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corad
post Sep 27 2012, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Sep 27 2012, 10:28 AM)
10 Para was established mainly with this in mind. It'll be used to rapidly secure strategic targets; Oil rigs and refineries, ports, bridges dll, prior to the arrival of a main force.

As for fictional assets, i would rather go for Tavor and UMP. P90 failed US special forces qualification run.
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Isn't Tavor a near twin to the SAR21 ?

Also does anyone know how the command structure of ATM works ? Say a threat is detected in the Straits of Melaka, some frigate just opened fire on a VIP yatch etc . Who gets informed 1st ? And does the Defense Minister , Prime Minister or Agong get the final say in ok-ing a combined retaliation ? (air+land+sea)


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post Sep 27 2012, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Sep 27 2012, 10:16 AM)
MALAYSIA, Y U NO BUY LEO2?!
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Due to weight limit requirement.

QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Sep 27 2012, 11:05 AM)
We may have soft soil, but it's hardly muddy. Beside we are no longer in the 60s where gravel road is few and far in between, and Tar road can be count with your finger. We now have better road network. even kampung road nowadays are better then most main road 50 years ago. Even without it's mobility, the tank is a superb fire support platform. The trick is to make the tank and the infantry to work side by side.
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Its due to the our bridge standards able to support up to 50tons. thus limit were sets.
However I heard the next batch will not be set on weight limits. so we might not see additional batch from pendekar.

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Anyway due to new law 114, plz refrain yourself from come up with post like independent state. Thank you very much. smile.gif
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post Sep 27 2012, 03:59 PM

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So i think Malaysia still has the best defence in this region.

read : defense.
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post Sep 27 2012, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(corad @ Sep 27 2012, 01:33 PM)
Isn't Tavor a near twin to the SAR21 ?

Also does anyone know how the command structure of ATM works ? Say a threat is detected in the Straits of Melaka, some frigate just opened fire on a VIP yatch etc . Who gets informed 1st ? And does the Defense Minister , Prime Minister or Agong get the final say in ok-ing a combined retaliation ? (air+land+sea)
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im also rather curious bout this. in cases of conflict, who shall be in command and the supreme decision-maker?

The YDPA (as the Commander-in-Chief), the Prime Minister (the way Churchill was in WW2) or the Minister of Defense?

anyone care to elaborate on this issue? rolleyes.gif hmm.gif
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post Sep 27 2012, 04:42 PM

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Thai Soldiers with their brand new Tavor assault rifle. RTA is the biggest foreign user for this rifle.

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post Sep 27 2012, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Sep 27 2012, 03:52 PM)
Anyway due to new law 114, plz refrain yourself from come up with post like independent state. Thank you very much. smile.gif
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I guess this is for me ? laugh.gif

Personally I don't think it's an issue, especially since I started posting by 1st saying it's fiction, (ie: tidak benar, untrue, imagination, fairy tales etc). That said, why I had to begin that way shows how "free" our country is doh.gif

If large multinationals are able to make games, movies and best sellers from Russia vs US, Terrorists vs US, China vs Japan etc ... I can't phantom why a fictitious "rebel" Borneo vs Peninsular should be an issue ? Especially since it's based on fictional assets, in a fictional timeline, with fictional heroes and fictional explosions.

Thanks for your concern though. And don't worry, I'm leaving religion completely out of my story.

Kopitiam used to be fun sad.gif

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post Sep 27 2012, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(corad @ Sep 27 2012, 01:33 PM)
Isn't Tavor a near twin to the SAR21 ?

Also does anyone know how the command structure of ATM works ? Say a threat is detected in the Straits of Melaka, some frigate just opened fire on a VIP yatch etc . Who gets informed 1st ? And does the Defense Minister , Prime Minister or Agong get the final say in ok-ing a combined retaliation ? (air+land+sea)
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sar and tavor different. just looks the same cos bullpup.
IDF already moving to even smaller tavor-2.
sar is still rather big for me and most SAF guys are not fond of the integrated scope - hence a sar-21a w/o integrated scope is in the works.

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m16a1 size vs sar-21.

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prefer the modular version of current SAR.

QUOTE(lucifer_666 @ Sep 27 2012, 04:30 PM)
im also rather curious bout this. in cases of conflict, who shall be in command and the supreme decision-maker?

