Wah lama not open new thread here .. Back to the origin
Need advice on building water-cooling
So far .. no exp
so .. what basic needed for it owh and i want gtx 570waterblock too .. and price please
not hardcore ocer but i like "cool" thinggy

ur in wrong thread..anyway..expect price to be 1k+ with gpu block

moved by moderator i guess .. as i mentioned .. long time no open new thread .. hee~

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Added on December 19, 2011, 10:02 pmcant be more details ?

This post has been edited by R3turn: Dec 19 2011, 10:02 PM

cpu loop cooling the least u can get is around rm600+ depends how much 'bling' u want...the gpu block i reckon it must be around 350-400+ ..so if u want to sink ur gpu..stronger pump and good radiator need to be mount

so roughly could easily cost u around 1k+

btw what casing are u using?

cm elite 431

http://store.apes.my/
go look at the website, alot WC stuff

I don't think you should waste time and resources doing WC on a 431

no biggy to change it .. but the cost of WC is a little more than i think
budget just around 500 to 600 .. beyond my expectation ..

This post has been edited by R3turn: Dec 22 2011, 12:37 AM

Hey guys which WC system is better? Custom build or after market ones? (Eg:H100). Can I use H100 to cool down my Proc, GPU and North Bridge? (Direct install, each one take one H100)
UPDATE: How bout this?
http://www.lelong.com.my/coolit-eco-l-c-ad...7-01-Sale-I.htm
Same as Corsair Hydro series cooler but its price are far more cheaper.
Can they be refill? Corsair Hydro Series and other aftermarket cooler.
And..Wow we can make full custom WC for just RM490?

This post has been edited by Lacus: Dec 22 2011, 11:25 PM

No, storm scout doesn't take 2 x 240mm. The cheapest and best CM casing for WC is the 690 Advanced II

H100 - RM470 +/-. When the pump dies, you throw the set away or salvage the parts
XSPC RS240/any custom kit RM490 onwards - When the pump dies, you change it out. Every single part can be changed out

I see...Btw I don't really believe those aftermarket WC ones...Looks not cool at all
Can give me a checklist what parts do I need in order to build a custom WC system? (CPU,GPU, North Bridge, HDD , RAM)

all u need is open ur side casing..with ur measuring tape or measuring instrument standby

sit beside ur desktop..imagine and visualize how u want to setup the wc kit..

usually check where are the place u want to mount the rad, reservoir and pump..

If your casing is small you may need to mount your rad outside of your casing, this is also know as External Rad. (Correct me if I'm wrong )

sound complicated .. -.-

@CyntrixTech Please recommend me for the best parts. (including balbs and the accesories) that is cost effective. Maybe I should consider giving up on RAM and HDD cooling.

cooling the cpu n gpu is enuf for most ppl,whats more now ram is coming out LP series on many brand.
can always mount the radiator outside the case with no modding,which is the biggest/longest part of a wc setup.look for radiator mount or bracket.

Cooling ram is a waste of money. It is extra hassle and makes the PC even more immobile than it already is. You can just get high performance pre-overclocked ram for the same amount of money put in the ram block, extra tubing, and extra fittings. G.Skill has all the rams you ever need, just depends on how deep your pocket is

u are trying too hard with the gskill sale man

if one fella watercool his/her pc chances are its not gonna be a portable one and they dont mind the "extra" hassle

The point is if you are buying a lower end ram and spending extra rm300-400 on the ram block+fitting to water cool them so that you can oc them higher, you are better off just putting the same amount of money on a higher end ram.

I know a lot of people are moving away from wc ram. Ask pptek how many ram blocks they'd sell and you'd know but to each his own.

lol

the block can only be fitted to just 1 type of ram and those ram is not cheap to begin with

and dealing with this kind of customers i knew that they are not the kind of people that mind spending another 400 just to watercool them

pptek eh

ram block is more of aesthetic purpose more than performance imo. i'd doubt ppl who can afford ram block don't have d moolah to get performance ram. to some ppl, watercools d ram would definitely "complete" their loop(s) & d looks of wc system as a whole.

is there any Water ram block for Gskill?

Koolance has two heatspreader+block that works with most rams. None of the gskill have removable heatskin like mushkin and corsair dominators

in order to use that koolance block u have to dismantle the heatsink if ur ram have any

and yeah that is not an easy thing to do

mite end up pullin d chip together with d heatspreader. nothing new thou.

I thought buying performance ram is just waste of money?

seriously, if u drive ferrari without sport rim, tat is call waste of money

OFF TOPIC:Btw sport rim doesn't help on car's performance. It only looks cool.

But I thought Sport Rim is lighter?

then u understand wrongly

im sorry

performance ram is there for a reason

That is what those guys in the hardware and questions forum are feeding you guys.

IMO if you OC Alot like those wan break record then Performance Ram is a MUST.

2cents only plz dun flame me...

