Military Thread V7
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 Feb 21 2012, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE(nairud @ Feb 21 2012, 11:03 AM) anyone know about the story that the USAF spy plane was forced to land by the Chinese military and when the US of A requested for it to be returned, the chinese said yes but they need to disassemble it and ship it out parts by parts instead of letting it fly out of china? the Hainan Island incident? IIRC China send out the plane piece by pieces using courier services to US  |
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Feb 21 2012, 11:07 AM
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The same model was at the airshow
 i dont know about that until my dad pointed out that plane to me that day |
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Feb 21 2012, 11:47 AM
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Naiss, did you try to see it close enough too see weather that the plane is the real one or got "Made in China" logo
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Feb 21 2012, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE(nairud @ Feb 21 2012, 11:03 AM) anyone know about the story that the USAF spy plane was forced to land by the Chinese military and when the US of A requested for it to be returned, the chinese said yes but they need to disassemble it and ship it out parts by parts instead of letting it fly out of china? The only incident i know is as atreyuangel said. Hainan incident back in april 2001. Chinese know how to tear down, but do not know how to re-assemble it. QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Feb 21 2012, 11:47 AM) Naiss, did you try to see it close enough too see weather that the plane is the real one or got "Made in China" logo This post has been edited by Quantum_thinking: Feb 21 2012, 01:56 PM |
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Feb 21 2012, 02:15 PM
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there is a fuss that the crew of the aries did not manage to get rid of all the intelligence or destroy the sensitive parts of the plane!
and knowing china, maybe the same technology or better has already embed in their plane |
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Feb 21 2012, 03:52 PM
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Iran plans to design, manufacture new military aircraft
Iran's Defense Minister Brigadier General Ahmad Vahidi says the Islamic Republic has set up several projects intended to design and build new advanced stealth and fighter planes. Speaking at the 11th Iranian Aerospace Society Conference in the capital Tehran on Monday, General Vahidi said that Iran enjoys considerable expertise to manufacture various military, fighter and passenger aircraft. He noted that Iran has made great strides in the aviation industry through the design and mass production of its first home-made Saeqeh (Thunderbolt) fighter jet, which has joined Iran's air force fleet. Brigadier General Vahidi highlighted that while a large number of world countries assemble airplanes under the license of a certain country, Islamic Republic of Iran produces domestically developed aircraft. The Iranian defense minister had earlier said that the design and production of advanced home-made fighter jets reveal the competence of Iran's defense industries and prove the futility of the US-led UN sanctions and additional unilateral sanctions imposed on the Islamic Republic by the US and its European allies. Brigadier General Mohammadreza Karshki said in February 2011 that the Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force has begun an extensive project to design and build the country's most advanced fighter jet. He added that the Iranian Air Force is cooperating with the nation's Defense Ministry in the project. The Iranian fighter jet is similar to the US-built F/A-18, although its appearance looks similar to F-5E/F Tiger II. The new single-seat bomber has the ability to track down enemy aircraft, engage in combat, target locations on the ground, and carry a load of assorted weapons and ammunition. Iran unveiled its first squadron of Saeqeh fighter-bombers in an air show in September 2010. In recent years, Iran has made great achievements in the defense sector and gained self-sufficiency in essential military hardware and defense systems. Iran has repeatedly assured other nations, especially regional neighbors, that its military might poses no threat to other countries, stating that its defense doctrine is merely based on deterrence. - Press TV - |
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Feb 21 2012, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(HangPC2 @ Feb 21 2012, 03:52 PM) Iran plans to design, manufacture new military aircraft they should convert F14 tomcat to stealth version. US will butthurt.Iran's Defense Minister Brigadier General Ahmad Vahidi says the Islamic Republic has set up several projects intended to design and build new advanced stealth and fighter planes. Speaking at the 11th Iranian Aerospace Society Conference in the capital Tehran on Monday, General Vahidi said that Iran enjoys considerable expertise to manufacture various military, fighter and passenger aircraft. He noted that Iran has made great strides in the aviation industry through the design and mass production of its first home-made Saeqeh (Thunderbolt) fighter jet, which has joined Iran's air force fleet. Brigadier General Vahidi highlighted that while a large number of world countries assemble airplanes under the license of a certain country, Islamic Republic of Iran produces domestically developed aircraft. The Iranian defense minister had earlier said that the design and production of advanced home-made fighter jets reveal the competence of Iran's defense industries and prove the futility of the US-led UN sanctions and additional unilateral sanctions imposed on the Islamic Republic by the US and its European allies. Brigadier General Mohammadreza Karshki said in February 2011 that the Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force has begun an extensive project to design and build the country's most advanced fighter jet. He added that the Iranian Air Force is cooperating with the nation's Defense Ministry in the project. The Iranian fighter jet is similar to the US-built F/A-18, although its appearance looks similar to F-5E/F Tiger II. The new single-seat bomber has the ability to track down enemy aircraft, engage in combat, target locations on the ground, and carry a load of assorted weapons and ammunition. Iran unveiled its first squadron of Saeqeh fighter-bombers in an air show in September 2010. In recent years, Iran has made great achievements in the defense sector and gained self-sufficiency in essential military hardware and defense systems. Iran has repeatedly assured other nations, especially regional neighbors, that its military might poses no threat to other countries, stating that its defense doctrine is merely based on deterrence. - Press TV - This post has been edited by Naskah: Feb 21 2012, 03:56 PM |
