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 Fundsupermart - Invest Globally and Profitably, Discussion on investment through FSM

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SUSPink Spider
post Oct 2 2012, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Oct 1 2012, 09:16 PM)
how the UOB cash management fund work?

I buy CMF with 0% sales charge.

then every month i do standing order to sell my CMF to purchase other UT.

Is sell CMF have charges?
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post Oct 3 2012, 08:30 AM

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anybody know anything about the T+4 for purchasing from FSM ?

eg payment settled on 1 oct, then i receive and email saying t+4

so my purchase price would be on 1 oct but it takes t+4 to reflect on my account ?
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post Oct 3 2012, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Oct 3 2012, 08:30 AM)
anybody know anything about the T+4 for purchasing from FSM ?

eg payment settled on 1 oct, then i receive and email saying t+4

so my purchase price would be on 1 oct but it takes t+4 to reflect on my account ?
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post Oct 4 2012, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 3 2012, 09:18 AM)
Yes u r right
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u guys use DCA approach ?
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post Oct 4 2012, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(moon yuen @ Oct 4 2012, 11:16 PM)
u guys use DCA approach ?
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No I don't, I prefer to do monthly review and then only decide which fund(s) to top up and top up by how much
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post Oct 5 2012, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 4 2012, 11:34 PM)
No I don't, I prefer to do monthly review and then only decide which fund(s) to top up and top up by how much
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but, DCA commision cheaper, right ?

and MIND to share what ur review ? Ur approach ??
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post Oct 5 2012, 07:48 AM

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QUOTE(moon yuen @ Oct 5 2012, 12:02 AM)
but, DCA commision cheaper, right ?

and MIND to share what ur review ? Ur approach ??
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Sales Charge whether DCA or normal purchase is same la doh.gif

My approach? Too long-winded to share here sweat.gif
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post Oct 5 2012, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(izzudrecoba @ Sep 22 2012, 12:54 AM)
Hi Kenanga Growth Fund investors,

Anyone here coming to dine with Fund Manager: Chen Fan Fai of Kenanga Investors Berhad next Thursday @FSM Office?
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So did you go? Any insider tips.. hehe
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post Oct 5 2012, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 5 2012, 07:48 AM)
Sales Charge whether DCA or normal purchase is same la doh.gif

My approach? Too long-winded to share here sweat.gif
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IF NOT WRONG, they offer 1% sales charge to DCA method.... eg. every 10th of the month, u pump RM 200 in their fund.
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post Oct 5 2012, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(moon yuen @ Oct 5 2012, 11:05 AM)
IF NOT WRONG, they offer 1% sales charge to DCA method.... eg. every 10th of the month, u pump RM 200 in their fund.
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correction:
- 15th of each month
- sames Sales Charge, no diskaun (except for new akaun holders)
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post Oct 6 2012, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Oct 5 2012, 10:30 AM)
So did you go? Any insider tips.. hehe
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Hi Kaka23,

Apologize as I was outstation to Pasir Gudang on the said date. Sad cry.gif
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post Oct 6 2012, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(izzudrecoba @ Oct 6 2012, 10:37 AM)
Hi Kaka23,

Apologize as I was outstation to Pasir Gudang on the said date. Sad  cry.gif
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no worries bro...
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post Oct 6 2012, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Oct 6 2012, 11:49 AM)
no worries bro...
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Kaka bro

u investing for long-term capital growth, or with income in mind?

Bcos FSM dun give cash dividends (all dividends are reinvested), I wonder those who invest with income in mind, how they do? Every now and then sell from their unit holdings? hmm.gif

What I plan to do is, one day when my portfolio as a whole is growing at a rate equal to my monthly top-up amount, I will stop topping up and use the cash.

E.g.
my monthly top up = RM500
my portfolio is growing RM6,000 p.a. (average RM500 a month)
I will stop topping up, use/invest the RM500 excess cash I have every month elsewhere

RM6,000/5%=RM120,000

Ok, at growth rate of 5% p.a., I need a portfolio of RM120K to achieve +RM500 a month sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 6 2012, 12:56 PM)
Kaka bro

u investing for long-term capital growth, or with income in mind?

Bcos FSM dun give cash dividends (all dividends are reinvested), I wonder those who invest with income in mind, how they do? Every now and then sell from their unit holdings? hmm.gif

What I plan to do is, one day when my portfolio as a whole is growing at a rate equal to my monthly top-up amount, I will stop topping up and use the cash.

