QUOTE(mat79 @ Dec 20 2011, 03:59 AM)
kadajawi, u can go to malaysian customs website for info n howmuch the tax n go to maa website to make it easy for u to understand the tax.
Basically for every car below 1800 in malaysia, they have to pay 75% excise duty n 10% sales duty including prtn n perodua. But for ckd, they have to pay extra 10% import duty while cbu have to pay 30% import duty.
For mpv between 1500cc to 1800cc, excise duty is 65% n sales tax is 10%. Cbu n ckd import tax is flat rate at 30% for cbu, 10% for ckd for any segment n any capacity engine according to customs n maa.
Fyi, avanza 1.3 paying less tax than our local alza n exora coz for 1500cc n below mpv, ckd import tax is waved n only pay for 60% for excise duty n 10% sales tax n yet they expensive, even have less 5% tax than our local.
Ckd only 10% higher tax than local, but the price,is higher. Can anyone justify vios will be the same price as persona if only pay 10% more tax than persona? For me, it just becoz of cif n also toyota want high profit.
Generally,all local cars need to pay 85% tax, while exora n alza paying 75% tax.
All ckds' just add 10% n cbus 30%. Thats why nowadays conti n korean are cars cheaper than japs in msia such as fiesta, forte, recently launch citroen c4 n etc coz they r just take normal profit margin n add all the taxes. U just think how civic 2.0 can be far expensive than cbu pug 308thp156 n citroen c4thp156 when the conti offer more equipment level n better pwrtrain dept than hondas even civic is ckd? Same as lancer gt 2.0 cbu versus civic 2.0 n altis 2.0(both ckd, suppose to pay 20% less tax) but get same pricing in malaysia.
So kadajawi, just go to website i mentioned before. So, 19% in germany oppose 85% tax on locals in malaysia, what do u think? So, how much is exora bold without tax? I leave it to u to do the calculation.
Added on December 20, 2011, 4:40 amand why toyota@daihatsu gave perodua rebadged passo sette@ luminas.
My opinion, 1st profit. Why profit coz will jeoperdize avanza sales? The question is how much avanza sales before n after the arrival of grandlivina n exora? So, fyi, and i believe everybody is well informed that sales of myvi in malaysia only already beat sales of sirion n passo in entire japan, can u imagine that, myvi sales is better than what they are getting from their own country. If u ask me where gets the fact, just google, if lazy, search in paultan, there is a special post on that.
Tyota own daihatsu, daihatsu has stakes in perodua. Not only daihatsu gain profit coz they r the shareholders, n u must know that this is rebadge exercise, so that perodua has to pay rebadged royalty as agreement. N the mother off all profit gainer, toyota coz they own daihatsu.
So, killing 2 birds in 1 stone ha..gain profit from alza n at the same time has extra bonus selling avanza since not rugi for toyota, even assemble avanza at perodua. Kira side bonus jelah, klu dia xkuar avanza, mgkin bkal pembeli avanza akn beli glivina@exora. Alang2,mkn sini,mkn sana.
That is how business minded think. The same thing happen to mitsu, lancer sales loose bad with civic,altis even fote. Cannot sell well, prtn want to rebadged, opportunity come, no need pening2 nak hantar kete cbu byk2 kat stok yard, dah kena bayo cif, so duk goyang kaki, dpt mkn royalti dr inspira..tp klu lancer top seller kat msia,jgn hrpler mitsu nk bg.
Added on December 20, 2011, 4:50 amif ford smax double the price of exora in msia, so meaning that, even compete with the same local tax apply to local cars, they r still expensive coz import duty only 30% from value of the car without tax. So, if smx cost u 160k, that is already including everything plus accesories,road tax, insurance n all insurance,profit dealer, so it supposed to be around 18k max( assuming value of the car 60k in malaysia before all the tax n dealer profit . Etc). So, 160k minus 18k, u got rm142k, which is still expesive than locals.this is same level playing fill condition where smax being tax the same as locals.
