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Kaka23
post Oct 19 2012, 11:09 AM


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iFAST Corp has two corporate shareholders. They are SPH AsiaOne Ltd, the Internet arm of Singapore Press Holdings, Singapore's largest media group, and DMG & Partners Securities Pte Ltd (51% owned by OSK Investment Bank Berhad and 49% owned by Deutsche Bank). In recent years, iFAST Corp has been expanding beyond local shores. In 2007, iFAST Corp launched its first overseas business, Fundsupermart in Hong Kong and in 2008, it launched Fundsupermart in Malaysia. Also in 2008, iFAST Corp entered into a joint venture agreement with Deutsche Bank's asset management division to expand its unit trust distribution business in India in the first half of 2009.

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I attended one of their talk in their office last month. So they email to those who attended!
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post Oct 19 2012, 01:40 PM


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Idea of the Week: The 3 Countries with the Highest Potential Upside

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=2834

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At current valuations (as of 17 October 2012), equity markets in North Asia are extremely cheaply priced. China’s equity market currently trades at a PE of 8.2X based on 2014’s earnings, potentially delivering a 23.2% compounded annual return until end 2014 should it revert to its fair PE level of 13.0X, making it one of the single countries with the highest potential upside under our coverage. South Korea (another country which also has the highest potential upside) and Hong Kong are cheaply valued as well, trading at 7.9X and 9.4X 2014’s earnings respectively and offer investors a compounded annual return of 23.3% and 21.9% respectively until end 2014 when compared to its fair level PEs of 12.5X and 14.5X respectively.
Sounds logical, but China seems taking forever to stop moving toward new lows, wonder when will the slump stop and the market move upward? hmm.gif

Who got the heart to buy and hold til it "normalise"? hmm.gif

And who got the conviction to have significant part of their portfolio in Asian/Emerging Market funds? hmm.gif

About 30% of my equity weighting is in GEM, how about yours? icon_idea.gif

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post Oct 19 2012, 10:34 PM


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Will FSM send hard copies of annual or semi annual report for the funds that we invest from them? Or we ned to download from their website..
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Oct 19 2012, 11:09 AM)
I attended one of their talk in their office last month. So they email to those who attended!
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I've actually taken note of that one. Bear in mind they mentioned they have 2 corporate shareholder but not mentioned how much is their shares. 1 share is also a shareholder just like I'm also a shareholder of Genting because I own 500 shares. I may sound like I'm being flippant but just be cautious of statements which are made by these chaps especially when they are unwilling to reveal further when questioned. iFast may well be as solid as a Rock but my point here is be wary of the risks especially when you are investing your hard earned money. Good luck!
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post Oct 23 2012, 09:34 AM


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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 19 2012, 01:40 PM)
Idea of the Week: The 3 Countries with the Highest Potential Upside

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=2834
Sounds logical, but China seems taking forever to stop moving toward new lows, wonder when will the slump stop and the market move upward? hmm.gif

Who got the heart to buy and hold til it "normalise"? hmm.gif

And who got the conviction to have significant part of their portfolio in Asian/Emerging Market funds? hmm.gif

About 30% of my equity weighting is in GEM, how about yours? icon_idea.gif
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I already bought some china-hong kong fund last week. Public far east select fund. It is indeed cheap near to 2008 level. You never know the bottom, but you know when it is cheap. laugh.gif
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I already bought some china-hong kong fund last week. Public far east select fund. It is indeed cheap near to 2008 level. You never know the bottom, but you know when it is cheap.  laugh.gif
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GEM equity funds still moving sideways, good for averaging down ur cost if ur holdings still making a loss. nod.gif
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GEM equity funds still moving sideways, good for averaging down ur cost if ur holdings still making a loss. nod.gif
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I bought a little 3 months ago. But last week i bought again. So currently china hold about 10% of my PM portfolio though. Up 4-5% but could be wiped out if volatality strike again. That time can do average down. Do take note in November 8th, the china will rechedule their party for the next decade governance. Lets see who will be in charged and how is their policy.

You got buy any china related funds?
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I bought a little 3 months ago. But last week i bought again. So currently china hold about 10% of my PM portfolio though. Up 4-5% but could be wiped out if volatality strike again. That time can do average down. Do take note in November 8th, the china will rechedule their party for the next decade governance. Lets see who will be in charged and how is their policy.