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Feb 21 2012, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Feb 21 2012, 02:15 PM) there is a fuss that the crew of the aries did not manage to get rid of all the intelligence or destroy the sensitive parts of the plane! I heard they lock the door and manage to destroy as most of the essential thing. then only come out.and knowing china, maybe the same technology or better has already embed in their plane |
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Feb 21 2012, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 21 2012, 04:03 PM) I heard they lock the door and manage to destroy as most of the essential thing. then only come out. yeah, I heard that too, but there is many version to this.there is version says that they only manage to destroy some of the sensitive material before PLA army storm the plane. |
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Feb 21 2012, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Feb 21 2012, 04:05 PM) yeah, I heard that too, but there is many version to this. they should install some self-destruct thing next times.there is version says that they only manage to destroy some of the sensitive material before PLA army storm the plane. |
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Feb 21 2012, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 21 2012, 04:08 PM) they should install some self-destruct thing next times. or they should just crash the plane with them..end story.  |
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Feb 21 2012, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(Naskah @ Feb 21 2012, 04:13 PM) or they should just crash the plane with them..end story. still not entire destroy the plane. |
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Feb 21 2012, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(HangPC2 @ Feb 21 2012, 03:52 PM) Iran plans to design, manufacture new military aircraft This one quite confusing to me..Iran's Defense Minister Brigadier General Ahmad Vahidi says the Islamic Republic has set up several projects intended to design and build new advanced stealth and fighter planes. Speaking at the 11th Iranian Aerospace Society Conference in the capital Tehran on Monday, General Vahidi said that Iran enjoys considerable expertise to manufacture various military, fighter and passenger aircraft. He noted that Iran has made great strides in the aviation industry through the design and mass production of its first home-made Saeqeh (Thunderbolt) fighter jet, which has joined Iran's air force fleet. Brigadier General Vahidi highlighted that while a large number of world countries assemble airplanes under the license of a certain country, Islamic Republic of Iran produces domestically developed aircraft. The Iranian defense minister had earlier said that the design and production of advanced home-made fighter jets reveal the competence of Iran's defense industries and prove the futility of the US-led UN sanctions and additional unilateral sanctions imposed on the Islamic Republic by the US and its European allies. Brigadier General Mohammadreza Karshki said in February 2011 that the Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force has begun an extensive project to design and build the country's most advanced fighter jet. He added that the Iranian Air Force is cooperating with the nation's Defense Ministry in the project. The Iranian fighter jet is similar to the US-built F/A-18, although its appearance looks similar to F-5E/F Tiger II. The new single-seat bomber has the ability to track down enemy aircraft, engage in combat, target locations on the ground, and carry a load of assorted weapons and ammunition. Iran unveiled its first squadron of Saeqeh fighter-bombers in an air show in September 2010. In recent years, Iran has made great achievements in the defense sector and gained self-sufficiency in essential military hardware and defense systems. Iran has repeatedly assured other nations, especially regional neighbors, that its military might poses no threat to other countries, stating that its defense doctrine is merely based on deterrence. - Press TV - |
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Feb 21 2012, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 21 2012, 04:08 PM) they should install some self-destruct thing next times. Not a good idea if it can be remotely activated as hacker can hack it and activate the bomb. See how the computerized enemy in eagle eye can auto eject fighter pilots? |
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Feb 21 2012, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Feb 21 2012, 04:15 PM) This one quite confusing to me.. I think it will be something like YF-17.QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Feb 21 2012, 04:16 PM) Not a good idea if it can be remotely activated as hacker can hack it and activate the bomb. make it manual thing with timer in it.See how the computerized enemy in eagle eye can auto eject fighter pilots? This post has been edited by yinchet: Feb 21 2012, 04:19 PM |
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Feb 21 2012, 04:18 PM
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But dude, F18 and F5 is way too dissimilar...
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Feb 21 2012, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Feb 21 2012, 04:18 PM) But dude, F18 and F5 is way too dissimilar... for F-18 yeah.but for YF-17, I think it inherit some similarity of F-5. just my opinion though. |
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Feb 21 2012, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Feb 21 2012, 04:15 PM) This one quite confusing to me.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HESA_SaeqehSimilar to the F18's because of the tail and the blue angels paint scheme  http://www.google.com/search?q=Saeqeh+figh...LGqT2mAWgssztCw This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Feb 21 2012, 05:05 PM |
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Feb 21 2012, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Feb 21 2012, 04:16 PM) Not a good idea if it can be remotely activated as hacker can hack it and activate the bomb. try to look it a the recent incidentSee how the computerized enemy in eagle eye can auto eject fighter pilots? how US UAV lands in Iraq when hackers insert code that make the UAV thinks it land in Afghanistan! |
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Feb 21 2012, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Feb 21 2012, 07:07 PM) try to look it a the recent incident fixedhow US UAV lands in Iran when hackers insert code that make the UAV thinks it land in Afghanistan! |
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