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post Dec 17 2011, 12:36 PM

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16 Disember, 2011 19:24 PM

Unit Boustead Dapat Kontrak Mindef Bernilai RM9 Bilion

KUALA LUMPUR, 16 Dis (Bernama) -- Unit kepada Boustead Holdings Bhd, Boustead Naval Shipyard Sdn Bhd telah diberikan kontrak bernilai RM9 bilion oleh Kementerian Pertahanan.

Kontrak itu ialah untuk penghantaran enam unit generasi kedua "Patrol Vessels Littoral Combat Ships" (Frigate Class) kepada kementerian, kata syarikat dalam kenyataan kepada Bursa Malaysia Jumaat.

Niaga janji itu meliputi reka bentuk, pembinaan, peralatan, pemasangan, pelaksanaan, integrasi dan pengujian ke atas keenam-enam kapal itu, katanya.

"Kontrak itu bernilai RM9 bilion, akan dilaksanakan dalam tempoh tiga Rancangan Malaysia, 10, 11 dan 12," katanya.

Penghantaran pertama dijangka pada 2017 dan disusuli oleh yang lain setiap enam bulan selepasnya.

-- BERNAMA
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Will be funded by 3 RMK 10,11,and 12
most probably
initial payment at most will be around RM3bil - RMK10;
ship payment RM4.5bil - RMK11; RM2.5bil - RMK12.


it officially a Frigate Class
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post Dec 18 2011, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(ET-Force @ Dec 17 2011, 06:46 PM)
and Typhoon can go Mach 2 ++ without afterburner is't?

1 more thing, our country will also receive 2 Sukhoi PAK FA when it is on duty right?
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hate to break your heart no we aren't getting any PAK FA
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post Dec 18 2011, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Dec 18 2011, 08:32 PM)
apa lagi boeing.. make a bid already

btw anyone saw Rafale segment in RTM1?

looks like all are rooting for Rafale... gudbai typhoon!
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I'm starting love rafale.
but my heart belongs to SH. laugh.gif
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post Dec 18 2011, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Dec 18 2011, 08:46 PM)
Rafale is extensively battle-proven in Libya. Typhoon also participated, but at a smaller scale.
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lolz Libya combat is like latest weapon fight against cold war weapons.

macam m1 vs t72 kat iraq.
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post Dec 18 2011, 09:27 PM

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Typhoon is over rated fragiled plane and also overprice.
Rafale have the best offer for now.
Sh have the best perfomance to price ratio.
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post Dec 18 2011, 10:00 PM

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Yup full access include technology training and localize maintenance part. Rafale ftw.
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post Dec 19 2011, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(nairud @ Dec 19 2011, 10:39 AM)
no piccie but it's in CNN vid.

that thing looks like there's a mine sensor at the front and at the top mounted with a MG.


Added on December 19, 2011, 10:40 am:Looks like a British Mastiff but....
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i think it is Cougar H... hmm.gif
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post Dec 19 2011, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(ET-Force @ Dec 19 2011, 01:50 AM)
dear TS,
i got an idea to proposed here,
i would like to see you or maybe someone who highly expert in our country's defence assets to list down the assets as well as the specifications that RMAF, RMA and RMN have especially about the aircraft and warships that Malaysia owns.

i know all of this information is written at Wikipedia but it would be more convenient if it can be posted here in lowyat forum, im sure that this act will bring good for people who is interested in these kind of knowledge like me.
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QUOTE(AKace @ Dec 19 2011, 03:15 AM)
maybe yinchet should do a post specifically for FAQs regarding Malaysian military
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will do when I have more time in hand.
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post Dec 19 2011, 05:42 PM

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MiG-29N mungkin dinaik taraf

FIRMA aeroangkasa Rusia, Mikoyan sedia untuk memasang sistem avionik dan persenjataan termoden untuk pesawat MiG-29 milik TUDM.

KUALA LUMPUR – Firma aeroangkasa Rusia, Mikoyan dikatakan sudah bersedia untuk menaik taraf 16 pesawat pejuang MiG-29N Tentera Udara Diraja Malaysia (TUDM) termasuk proses memasang sistem avionik, radar dan persenjataan termoden.

Cadangan menaik taraf pesawat tempur itu kepada versi Mikoyan MiG-29UPG merupakan opsyen Rusia kepada TUDM untuk memanjangkan jangka hayat selain mampu beroperasi setanding pesawat generasi baharu.

Menurut sumber industri, kos keseluruhan program itu dijangka tidak membebankan TUDM kerana ia melibatkan kerjasama strategik Rusia dengan industri aeroangkasa India, Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL).

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QUOTE(xtemujin @ Dec 19 2011, 06:30 PM)
The LIMA 2013 in March will be very closed to Aero India in February and Avalon Airshow Australia in late February.