The YDPA (as the Commander-in-Chief), the Prime Minister (the way Churchill was in WW2) or the Minister of Defense?

anyone care to elaborate on this issue?  rolleyes.gif  hmm.gif
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My guess is the sovereign king/queen, despite being head of army will just defer to PM, who is advised by Minister of Defense.

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post Sep 27 2012, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(corad @ Sep 27 2012, 04:44 PM)
I guess this is for me ?  laugh.gif

Personally I don't think it's an issue, especially since I started posting by 1st saying it's fiction, (ie: tidak benar, untrue, imagination, fairy tales etc). That said, why I had to begin that way shows how "free" our country is  doh.gif

If large multinationals are able to make games, movies and best sellers from Russia vs US, Terrorists vs US, China vs Japan etc ... I can't phantom why a fictitious "rebel" Borneo vs Peninsular should be an issue ? Especially since it's based on fictional assets, in a fictional timeline, with fictional heroes and fictional explosions.

Thanks for your concern though. And don't worry, I'm leaving religion completely out of my story.

Kopitiam used to be fun sad.gif
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well if wanted a fiction story it would be better for ya to start a new topics. smile.gif
For Sarawak to be independent is near impossible with unless they started of with sufficient military force in their hand.
They either with Malaysia or England.
Indon will be the first to knock the Sarawak doorsteps. these kinda of things is not new for indon. timor leste and west puapa is the best example of indon handy works.

Anyway that is for Sarawak independent things in military thread. thank you very much.
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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Sep 27 2012, 10:16 AM)
MALAYSIA, Y U NO BUY LEO2?!
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hahaha, chillz!

one of my very intelligence friends told me that the different of Pendekar and Leo is...
Leo have more bell and whistles only!
so no nid to sked


QUOTE(bananajoe @ Sep 27 2012, 03:59 PM)
So i think Malaysia still has the best defence in this region.

read : defense.
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Our ATM Doctrine is HANRUH (Pertahanan Menyeluruh) or Total Defence or maybe we can call it TODEF kekekekke (do not read TODie!)
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Sep 27 2012, 08:22 PM)
hahaha, chillz!

one of my very intelligence friends told me that the different of Pendekar and Leo is...
Leo have more bell and whistles only!
so no nid to sked
Our ATM Doctrine is HANRUH (Pertahanan Menyeluruh) or Total Defence or maybe we can call it TODEF kekekekke (do not read TODie!)
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Saya kurang puas hati the Indons get it along with Apaches cry.gif

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Sep 26 2012, 01:57 AM)
dude where have you been?
stuck at Angsi Delta for too long not gooding yo!
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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Sep 27 2012, 09:44 PM)
Saya kurang puas hati the Indons get it along with Apaches  cry.gif
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well a hellfire costs the same as 5 1st class prostitutes so ATM can't afford apaches.well they could if the bean counters actually did their jobs.
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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Sep 26 2012, 02:59 PM)
got record in 720p as shown in History HD but no time to edit yet lah..
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ok if later got time share with me yea? thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Sep 27 2012, 09:44 PM)
Saya kurang puas hati the Indons get it along with Apaches  cry.gif
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bukan ko sorang sad.gif

QUOTE(heavyduty @ Sep 27 2012, 09:52 PM)
Im always here
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then continue with the Haiti mission already!
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post Sep 28 2012, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(acam2812 @ Sep 22 2012, 02:00 PM)
will any SEA military will buy Ospreys MV-22


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its like opening a can of worm,waiting to explode-the maintenance of that shit just too high by US military standard

old news
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/...1666282,00.html


latest news
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology...s-money-8347657
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post Sep 28 2012, 03:04 PM

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According to Greece. laugh.gif

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post Sep 28 2012, 03:15 PM

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rarely seen, some RTA units use AK-47

i seen b4 at betong, thailand but with black stock
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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Sep 27 2012, 04:42 PM)
Thai Soldiers with their brand new Tavor assault rifle. RTA is the biggest foreign user for this rifle.

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post Sep 28 2012, 08:25 PM

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can any of our Indonesia counterpart tell if this is true or just rumors?

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post Sep 28 2012, 08:34 PM

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lol mig29 also 4th gen. i tot jas39 is way more advanced with many more computers.

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Sep 28 2012, 08:25 PM)
can any of our Indonesia counterpart tell if this is true or just rumors?

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