LoL.

The police can only do so much. This isn't a problem in Malaysia exclusively.

There are gangs in Kingston, Jamaica who constantly modify and produce their own weapons. Kingston is a tourism spot yet gangs are running rampant.

In the USA, you have the MS-13 a sub-division of The mexican Mafia. Then you have the crypts. You have the Latin Kings. The Whiteboys and alot more.

Then there are polish gangs in Poland. They'd bash you up just because of your skin tone. The same with gangs in russia. That is why those who travel to study in russia can only stick to certain places. Even the immigrants who works there are in constant danger.

You have the skinheads in England.

There are tons of gangs all over the world. The police can fight them but you guys should know that these gang members are like maggots. You take away one, and two more would join.

Not everyone are living comfortably. Some have to struggle so much so for a piece of bread.

Btw, calling them gangs is a disgrace. They're no more gangs. They're all organizations. The one you see on the streets are what we call, the "foot-soldiers". Then the slightly fancier ones that you see are their leaders. The ones that you don't see are the big bosses. They're the CEO of the whole organizations. It would be almost difficult to convict them or bring them down because of their status, being prominent businessmen with hundreds of legit startups to cover their illegal activities.

What the police are doing is cleaning the "bottom-line". This is a cycle that would never stop. Their only way to shut down this organization is to start from the top. Unfortunately, as we all know, whoever is on the top, has bigger powers to his name. So immunity is his.

Stop commenting about why the police aren't doing their jobs etc. It isn't as simple as you think.

If the police were to do their job and start convicting these gang members, do you think they're going sit down there and cry in silence waiting to be the next one? This is their rice-bowl. They will surely retaliate. And how do you guys think they're going to do that? By gunning down the officers? No way. They'll go for the public first as a warning to the officers. Just look at the drug situation in Mexico. Members of the public are being harmed left and right because of a hasty decision made by their prime minister to eliminate all the gangs. He didn't succeed and eventually these gangs rose up and started being a threat to the public.

The American Government isn't that stupid to have invested their money in producing their own version of gang intelligence units and to put a research into this. Don't just expect to get rid of them just by going around and killing the members. Same concept applies : Walk into a lions den and start killing one of them. No matter how brutal its death is, the rest of the pack are going to tear you to bits, not run away with their tails between their legs.

lol. Perhaps one day , when i have more data / knowledge.

Anyways, another reason why the police cannot just gun these people down is because of fear. Yes, true if a high-ranking officer were to give his orders, then they can all march up to these gangs and kill / shoot them. The government can even send their army to end this. However, they can do this to the small tier gangs. You know the "small-timers". The gangs that you hear about, as mentioned are organizations. Believe it or not, they have their own intelligence unit. Within minutes, they can gather all your family data, more easier the more prominent you are. Then your whole family would be at risk. Your life would be at risk. Would you really want to risk all of that? Especially your own family? Watching them die would be painful. You would have to worry about your son whom you sent to school , your daughter, your wife who goes out to the market, and your self. You could be assassinated. Anything can happen.

As they say, everyone wants to protect their own backs. If they have nothing to lose, they'll take every risk imaginable. If they have a lot on their backs, then its better to not put your fingers into the lions cage.

Thats why people can modify their cars as much as they want over there. This is from what i've heard. Windows fully darkened as well.

So is it true then?

Because i have seen cars for sale on mudah, specifically from Labuan which have been modified extensively.

Then I've seen a few kembaras on a kembara forum, which users have modified their cars to even sweep the ground, per say. The cars are so low, i don't know how they would be able to go through road bumps or pot holes. Then there are special bodykits added to these rides. And yes, they're from east malaysia. They aren't show cars mind you, but everyday driven cars.

The possibility is there. Moreover, this sort of possibility seems to be a common understanding / assumption between Malaysians. Like anything else, there will always be the bad apples. It can either be a police officer gone astray or a police officer who is a gang member long before joining the force and joined the force to help "upgrade" his gang. Don't shut down such a possibility as this has happened. An example would be the gang MS-13. They sent some of their members to the US Army and the US Army enlisted them. They got their training and they learned all sorts of strategies ranging from weapon usage, combat , defense and so on. Once their service with the Army is over, they return to their own gang and would start training their fellow members. This makes the gang even more deadlier than before.

There is once a case of a Navy officer if i am not mistaken who is part of the gang MS13. He was around 2x years of age and was doing very well in the navy. One day he decided to rob a liquor store. Armed with a shotgun, he entered into the store and did what he was there for. He didn't run away after that though. He came out of the store and hung at the side of the store. Moments later a police officer arrived to arrest this guy. A gun fight ensued. You should see the CCTV footage. The way this guy rolled , duck and all to avoid the gunfire was amazing. Finally, the police officer was killed. Another police officer arrived and was shot at immediately thus injuring him. The SWAT team was called in. They arrived moments later and the suspect escaped but was later captured hiding under the bushes.

Anyways, my point is, gangs aren't like what we think during our schooling days. They are smarter now. They can send their members to join the police force or even the army to extract information. Yes, they can also pay a police officer to give out any information. The police officer can choose to accept the money or choose to go against them. Even by saying no, his face would be placed on their wanted list.

If you google "Sibu Gangster" you will find an article about some gangsters throwing a Molotov grenade at a car of a police officer. They wanted to simply challange him. If they can do that, imagine what they'll do when you say no?

Like the saying goes, if you cannot fight them, join them. Nothing is full proof. The American government formed a special ops team to deal with the drugs smuggling over at Mexico. These guys were all highly trained. Now, the biggest drug related gang/organization in Mexico consist of these members from the OPS team.

This post has been edited by kembar4: Jan 5 2012, 12:57 PM