During the Nestea's match, Naniwa threw the game and let Nestea win the match. He did that because that match is completely meaningless, basically a filler match.

So, what do you guys think about this? Is it justified for Naniwa to did that at the first place？

it is not right but some1 gotta do it...
ppl like stephano, nestea, idra, sjow, choya (rock paper scissors) etc been doing it just tat naniwa gets the hate cause he is naniwa who take things to the extreme...
i dont agree with removing his codeS seed but rather a fine or something...

naniwa will be a matyr as a lesson to all =p
i sitll love his play and hope this will motivate him further!

latest news . Naniwa remove form code S Jan 2012 . HIs slot will be replace by Sen !!@@

This post has been edited by nagflar: Dec 14 2011, 07:21 PM

draaaaaaaamaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I only can say, face problem. (yes indeed he got some face problem, a bit lan si look)

Well, it seems that Korean really hate Naniwa now. Their reactions are so extreme.

Its their culture... If one are being unmannered, will be hated to deep.

To people still wondering what was happening, watch this video..



Think Naniwa's ban was due to this rules.



This post has been edited by kEazYc: Dec 14 2011, 07:56 PM

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Wow...even the casters are pissed off with Naniwa...Seriously, wow.

he doesnt like GSL?? :/

Eventho the format were bullshit (yes it is), but how can you thrown up a LIVE MATCH just like this? He never think about how many people were watching it man.

But still, its great that it spice up the whole community, at least we get to see something interesting, dramas do happen in sport tho.

This post has been edited by kEazYc: Dec 14 2011, 09:15 PM

if you can understand chinese, the casters are pissed off with gomtv for wasting their time........and they tot nestea is pissed at gomtv too. lol

I fully support this move by GomTV. nuff said. Will sign their annual package soon

honestly i rather naniwa do this than giving us a 30 minutes borefest...
remember huk vs nestea? the pain of wathcing taht...
or stephano vs sjow (or something) where both try to lose so they dun meet sen..
or during dreamhack where the casters (day9 etc) complain how boring the match it since both players are totally out and dragging the game doing stupid stuffs...

IMO what ever the situation, the player should play the best as they can. They are pro and their job is to provide entertainment to audience. Even nothing on stake, people will satisfy watching the players do their best.

probe rush was entertaining.

Edit: http://esfiworld.com/sc2/news/naniwa-disqu...-gsl-jan-code-s

After reading that, I don't think what he did is correct but then playing that game in the first place was kinda pointless and just forces rubbing into the pain is just "meh".. I don't know.. I am the only one who thinks they community is overreacting?

In situations like this, I'ma gonna do what I usually do.. Sleep..

This post has been edited by yuvster: Dec 15 2011, 02:43 AM

naniwa should hire evofantasy to play on his place~ so that he doesnt need to waste some time to 7probe rush



This post has been edited by SiewKaiz: Dec 15 2011, 09:16 AM

no sportsmanship. deserve the punishment.

I wonder did Naniwa know that Kespa will even punish sc1 gamer for not typing gg properly?

Why would Kespa wants to do that to the players?

no tolerance for going outside the rules

i think he seriously trying to win the game by doing probe rush..
Should not punish him for that!

why didnt MC get things like this? it seems like their toleration against their own people is way better than against the foreigner

i dun think MC throw a game away...

Coca lost a game on purpose to Byun so he can have a 3rd game...
result: demoted from slayers A team, kick out of the team house, forfeit codeS spot...

u can say KR are having the 'savior phobia'

anyone realise naniwa is slimmer compared to a few months ago?lol

Ahaha..

I think Naniwa did that to piss Nestea off...

They had a big big agrro duirng the MLG recently....when Nani beat Nestea twice!!!!

meh nestea is overrated...
there are better zergs out there atm...

Ah...but to be honest Nani..sometimes takes thing to the edge..like calling Nestea idiot..which started the whole FUUUUU thing. Then Nani peeked at the replay when the game was reset..

Guess this time Nani just wanted to show Nestea..err..since you cant beat me ... let me pity you by probe rushing you....

Honestly, I think Nani is just being a prick this time. As the saying goes...what goes around...comes around

Whther the match has any bearing is not imporatant. What is paramount is that people pay to watch the games and being pros they at least shuold deliver some sort of entertainment lo... its like the premier league football. You cant pick a weak team to play against MC or MU or Ars...just because you know you cant beat them. You will get fines and docks points for doing so

Sorry yo..I am not with Nani this time...

This post has been edited by gladfly: Dec 15 2011, 03:41 PM

well if u watch the interview, he was refering to the strat nestea used...
and at MLG even after all that drama, they were chilling n laughing in the player's lounge...
drama is ok, jz cause he is naniwa and he did it to nestea he get hated...
MC throat slit idra, murlock suitted MVP and he is sitll loved...

i dun agree with him probe rushing, as he said he should jz 4 gate or something...
he did the extreme of what other players been doing for a long time (look in the examples in my previous post)...

basically what happen in EPL/ BPL is tat u have a regulated body to handle such issue...
which is why sc2 would require something equivalent...
as much as i dislike KESPA, sc2 need KESPA2.0

No. I mean, why punish the players for not typing "GG"?

