacific REITs.
Is that consider as portfolio as well??
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Well, there's no strict right or wrong here. tongue.gif

My advise, go explore FSM's website thoroughly first. icon_rolleyes.gif

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