Not really lacking if u consider the Forte's engine..

Yes.. From the outlooks.. The built quality of the cabin and the well thought of designs.. I seriously like the car.. Normally a lot of cars feels very good with a lot of amenities in there, but one thing those engineers forgets to do is create a ppl's car.. They forget to sit in the car and think of the car in a passenger perspective.. Of what is needed and not needed.. Where is the suitable location of something like a cup holder etc..
E36 engine sound very the sweet.. Sounds gruntly and powerful.. But its an ugly car..
Hmm about that I think u need to take a step back and see the back picture..

When Mitsubishi lauched their new 4B11 engine.. They mentioned something that it was a global engine co designed with multiple companies.. First I didnt get it..
But now when u take a step back and look at all their new engines.. Every car ranging from Honda K20A, Mitsu 4B11, Hyundai and Kia Theta II, and several others, u cant help but notice that their block is largely the same. Bore and stroke are 86mm, creating a square engine balance for torque and HP creation..

Furthermore most of the extra technology employed are just valve lift and valve timing difference.. Basically all engines are almost the same except for the valvetrain employed by different companies. Honda K20A engines have a torque dip between the 3k-5.7k range b4 the Vtec opens up after that.. However for 4B11 engines the torque dip isnt there, however there is a slight drop in torque between 3-5k RPM as compared to torque at 3K RPM.. So on paper if the Lancer wasnt using a CVT Invecs-III gearbox and used a torque converter based trans, coupled with a lighter body, a Lancer GT most likely will outrun a FD2 in real life.

Now comes in the Kimchis.. Their engine despite having the same block and characteristics of the Sushis, are able to produce 10 more hp and the torque for the Kimchis and Mitsu are on par with each other, with Honda lagging behind.. and the kimchi engine actually pulls better than sushis cos the torque band does not dip after 3k rpm, but it continues upwards to almost full torque at 3.5k-5k RPM.. Pulling power if u are accelerating will definitely be more better than the other car..

So i believe on paper wise if the Kia and HyunaHyundai are having the same kerb weight as those sushi cars, then i believe we got some serious competition coming up soon..

Just checked, as for Toyota Altis 2.0V their peak torque is 188Nm@3600rpm.. Lower than a 4B11..

But doesnt comparing PE vs Forte 1.6 considering suicide? PE 4 speed vs Forte 6 speed gearbox, Forte has higher torque and HP too.. Eventhough a lot of ppl do say that the Forte 1.6 is underpowered, but that doesnt means it will lose to all 1.6 class vehicles..

As for K20A engines (http://asia.vtec.net/article/k20a/), yeah my bad.. I was comparing a K20A dyno run with the kimchis instead of a K20Z2 dyno run.. Now let me dig out a K20Z2 dyno run map first...

LOL.. Dont need to go view all the videos mah.. K-pop ones too big to download.. I need 20mbps Unifi ady..

hardisk banyak mahal now... 

ya.... i circle circle first... no siham or oyster to accompany durian eating then i go back home sleep sleep  old ppl like me need more rest if got nothing to cuci mata

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sure cheong the most.... hehhehe

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Added on January 7, 2012, 3:38 am

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