E.g.
my monthly top up = RM500
my portfolio is growing RM6,000 p.a. (average RM500 a month)
I will stop topping up, use/invest the RM500 excess cash I have every month elsewhere

RM6,000/5%=RM120,000

Ok, at growth rate of 5% p.a., I need a portfolio of RM120K to achieve +RM500 a month sweat.gif
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Pinky bro,

I always prefer to invest in funds that give dividends (income). At this point of time or in near future, these dividends I would want to reinvest (this is what FSM is doing). Well.. maybe you will say there may be no meaning by giving dividends in UT... haha

My target, when I am retired or near my retiring age (if I want to retire early), I can use this dividends.

It may be just me.. When I want to buy UT, one of my screening criteria is also to look at the NAV price. Lower NAV, I will consider. Higher NAV (capital growth funds), will always makes me think few times before going in. Example, the growth fund lets say been in the market for 5 - 6 yrs, and nAV is like 1.00 (from initial 0.50).

I am no pro.. just my thinking as I dont have much sharing of experience or chit chatting with ppl with finance UT knowledge. That is why I am here in LYN.. haha



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post Oct 6 2012, 12:25 PM

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Which fund in FSM will give out distribution only (i.e. not reinvested) ?
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post Oct 6 2012, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Oct 6 2012, 12:25 PM)
Which fund in FSM will give out distribution only (i.e. not reinvested) ?
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FSM got no option to receive distribution by cash, all are reinvested into investors' account.

E.g. AmDynamic Bond distribute dividend, all are reinvested. If u want to receive the cash, u may want to sell the units yourself.

For example 5 sen per unit, and u hold 100,000 units, so u will get 100,000 x RM0.05=RM5,000 dividends

Assuming reinvestment price is RM0.6000, u will get RM5,000/RM0.6000=8333.33 units

So, if u prefer to receive CASH dividends, just sell the 8,333.33 units as soon as it is credited to you wink.gif


Added on October 6, 2012, 12:34 pm
QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Oct 6 2012, 12:13 PM)
Pinky bro,

I always prefer to invest in funds that give dividends (income). At this point of time or in near future, these dividends I would want to reinvest (this is what FSM is doing). Well.. maybe you will say there may be no meaning by giving dividends in UT... haha

My target, when I am  retired or near my retiring age (if I want to retire early), I can use this dividends.

It may be just me.. When I want to buy UT, one of my screening criteria is also to look at the NAV price. Lower NAV, I will consider. Higher NAV (capital growth funds), will always makes me think few times before going in. Example, the growth fund lets say been in the market for 5 - 6 yrs, and nAV is like 1.00 (from initial 0.50).

I am no pro.. just my thinking as I dont have much sharing of experience or chit chatting with ppl with finance UT knowledge. That is why I am here in LYN.. haha
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Kaka...

With FSM, whether the fund distributes dividend or not makes no difference to us, cos all are reinvested. doh.gif

^ Refer my reply to Ronnie above

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Oct 6 2012, 12:34 PM
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post Oct 6 2012, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Oct 6 2012, 12:13 PM)
Pinky bro,

I always prefer to invest in funds that give dividends (income). At this point of time or in near future, these dividends I would want to reinvest (this is what FSM is doing). Well.. maybe you will say there may be no meaning by giving dividends in UT... haha

My target, when I am  retired or near my retiring age (if I want to retire early), I can use this dividends.

It may be just me.. When I want to buy UT, one of my screening criteria is also to look at the NAV price. Lower NAV, I will consider. Higher NAV (capital growth funds), will always makes me think few times before going in. Example, the growth fund lets say been in the market for 5 - 6 yrs, and nAV is like 1.00 (from initial 0.50).

I am no pro.. just my thinking as I dont have much sharing of experience or chit chatting with ppl with finance UT knowledge. That is why I am here in LYN.. haha
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Investors should never judge if a fund is cheap or expensive based on its fund price. Instead, investors should be aware of the valuations of the underlying markets which the fund invests in. When market fundamentals (such as attractive estimated PE ratios and strong earnings growth) and economic outlook are both supportive, it still makes good sense to invest in a fund even though its unit price is high.

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=2288
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post Oct 6 2012, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(izzudrecoba @ Oct 6 2012, 01:48 PM)
Investors should never judge if a fund is cheap or expensive based on its fund price. Instead, investors should be aware of the valuations of the underlying markets which the fund invests in. When market fundamentals (such as attractive estimated PE ratios and strong earnings growth) and economic outlook are both supportive, it still makes good sense to invest in a fund even though its unit price is high.

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=2288
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post Oct 8 2012, 06:13 PM

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The Fundsupermarket Singapore really interesting, the first two india fund give return of 22% and 17% within one month...crazy..
I want to Slowly move out my cash investment in Fundsupermarket MYR to Singapor
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post Oct 13 2012, 03:49 PM

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http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=2812

Sales charge discount promotion for 4 funds..

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