Hopefully, we are able to see the RMAF EC725 and the Airbus A400M for LIMA 2013.
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EC725 will be there for sure.
not sure about A400M; hope there will be no issue occurs and proceed according to the scheduled.
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Israel tech is overrated anyway.
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QUOTE(ET-Force @ Dec 20 2011, 06:51 PM)
BLue screen of Death, lolol,
no wonder they call it like that, if really happen when flying the jet, death gonna happen.
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got eject seat mah..
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post Dec 24 2011, 04:07 PM

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More pic on kilat eagle exercise.

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Marines with Company I, Battalion Landing Team 3/1, 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit, load a CH-46E Sea Knight aboard USS Makin Island here Dec. 14 to participate in Exercise Kilat Eagle, a bilateral training event between Marines and sailors of MEU and soldiers from the Malaysian Army. The Camp Pendleton, Calif., based 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit deployed from San Diego Nov. 14 aboard USS Makin Island, USS New Orleans and USS Pearl Harbor and arrived in Malaysia Dec. 14 as part of a regularly scheduled deployment to the Western Pacific and Middle East regions. Photo by Capt. Roger Hollenbeck

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Marines with Company I, Battalion Landing Team 3/1, 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit, walk to a CH-53E Super Stallion aboard USS Makin Island here Dec. 14 to participate in Exercise Kilat Eagle, a bilateral training event between Marines and sailors of MEU and soldiers from the Malaysian Army. The Camp Pendleton, Calif., based 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit deployed from San Diego Nov. 14 aboard USS Makin Island, USS New Orleans and USS Pearl Harbor and arrived in Malaysia Dec. 14 as part of a regularly scheduled deployment to the Western Pacific and Middle East regions.  Photo by Capt. Roger Hollenbeck

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Marines with Company I, Battalion Landing Team 3/1, 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit, load a CH-53E Super Stallion aboard USS Makin Island here Dec. 14 to participate in Exercise Kilat Eagle, a bilateral training event between Marines and sailors of MEU and soldiers from the Malaysian Army. The Camp Pendleton, Calif., based 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit deployed from San Diego Nov. 14 aboard USS Makin Island, USS New Orleans and USS Pearl Harbor and arrived in Malaysia Dec. 14 as part of a regularly scheduled deployment to the Western Pacific and Middle East regions. Photo by Capt. Roger Hollenbeck

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A CH-53E Super Stallion from Marine Medium Helicopter Squadron 268 (Reinforced) departs USS Makin Island here Dec. 14 to fly 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit personnel to Kuantan, Malaysia for Exercise Kilat Eagle, a bilateral training event between Marines and sailors of MEU and soldiers from the Malaysian Army. The Camp Pendleton, Calif., based 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit deployed from San Diego Nov. 14 aboard USS Makin Island, USS New Orleans and USS Pearl Harbor and arrived in Malaysia Dec. 14 as part of a regularly scheduled deployment to the Western Pacific and Middle East regions  Photo by Capt. Roger Hollenbeck

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post Dec 26 2011, 11:38 AM

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Barrett 30th Anniversary M107A1 Rifle

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Barrett Firearms Manufacturing was started by Ronnie Barrett in 1982.
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QUOTE(DeFaeco @ Dec 28 2011, 09:44 AM)
I never understood the need for stealth fighters. It would only make sense if you have a "strike first" military doctrine. If you don't, the stealth fighter squadrons will surely  be a priority target when a hostile nation declares war. Which means most likely you would lose your fighters in the first day of conflict.

Instead of spending huge amount of money on stealth fighters, why not use it to improve the air defense capability instead? It's cheaper and it makes more sense if you are going for a defense only doctrine.
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Stealth are very useful in air 2 air battle especially BVR.
In future is going to be who detect who 1st. "Perhaps these would leads to radar technology race"
if you can't see me you are as good as dead.

to me strike first doctrine were mostly use for stealth bomber. like the f117 and b2.

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QUOTE(DeFaeco @ Dec 28 2011, 02:23 PM)
Yeah, maybe under the perfect conditions. Nothing in war is ever perfect. Most of the time you will be flying over a SAM site, knowingly or not. Kinda hard to shoot down a bogey, BVR or not, when your RWR is indicating SAM launch.

The Serbs manage to shoot down an F-117 during the Kosovo war. They were not even using a specific anti-stealth technology to do it. It was basically a combination of good intel, knowledge of equipment at hand and a barrage of SAMs with proximity fuse.

That was some time ago. I'm pretty sure there are more advanced systems to date.

Would you rather have a squadron of stealth fighters when at the same price, gets you maybe 2 full squadrons of generation 4+ aircraft with change for a decent air defense system?
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lol...
It depend on how you are going utilize those fighter. the whole war is not just about stealth fighter but a collective of defensive forces and offensive forces.