GG is overrated.

probably cuz koreans dont know what is the meaning of gg cuz they are bad in english, literary it means good game, when u dont think the game is good, but going against yourself by typing it, it seems like some nazi dictatorship to me when ppl punish players like this, and i think naniwa is legitimately right cuz he has right as a player to throw game away since the system is quite messed up, but he is morally wrong by doing it. he should not be punished by the way of taking off his code S place but rather endure the humiliation by the viewers at his own accord

This post has been edited by pepsi89: Dec 15 2011, 07:08 PM

GOMTV's announcement regarding Naniwa

moral is serious business in korea. play in korea you gotta follow their rule.

I think you get me wrong, not just not typing gg, they are punish even wrongly type 'ww', 'g' or 'ggg' that we often see in SC2. SC2 "strict" have no where near SC1 at the moment.

lol this thing is overblown

both players lossed 3 matches each in their bracket.

both of them are eliminated from the tournement

why bother playing a serious game when the outcome gives nothing?

thats why asian parents still beat their children nowadays

seriously that game shuld never be played...
i agree with the chinese casters its just a waste of time

imagine u buy a football match ticket. go into the stadium . But both team have no intend to do thier best or even worst just want to lose and quick games .

how will u feel ?

For me, is ok at least no wasting time on watching a meaningless match... If drag game I will more mad on it.... My opinion la...

if u watch the entire series tat day, i dun mind naniwa throwing tat game away...
cause: -
1. pointless game
2. a better match is after that (polt vs mma)
3. the 3-way tie rematch between polt, mma and leenock

u get more than what u wish for when that 3 way tie happen

this analogy does not apply. i mean, it is not what u think. Would u watch Brazil vs Spain as a filler match during the opening of the World Cup? this is kinda how it is in the gsl. U make those players tired playing some meaningless games for no real reason. And worst still, this exposes the players' specific strategy for potential upcoming players to abuse their playstyle. If nestea and naniwa would not use their special tactics during those meaningless matches because they are afraid of ppl knowing and try to abuse their new strats, then they are being completely logical. Nestea was being completely illogical here and i think naniwa is right to call him an 'idiot' unless freedom of speech is restrained in korea. Nestea was bound by the unnecessary high standard of morality of korea since he is culturally attached to it. IMO, moral is quite a b**** becuz everyone, every country has their own moral standard and after all they dont mean anything because what is right to u, doesnt mean it is right to other person (sorry for being philosophical here).

this goes back to my favourite quote 'Respect must be earned, not demanded'. gsl is demanding the respect from those players even though they have some shitty system in the blizzcup but instead the gsl should earn the respect from the players by setting up a good system.

Well, u buy the tic for the whole season. u dont buy the tic for the filler match. imagine if u wanting to buy a house and it includes a doghouse for u, but in fact u hate dog, would u be complaining that the other houses that u are considering to buy do not include doghouses? somehow this reminds me malaysian cheapskate mentality hope everyone will change

This post has been edited by pepsi89: Dec 16 2011, 12:42 PM

you guys are crazy~~

bored at work >.< cant blame...
need to be devil's advocate at times

Anything anyone says ian you will counter it.... No matter how insane.

haha yup =p

Who's Ian?

Anywho, I agree that this whole deal is blown out of proportion the more I thin about it. GSL forcing a player to play a game which carries no significance in any way whatsoever is just pure "meh" in all its "meh-ness" glory.. Though, if I was Naniwa, I'd probably build like a whole frickin link of cannons all the way to Nestea's base or some funky play like that.. Haha

i'm Ian >.<
he calls me by name lolx

ian.... master of counter~ counter everything T_T

It is not devil's advocate as no one asked you to do so. It's more of authentic dissent instead

wern han, since when u change name? :|

its ok next time he will be smarter!

proxy 2 rax or 4g ftw =)

fuuuu need put my chinese name here meh >.<
ian is my english name =.= just tat i dun use it back in high school...

i'm not aware tat u need to be asked only u can be a devil's advocate...

hehehehe... whoops

http://www.spring.org.uk/2009/07/fighting-...ith-dissent.php

nt in organizational psychology (since i am not in a group context, no1 can really ask me to) so i mostly follow the general definition of "One who debates from a view which he may not actually hold, usually to determine its validity or simply for the sake of argument."...
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/devil's_advocate

You are.

best finals ever!

Not bad, not bad at all.. I just watched and it was like OMG..

5 probe rush on a match

cmon man, dont tell me you arent entertained?!

i bet some of you got a spike up ur arse when he cheong with 5 probes haha

obligatory

^ so bm, just like naniwa

exactly what was on my mind when i was posting that lul

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Added on December 23, 2011, 8:47 amthe crowd cheered for maximus right after that "bm"

This post has been edited by The Amateur Working Bee: Dec 23 2011, 08:48 AM

'Incident' of the year for 2011


lol