By the, the price of smax 160 just a sample coz somebody say before it price twice exora in msia,lazy to google for the price.
Basically for every car below 1800 in malaysia, they have to pay 75% excise duty n 10% sales duty including prtn n perodua. But for ckd, they have to pay extra 10% import duty while cbu have to pay 30% import duty.
For mpv between 1500cc to 1800cc, excise duty is 65% n sales tax is 10%. Cbu n ckd import tax is flat rate at 30% for cbu, 10% for ckd for any segment n any capacity engine according to customs n maa.
Fyi, avanza 1.3 paying less tax than our local alza n exora coz for 1500cc n below mpv, ckd import tax is waved n only pay for 60% for excise duty n 10% sales tax n yet they expensive, even have less 5% tax than our local.
Ckd only 10% higher tax than local, but the price,is higher. Can anyone justify vios will be the same price as persona if only pay 10% more tax than persona? For me, it just becoz of cif n also toyota want high profit.
Generally,all local cars need to pay 85% tax, while exora n alza paying 75% tax.
All ckds' just add 10% n cbus 30%. Thats why nowadays conti n korean are cars cheaper than japs in msia such as fiesta, forte, recently launch citroen c4 n etc coz they r just take normal profit margin n add all the taxes. U just think how civic 2.0 can be far expensive than cbu pug 308thp156 n citroen c4thp156 when the conti offer more equipment level n better pwrtrain dept than hondas even civic is ckd? Same as lancer gt 2.0 cbu versus civic 2.0 n altis 2.0(both ckd, suppose to pay 20% less tax) but get same pricing in malaysia.
So kadajawi, just go to website i mentioned before. So, 19% in germany oppose 85% tax on locals in malaysia, what do u think? So, how much is exora bold without tax? I leave it to u to do the calculation.
Added on December 20, 2011, 4:40 amand why toyota@daihatsu gave perodua rebadged passo sette@ luminas.
My opinion, 1st profit. Why profit coz will jeoperdize avanza sales? The question is how much avanza sales before n after the arrival of grandlivina n exora? So, fyi, and i believe everybody is well informed that sales of myvi in malaysia only already beat sales of sirion n passo in entire japan, can u imagine that, myvi sales is better than what they are getting from their own country. If u ask me where gets the fact, just google, if lazy, search in paultan, there is a special post on that.
Tyota own daihatsu, daihatsu has stakes in perodua. Not only daihatsu gain profit coz they r the shareholders, n u must know that this is rebadge exercise, so that perodua has to pay rebadged royalty as agreement. N the mother off all profit gainer, toyota coz they own daihatsu.
So, killing 2 birds in 1 stone ha..gain profit from alza n at the same time has extra bonus selling avanza since not rugi for toyota, even assemble avanza at perodua. Kira side bonus jelah, klu dia xkuar avanza, mgkin bkal pembeli avanza akn beli glivina@exora. Alang2,mkn sini,mkn sana.
That is how business minded think. The same thing happen to mitsu, lancer sales loose bad with civic,altis even fote. Cannot sell well, prtn want to rebadged, opportunity come, no need pening2 nak hantar kete cbu byk2 kat stok yard, dah kena bayo cif, so duk goyang kaki, dpt mkn royalti dr inspira..tp klu lancer top seller kat msia,jgn hrpler mitsu nk bg.
Added on December 20, 2011, 4:50 amif ford smax double the price of exora in msia, so meaning that, even compete with the same local tax apply to local cars, they r still expensive coz import duty only 30% from value of the car without tax. So, if smx cost u 160k, that is already including everything plus accesories,road tax, insurance n all insurance,profit dealer, so it supposed to be around 18k max( assuming value of the car 60k in malaysia before all the tax n dealer profit . Etc). So, 160k minus 18k, u got rm142k, which is still expesive than locals.this is same level playing fill condition where smax being tax the same as locals.
By the, the price of smax 160 just a sample coz somebody say before it price twice exora in msia,lazy to google for the price.
Dec 20 2011, 06:47 AM

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