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post Dec 31 2011, 10:10 AM

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no need to buy assets lo...
the moment your friend buys then just be prepared to be clamp down lo...
Currylaksa
post Dec 31 2011, 10:11 AM

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Normally PCB deduct most of it liao.

At worst he kena some penalty, thats it
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post Dec 31 2011, 10:14 AM

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Got one noob question here. At my hometown here almost every villager (bumi race) are involve in oil palm plantation and earn min around 10k ++ to 80k++ per month - not every but almost 70 % . And do not declare tax of their income. So will they kena tax or not ( using bumi plantation license ) ? since they buy so many car and house. hmm.gif .
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post Dec 31 2011, 10:15 AM

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The PCB deduction may sometime be inadequate and thus it is not safe to assume that just because PCB has been deducted you no need to declare.

The IRB is interested as to whether you may have other income.
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post Dec 31 2011, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(makky @ Dec 31 2011, 10:14 AM)
Got one noob question here. At my hometown here almost every villager (bumi race) are involve in oil palm plantation and earn min around 10k ++ to 80k++ per month - not every but almost 70 % . And do not declare tax of their income. So will they kena tax or not ( using bumi plantation license ) ? since they buy so many car and house.  hmm.gif  .
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LHDN won't chase if they are bumi
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post Dec 31 2011, 10:20 AM

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they will come audit you.

not a pleasant experience.
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post Dec 31 2011, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(makky @ Dec 31 2011, 10:14 AM)
Got one noob question here. At my hometown here almost every villager (bumi race) are involve in oil palm plantation and earn min around 10k ++ to 80k++ per month - not every but almost 70 % . And do not declare tax of their income. So will they kena tax or not ( using bumi plantation license ) ? since they buy so many car and house.  hmm.gif  .
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Dec 31 2011, 10:17 AM)
LHDN won't chase if they are bumi
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bumi are tax exempted.

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post Dec 31 2011, 10:21 AM

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24%? dafuq, really holyshit... i kenot brain the salary of u guys... cry.gif
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post Dec 31 2011, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(stimix @ Dec 31 2011, 08:59 AM)
Why they need to chase? They already partially got the tax liao..only waiting for your fren to declare. once he declare, he will kena penalty for sure I think 15% ontop of the chargeable income. in addition to whatever rate he kena.
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penalty for late tax not declared and payable is a whopping extra 45% on top of everything.
i speak from experience.


i'm a poorfag btw.
kena audit bcos 2" jelly i sold 100+ copies of sc2.

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post Dec 31 2011, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(cranx @ Dec 31 2011, 08:52 AM)
my colleague 31yo earning around RM8.5k he said never declare cause monthly payslip company already deduct.
so income tax people will not come looking for him. is this true?
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Tax evasion is very serious offence in Malaysia. If get caught your friend might get penalty and have to pay double amount of the total taxable sum that he/she has not paid.

Btw, tell your friend to brieftly read the tax evasion law at LHDN website.
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post Dec 31 2011, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Dec 31 2011, 10:22 AM)
penalty for late tax not declared and payable is a whopping extra 45% on top of everything.
i speak from experience.
i'm a poorfag btw.
kena audit bcos 2" jelly i sold 100+ copies of sc2.
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than what happen?
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post Dec 31 2011, 10:26 AM

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Must declare .. even u declare .. gomen still come and ask for more
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post Dec 31 2011, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(DayahKuComeL @ Dec 31 2011, 10:25 AM)
than what happen?
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they tried to bill me for late taxes not paid inclusive penalty about RM1.3k

then i appeal, submit in receipts etc, purchasing invoices etc.
paid about RM600 in the end to settle the case.

yes, i'm a poorfag, but they still wanna audit me.
i cannot brain.



at least can sleep nicely for a while until they decide to hound me again.
just a matter of time.

if they audited you once. they will do it again.



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post Dec 31 2011, 10:32 AM

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u dont pay..they LHDN bar from going oversea..My mum already kena la becoz she sell one of the house plot.. luckily they bar her after she back for Mekah..

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post Dec 31 2011, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(DX007 @ Dec 31 2011, 09:33 AM)
hi newbies here...been working part timely for more than a year....salary less than RM2.5k no need declare income tax right?  thanks first
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according to section 13(1)(a) . any salary that u received is taxable ..so if u r having a job , salary less than rm2.5k , u must declare ur income and the good thing is u dont have to pay tax! rclxm9.gif .. the rate u can check with IRB .. hehe..

correct me if im wrong tongue.gif
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post Dec 31 2011, 10:43 AM

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Well, most of the time you will get away with it.

Government dont really care much if you avoid as a serf

But once your net worth is more then RM5 million or so, then the government will DEFINITELY probe you.

For example, lets say you have a net worth of RM 5 million, the government will use your ammount tax, multiplied by a number (for example lets say u paid RM100,000, and effective tax rate should be 1/6th) , so Rm100,000 x 6 = RM600,000

So then they will deduct all the tax reliefs, lets say total tax relief is RM100,000

So RM700,000.

Then they will look at the difference

RM5 million minus RM700,000 = RM4,300,000

YOU will be sued for RM4,300,000 x 26% (max tax rate) by the tax department, if you cant proof that

1) Your income comes from TAX FREE sources (like ASB), your mum give, your dad give etc.
2) Your expenses comes from TAX DEDUCTABLE sources (like zakat).

If you cant prove it, they will fine you for RM1.3 mill
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post Dec 31 2011, 10:43 AM

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how about got declare .. but need to pay few hundred to LDHN .. if didnt pay for last year .. how much is the interest ?

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post Dec 31 2011, 10:53 AM

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last time i tried to submit in person when my pay <2.5k, the LHDN clerk chase me away coz they claim i am creating extra work for them when i obviously don need to pay taxes

good luck to ur fren.. i hope he has a paper trail to explain all the money n assets in hand now... if not when kena audit.. LHDN will really "wash" him clean clean tongue.gif
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Y U NO WANT PAY TAX?????? huehuehue
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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Dec 31 2011, 10:28 AM)
yes, i'm a poorfag, but they still wanna audit me.
i cannot brain.
at least can sleep nicely for a while until they decide to hound me again.
just a matter of time.

if they audited you once. they will do it again.
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Eh how did online earner like you kantoi when them, mang? I always thought you could keep all your pile of moneh online without them even knowing it

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