The car has not been launched yet in Malaysia. What are u expecting? If u wanna know details about the car then google it up and get reviews from other countries. But for now, discussions will be mostly general until we get more details about the car. Understand?

Let me answer you professionally:

1) No salesman comes on Lowyat with no intent to cari makan. If that wasnt your original purpose then u shouldnt have accepted bookings from members rite? You used reverse phychology which u knew would work. Ppl will be more inclined to place bookings with familiar salesmen. In this case, u were a familiar figure although many havent met you yet. So indirectly, through you efforts on lyn, you got bookings. No point denying it. There is no wrong is doing so but to go around proclaiming that you didnt have any intent to cari makan is wrong and inethical.

2) How many salesmen actually get paid for pre-launch bookings? I know of certain car makes that only pay commissions for confirmed sales. So u getting 200 is a big issue and you know darn well that the chances of securing a confirmed sale from a pre-launch booking is far higher than a random walk in customer. So dont make it look like ure doing charity here.

3) You say you went back and forth to SD to try and voice our greviences and you claimed it to be some form of favor u were doing us. But the main reason u did that was to get information yourself because this could be the same questions ull get asked during the launch and after that and u want to be in a position to answer them. It would also be in your best interests to have the car priced lower and competitively as it would boost your chances of securing sales. Again, nothing wrong in that but going around trying to make it look like u were doing us a favor isnt right either.

3) Fine u say Hyundai makes better cars compared to Kia if u take away all the gadgets. Does it also make better cars compared to Toyota & Honda? You say T&H are charging extra for an ancient but perfected technology. So what gave Hyundai the right to price their cars in the same bracket? Do they have some proven tech which has kept users happy for the past 30 years as T&H have? Btw, you gauging the better build of Hyundai cars based on a brake peddle sensor? I thought u were comparing the quality of stripped down versions of both cars minus the gadgets? So how is Hyundai better than Kia without all the gadgets?

4) In 1 post you mentioned Hyundai can't price cars lower cuz of their profit margins rite? But i ask you this question: Who sets profit margins and how are they calculated? The main driving factor behind profit margins are operational costs. So are you telling me the operational costs of developing Hyundai cars is more than 15% of Kia? Since both are sister companies and share the similar tech in some areas, how then can their profit margins differ by that much? Hyundai is considered a 'premium' brand compared to Kia rite? If so why is the Elantra priced similar to Forte in other countries? U mean to say in Malaysia, the profit margins are changed? Operational costs different? If your reasons are because of some insider happenings in Naza then stick to that reason alone. Pointless trying to justify this using the 'premium brand' tagline.

Finally, nobody was bashing you here. If ure in the sales line you would have to accept that u will get supporters and those doubters. If u arent prepared to deal with each one of them professionally, then ure obviously in the wrong line of work. The fact that u keep whining about those who dont follow your line of thought speaks volumes about your profesional approach towards handling customers. Im sure Hyundai being a so called 'premium brand' would give its sales ppl sufficient training on this right?

Anyway, all in all i think ure a decent guy. But u need to keep you emotions in check and not allow a barrage of comments to rattle you. Bear in mind, that none of us would waste our time contributing to this thread if we werent seriously interested in the Elantra. Many of us here agree that the Koreans deserve a chance to prove themselves against the mighty Japanese. We wouldnt bother to comment on something we dont care about would we? Most of us here are professionals and as intellectual ppl we will question and critisize what deserves doubt or critisism. Convincing an existing Korean supporter is only a fraction compared to convincing a Jap supporter (like me) and many of us actually used to like the Japs. Your task (if you choose to accept it) would be to answer us professionally. If you cant, then you might need to reconsider your involvement in this thread. But dont slam the very people who are actually supporters of the Korean revolution.

Cheers!

expected price = 115k (previous rumours)
hoping price = below 110k for full spec 1.8
unpleasant surprise = more than 115k or perhaps 120k for fullspec     

if that's true, hopefully nobody bother to buy this car so that at least give some slap to Sime Darby....

deep in my heart, hoping Naza will get to become Hyundai's distributor here in Malaysia...they might have sucks service but at least they got better pricing (proven with the likes those peugeot cars, Forte etc)....But, this one not going to happen