good father !......happy fathers day....so around when wanna come again ._.?

happy father's day?...today ah?..hehehe

hoh! caught talking behind my back while i was gone




anyway just come back today from sea survival refresher course!
penat loo berenang2 ke tepian...

I read from your last session it was a great time you have there...if only i can join, maybe Choongster will not say all CDJs are that bad....give the cdjs some chances:P

eh i didnt say CDJ sucks or anything .. just that CDJ is not for me.. so yea..

kingz...
i also agree to send your daughter to learn some piano..
cause i believe that piano is the fundemental common instrument.
later on when she is old enough to lean what she wants its up to her.
you know with piano, it would be easy to do producing, arrangements n etc. cause most midi-controller would be in a keyboard like form. also by learning piano, you can learn other insturments easier.

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Added on May 14, 2008, 1:31 pmaiyah next meeting i want to play with vinyls la...
got try before but for short while only...
and also must try the cdj-400. the beat divider like very interesting.


This post has been edited by procontavia: May 14 2008, 01:31 PM

....the cdj in my place for almost 1 month ..... i still havent know how to use the beat divider yet

i disagree.. u can easily mix without all those 'theory' if u have the ear for it, just like when i took up drums 10 years back, i found that practising it is much much more better than going to the class and getting the 'theory'... music comes from the soul bebeh hehe

so yeah kings get ur gear set up, listen to some examples (any djs ur into?) and copy the styles first, then u can evolve from there.. its all about practice..

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Added on May 14, 2008, 5:30 pmhaha itu pun consider talking behind ur back ka??
and yeah cdjs sucks compared to turntables haha

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Added on May 14, 2008, 5:31 pmhuh beat divider whats that?

This post has been edited by westokan: May 14 2008, 05:31 PM

eh bang.. his daughter only 3 years old la .... apa "ear" she has?

all the great ppl in eg sports starts really small, the subconscious absorbs quite a bit during infancy, go read up on child psychology 101 haha.. ur a scratch dj, havent u heard of a-trak? guess what age he started, then winning the dmc at 15 y/o?

a-trak is kanye's dj rite? well, at what age did he start? how old is he now?

@choongster, you can get cheaper pirce for battle pak? cheaper by how much? (just an enquiry)

no laa, joking only maa...
yeah, cdj sucks & it's crap...not sexy coz no spinning platter
but why on the youtube video u still use them

he probably about 25 ish

i "CAN'T" get any cheaper ... if you mention my name ....MAYBE... MAYBE only ... can get cheaper than retail ..i don't know.. i only know the manager as my bro's friend ..

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Added on May 14, 2008, 11:17 pmhaha .. westokan kantoi!!

btw ... a-trak was 13 when he started

Alain Macklovitch was 13 when he scratched his first record. ... i guess that's his real name

again i'm not talking about scratching ...i talking about bar counting ... beat matching ..


This post has been edited by Choongster: May 14 2008, 11:23 PM

wahh..westokan got vid on the youtube...kena cari ni...hehehe...

This post has been edited by K1ngZ: May 15 2008, 01:05 AM

scroll a few pages back and you will see the link's to westokan's youtube ..

woo he's very pro yo...tabik spring

found & watched alredy the vid...wow!! memang very pro...can be my sifu ah???

speed - haha its funny how u took my sarcasm seriously when there's a in the sentence.. do u see any other turntable in that video? i had to make do of what's available.. when there's no BMW around u gotta settle for a Proton rite? hehehe.. no seriously, i have nothing against cdj, i think its a wise choice especially for us with no access to vinyls.. but i still prefer the black disc (and im not talking about black cds hehe)

choong - same thing man, u gotta admit djing in general is pretty easy to catch on, there's no 'right' way of mixing and there is no 'notes' to talk about, u dont read those 'taugeys' to mix, do u? and tt isnt actually an instrument, is it? hehe and bar-counting and so on, from my experience and a lot of my other friends, its just a matter of whether u are familiar with a certain genre, and after a while u kinda get the feel of when the track is coming to a chorus eg.. all tracks have pretty much the same structure.. same goes with 'keys', alot of top djs talks about 'key mixing', they dont actually analyse each and every tracks before mixing, with experience u can 'feel' which track suits better with the other.. as i said before, mixing is all about practice..

just my 2 cents worth which will be rounded up to 0 cent supaya jimat dan senang kira hehe

i rest my case la west... i doubt at the age of 3 years .. then can't differentiate those things ..

yes some people do analyse keys before they mix. what you have to do is use 'mixed in key' or if you have a good theory in music and have an ear you can know what key suits what other key, i dont doubt it. people can listen to a song just for a while and can tell you that a song is in i.e d-maj and so there are 3 other keys which will suit d-maj which are d-maj itself (obviously) g-maj and a-maj. i have friends which are pro musicians which can tell right away the key of the song the moment they hear it (good music background, thats why i envy them)

you see what this harmonic mixing thing does is to add another parameter on top of bpm to your crate. so for example when you are playing a set, you're in c-minor (track on air) so you can take another song which are f-min or g-min or c-min and depending on the crowd which you will have to read, pick a song based on bpm and keys which are compatible. (of course you can skip the part if you can utilise the djm-800's color effects which does the harmonics for you) and yes i can say that there are alot of djs big names ones whom uses this technique. i cant list them down for you if you want.

Ali 'Dubfire' from Deep Dish
Pete Tong from BBC Radio 1
Hernan Cattaneo
DJ Prince
Kaskade, from Hed Kandi
Kuffdam
Blank & Jones
bla-bla-bla

MixedInKey also reports that DJ Mag has posted results of their Top 100 DJ poll, and nine of the top 20 DJs now use harmonic mixing. http://www.djmag.com/index.php?op=top_100&story=home

in my own opinion. having techniques in mixing accounts up to only 30% of your whole performance but picking the right songs or a good song selection will amount up to 70% of the performance.
i am sure you wouldn't want to hear a fantastic beatmixing dj whom plays rubbish songs aren't you? and most non-dj people dont give a nuts if you have great skills in beatmixing or not, if you realise they care more about the music that is being played. i have heard plenty of djs whom just slam songs in all night long but still get good crowd response. its because the music that dj chosed was good.

a good dj comes prepared into a club with his library sorted out nicely. so yes they do have analyse every track. as a professional dj, people are paying you, so they have some professional ethics in them to be diciplined enough to deliver the best sets you can night after night, so if harmonic mixing improves your sets why not use it?

but the 'feel' you are saying is another consideration you have to look at on top of the ones mentioned earlier. but yes i also do agree that to a certain extend it might be difficult to incorperate harmonics mixing in to live sets mainly because the song you know that is going to rock the house is not key-compatible (this is where the djm-800 comes in handy. somebody sponsor me one!!! )
i also agree that the feel of a song is really important into deciding on what song to play next.
also i will have explain that harmonics will not dictate your song selection but instead it only will serve as a tool to help you decide a compatible song.
but in a studio environment, harmonic mixing is a preference especially when you can preprogramme your mixes.

This post has been edited by procontavia: May 16 2008, 02:13 AM

lol, must be good if it's black cdjs as well..dont they ?
well, that's really good for a techno dj to make use the cdjs very pro....wah lau eh...
yalah, the only option is to drive Kancil as for my case, because the new Proton model has not arrived yet.
hehehe

procontavia = but sometimes mixing harmonically limited my choice of music....too dependent to matched them in line, or it's just me that was noob?