You got buy any china related funds?
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China-specific fund, no. I got exposure to China thru a GEM equity fund, which has 20%+ exposure to China/HK.
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Managed to transfer in OSK fund to FSM. Process takes like 40days until it is reflected in my FSM account.
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Anyone go into the New Am Tactical Fund? 1.5% sales charge...Zzz...stil amdynamic better ....
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Anyone go into the New Am Tactical Fund? 1.5% sales charge...Zzz...stil amdynamic better ....
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if the return is similar with amdynamic bond, i think still better than many bonds

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Anyone go into the New Am Tactical Fund? 1.5% sales charge...Zzz...stil amdynamic better ....
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Do your math...

AmDynamic 0% SC BUT 1% exit fee
At 8% p.a. IRR, 3 years later RM100 becomes RM125.97
U sell, u only get RM125.97 x (1-0.01) = RM124.71

AmTactical 1.5% SC, so if u pay RM100 u only invest RM98.52
Assuming similar IRR as AmDynamic (8% p.a.), 3 years later RM98.52 becomes RM124.11

The longer u stay invested, the higher the exit fee will be, but the upfront sales charge u incurred will never change.

Don't tell me u invest for 3 years or lesser...
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post Nov 1 2012, 06:14 PM


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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 1 2012, 05:50 PM)
Do your math...

AmDynamic 0% SC BUT 1% exit fee
At 8% p.a. IRR, 3 years later RM100 becomes RM125.97
U sell, u only get RM125.97 x (1-0.01) = RM124.71

AmTactical 1.5% SC, so if u pay RM100 u only invest RM98.52
Assuming similar IRR as AmDynamic (8% p.a.), 3 years later RM98.52 becomes RM124.11

The longer u stay invested, the higher the exit fee will be, but the upfront sales charge u incurred will never change.

Don't tell me u invest for 3 years or lesser...
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The amtactical funds will have higher charge, if u simulate 1% entry for amtactical, u will get the same result as 1% exit charge for amdynamic
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AmTactical is charged upfront, 1.5% based on your entry cost

But with AmDynamic EXIT FEE, the longer u stay invested, the higher the exit fee will be in Ringgit terms.
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 1 2012, 06:18 PM)
AmTactical is charged upfront, 1.5% based on your entry cost

But with AmDynamic EXIT FEE, the longer u stay invested, the higher the exit fee will be in Ringgit terms.
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Errm.. assuming you invest RM1000 in fund, given 2 scenario, first is 1% initial charge, another is 1% exit fees. both with 8% annualized return.

First scenario, 1% Exit fees

Initial investment: RM1000
First year : RM1080
Second year : RM1166.40
Third year : RM1259.712

If u cash out on first year, RM1080*0.99=RM1069.20
If u cash out on second year, RM1166.40*0.99=RM1154.74
If u cash out on third year, RM1259.72*0.99=RM1247.12


Second scenario, 1% Initial fees

Initial investment: RM990 (RM10 for sales charge)
First year : RM1069.20
Second year : RM1154.74
Third year : RM1247.12

Therefore, both of the scenario you will get the same result. The difference is charge later, so that you have more money in book? tongue.gif

In conclusion, the amtactical charge will be higher than amdynamic. Hope my calculation is correct.
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Ooo...both have the point.. the problem is, I never exit..so i forgot the exit fee is the longer the higher...My objective of investment is anythg more thn 4% return after deduct cost of investment and lower risk the better..lolx

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So anybody is considering for AmTactical fund?
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Will consider only after seeing their 1 yr performance vs AmDynamic Bond. tongue.gif
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Support fsmto force all other bank lower their fees


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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Nov 1 2012, 02:26 PM)
Managed to transfer in OSK fund to FSM. Process takes like 40days until it is reflected in my FSM account.
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Wow so long!!

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QUOTE(wenching87 @ Nov 7 2012, 12:56 PM)
Support fsmto force all other bank lower their fees


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Wow so long!!
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Yea.. guess they have to contact few parties (OSK Invesment and UOB Bank). And it is hard for FSM to push them to work faster, slightly out of FSM power when the ball is on them.
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