TBH serb shoot down down only 1 F-117 dat is... It just proof of concept dat they are able to shoot down 1.
the current stealth fighter have overcome most of the weakness in the 1st generation stealth fighter. which is slow, lack of A2A capabilities and unable to defend themselves if they were being lock on or engage in dog fights.

between there is no anti stealth technology.
it just an advancement in radar technology.

there is a reason Y there is a hype all over the AESA radar technology and stealth technology.
both however can't guarantees 100% effectiveness against each others.
stealth technology tries to reduce the detection range and effectiveness of opponent radar and newer radar technology tries to improve the detection range against the low RCS fighter.
heck even 4th generation fighter improve their RCS.

too shoot down a bogey is not hard. imo, how many times you can use flairs and decoy??
btw in the current times offensive force would disable all SAM site 1st. and having total control in the airspace.
try read some Operation Odyssey Dawn

QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Dec 28 2011, 04:36 PM)
I've always said it to my friends that always admire stealth technology!

"detection is always one radar away" laugh.gif
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lolz...
radar technology race is on.
AESA radar FTW..
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post Dec 29 2011, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Dec 28 2011, 07:36 PM)
Even passive radar can read the presence of stealth,  I'm thinking in 10 years or so!
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Passive of'coz can detect the stealth but stealth futures dat apply on the aircraft reduce the range of detection of the radar.

stealth technology always being misunderstood. like stealth mean cannot detect. in realities it only evade radar frequency aje
let say:
A radar with a range of 200km effective range for normal fighter.
however his effective range reduce to 50km for detecting a stealth bomber or stealth fighter.
The whole things become even more complex when differ radar bands reacts differently on the stealth method use on stealth fighter. "I'm not quite sure about the technical parts"

QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Dec 29 2011, 02:28 PM)
and we already have 3 sets of Vera-E radars..
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yup, but still not sure how effective were it against the next generation stealth fighter like the PAKFA, F-35, B-2 and china stealth fighter.
however 1 things for sure its will be quite effective against the F-15 silent eagle which optimize for xband radar.

QUOTE(bf48qo @ Dec 29 2011, 02:40 PM)
confirm ke? i thought it was a rumour?
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confirm..

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Dec 30 2011, 01:18 AM)
hehe I read somewhere that the raptor radar signature is just as small as bee!

so to radar guy, if you see a bee that moving in the speed of 1 mach and more be alert  tongue.gif
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dat aircraft is not visible in radar screen.
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HDW U-216 May be on Navy's Shopping List


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HDW U-216 conventional submarines (all images : Militaryphotos)


U-boats may be on navy's shopping list

Australia's ''future submarine'' could be a super U-boat built by a German company that made many of the submarines that nearly brought Britain to its knees in World War II.

HDW has released details of a concept design, designated the Type 216, for a long-range conventional submarine.

Experts say the design, based on the successful Type 214, is specifically targeted at Sea 1000 - Defence's future submarine program.

Rex Patrick, a former submariner and the director of Acoustic Force, said yesterday the information available indicated Type 216 would meet the requirements spelt out in the 2009 Defence white paper and there was no reason the submarines could not be built in Adelaide.

''I think they [HDW] have been working on the Type 216 for some time with candidates like Australia, India and Canada in mind,'' he said.

Another HDW design, the Type 209, is the basis for three submarines Indonesia is buying from Korea's Daewoo Shipbuilding Marine Engineering.

The $1billion contract for the three, two of which will be built in South Korea and one in Indonesia, was signed on December 20.

Defence has been considering a number of European submarines, including the HDW 214, the Spanish Navantia S-80 and French DCNS Scorpene, as replacements for the trouble-plagued Collins for some time. It has confirmed ''requests for information'' are to be sent to the three manufacturers.

Defence has also signed a contract with Babcock to research a land-based submarine propulsion test facility and a ''Future Submarine Industry Skills Plan'' is being prepared.

While Defence has acknowledged the European vessels offer proven designs and shorter delivery times than an Australian-designed submarine, the concern is they are too small to meet Australia's broad needs as outlined in the 2009 white paper.

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The ''supersized'' HDW Type 216 may change that. It is more than twice the size of the three submarines that have just been commissioned by Indonesia.

Designated the Type 1400, the Indonesian boats will still be very capable. The first is expected to be in use by 2015 with the second scheduled for delivery in 2018.

There is grave concern delays in the Government's decision making process means there is no longer sufficient time to design and build an ''evolved'' Collins class boat by the 2025 deadline.

Former ASC chief executive officer, Greg Tunney, is on the record as having said ''serious concept work and definition studies'' should have begun in 2010.

HDW's Type 216 concept, the subject of a special report in the current edition of Jane's International Defence Review, overcomes the shortcomings of small European submarines and would take less time - and money - to build than a ''son of Collins'' analysts claim. At almost 4000t, 89m long and with an extendable minimum range of 10,400 nautical miles (19,240km), it outclasses the existing Collins in every way.

The evolved 216 would come with air-independent propulsion giving it a nuclear submarine-like ability to linger underwater in choke points such as the Straits of Malacca for weeks on end. It would have the ability to launch cruise missiles, carry a ''swimmer delivery vehicle'' for special operations and be extremely quiet thanks to propulsion design parameters and an outer shell that absorbs sound.

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Dec 31 2011, 08:59 PM)
wow? another class of submarine for Singapore!
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