Correction; that is what certain people are feeding others with . It's however highly dependent on how you interpret others' statements. I do admit though that there are many people who are simplifying things so much here to the point where Performance RAM is basically interpreted as a useless piece of sh*t.

Anyway, if those who wish to correct those who have been claiming that Performance RAMs do nothing good to systems, why don't you all just post your statement along with results and major improvements that could change the battlefield rather than claim that others are misunderstanding the usage and not bother adding any support in your post? As far as I can see them performance RAMs are pretty much best used when it comes to APU based systems and overclocking and not so much in other things.

This post has been edited by TDUEnthusiast: Dec 23 2011, 06:52 PM

from wc to ram ...so multipurpose this tered

imo,better to get a universal gpu block with heatsink,dont know if its cheaper than full block but most but not all ppl will change gpu within a year,they will be holding to a particular gpu wb withput any/rare potential buyer...

http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/shop/blocks/v...ion-acetal.html

got the looks too

I agree to the bold parts, besides if one like the fancy heat sink I'm sure some shops still sells them...

Correct me if I'm wrong

i bought performance ram becoz i used it for folding. lolx.

i can comfirm high speed ram is really benefit in point per wattage challenge. lolx

wow .. alot imput about WC .. ahh~
h/w qa guys told me only buy performance ram if you do overclock ..
and tht wht i suggest to ppl tht asking abt it o.o

I am sure those who pay for ram waterblock sure as heck don't use value ram
As for watercooling ram statement you make,i kind of agree
Too many hassle for too little performance gain
IMO,a set of fan kit like Corsair Dominator Airflow will do

Such an uneducated bold statement
When you replace your car wheel with aftermarket alternative from quality manufacturer such as Volk Racing,HRE or Works Wheel,chance are the wheel you change to is lighter
Lighter wheel bring a lot of benefit such as better acceleration,better fuel consumption,less stress on brake
Anyway,enough of this topic since this is OCU,not F&F

i know u talked alot about usage.
if my usage is overclocking, then really got major improvement with performance RAM.

if my usage is to read reviews and give recommendations, then ram, GC everything is not important, only internet connection will give a major improvement.

He is looking at the rams in the "functional perspective" for most users, and disregarding the rest:

i.e. A car is only needed to get from point A to point B, and most people would be fine with that, therefore proton/perodua is good enough. Anything more than that is a waste of money. Performance, aesthetic, ride feel, and etc are all thrown out of the window since those are not the core requirements for a car to get from point A to point B.

Looks like you don't understand what I'm talking about at all. I'm throwing out the performance aspect? I have been requesting for results that show that it does a great deal of change for gamers, yet you still fail to produce anything good. As mentioned already there are things that I'd get performance RAMs for or recommend them yet you seem to be oblivious to what I have wrote. The main thing those who ask for in the HW Q&A section is to get a system to play their games fine, not a system that looks good physically. What do you like doesn't mean it can be applied for others. Does everyone require a BMW like you to drive from Petaling Jaya to Kuala Lumpur? In this case since you want to use cars are a comparison, then lets just say that only the people who are willing to spend a lot more than usual can afford expensive cars ( Performance RAMs ) , while the ones who are looking to maximize the usage of their money spend less and get cheaper cars ( i.e Proton and Perodua ) and get something else instead e.g a bigger house ( better GPU ) as a better investment for their money.

Now disregard the rest since it's TLDR, but refer to my last sentence. How many people in the HW Q&A section have asked people to recommend them something and demanded for something they don't exactly require? For most of the time people are able to find better parts by sacrificing performance RAMs for that particular build, and do you still insist on getting them performance RAMs and toning down on the rest just because you want the system to look good and feel "complete" if that's the case? There are times where we do add in performance RAMs to builds, but those are the moments where we cannot find anything better to squeeze into the build anymore and there is money to spare.

We recommend based on what are the peoples' needs, not based on our own needs. And mind you, external visual modifications e.g bodykit on car are easy to spot as they're not covered by a large towering hunk of metal. How often would a user stare into his system anyway? With most of your recommendations done to the customer, how would the users of the Corsair 400R and 500R stare into their system without a transparent side panel?

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Short version :

1. We do not think that PRs are useless, just that we do not see a need for it in most things in our beloved section.
2. We'd recommend it if we see a need and there is money to spare.

This post has been edited by TDUEnthusiast: Dec 24 2011, 11:37 AM

Stop going off topic. Wanna argue please use the PM box instead. There is no need to post a paragraph of something that is off topic when the title mentions Watercooling. Thread temporary closed.

atleast i got extra input ..
#re-close

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Added on January 24, 2012, 10:43 pmre-open ..
what to fill if you have no distilled water ..
mineral water ? drinking water ? water from dispenser ?
or make own distilled water ?

This post has been edited by R3turn: Jan 24 2012, 10:43 PM