Bro... Don't scared me leh... I got a unit at zefer and ready to flip....

Just hope can make some quick bucks~~

i notice at night unit have switch on light is very little only!! does that mean most Atmonfera buyer is investor??

Sorry bro, not my intention to scare anyone. Just sharing my view.
I could be wrong and Zefer could be highly sought-after in 2 years time. Who knows?

But I am being truthful about Villamas and the quality of its products..
When I invested in Atmosfera, I knew about Villamas' not-so-favourable reputation. But my thinking at that time was the package and pricing was favourable (it was in 2009), and the market should have recovered by the time it VP. So i took the gamble. When I heard Villamas was planning for Zefer, I was so happy. Since Atmosfera was their early foray into upper-mid priced condo, I believed they would want to use Atmosfera as a prime example to enhance their reputation to play in the mid-high price segment. I thought Villamas will put 120% effort to ensure Atmosfera is flawless and perfect.

I was wrong.

i think most of the owner in atmosfera is investor. go iproperty and there are many listing. i think it is because low entry cost.

zefer now selling at higher price and i think it will be lesser percentage of investor (flip) compare to atmosfera.

Indeed, you are right... till now i think is only 20% is staying in Atmosfera..

I really hope that Villamas management can wake up now to ensure Zefer has better workmanship.. else they can get ready to tapao for future developement...

I dont have the actual figures, but I wouldn't say MOST of the owners are investors.
On my floor alone I have met at least five owners who are planning to stay there, plus two more from directly up and down my unit whom I met during flood-testing.

It's just that many people have not move in yet due to some reasons or another, but mostly because the place is not good enough to move in yet!

And talk about iProperty.. someone inside the develor (or the developer itself) was so unethical to 'sell' the owners data to these real estate agencies! During the 1-2 weeks after VP, i received at least 2-3 calls a day from these agents!

There are multiple posting on iproperty by agent who actually do not have units on hand, and after they got the potential buyers only they try to solicit from owners to sell! Worse, they pushed the price low to attract interest and then tell the owners that was the offered price! Bloody unethical!

I think it is hard to wake the developer up.. this is because all they care just money. the quality of work is done by the main contractor and sub contractor and they always push all responsibility to the contractor. end up they will say the contractor dissapoint them lar.. these and that lar.. they so sorry of everything turn out like that and they will give pressure to the contractor to repair all the things lar.. Sigh..

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Added on October 10, 2012, 3:38 pmi agree with u that there are many agent in iproperty simply put all the prices whereby they do not have a unit on hand. Sigh....

This post has been edited by Falangkei: Oct 10 2012, 03:38 PM

I hope they will keep promise to upgrade Jalan Pipit as what the saleman told me during zefer sales launch..

this is very important... imagine after zefer, Koi Kinrara phase 2 and IOI finish...

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Added on October 10, 2012, 3:57 pmbtw, is there any complain about water leakage so far in Atmosfera?

This post has been edited by Chunkit9: Oct 10 2012, 03:57 PM

i think the water leakage in atmosfera just small problem. it is just the piping problem.

I have mentioned about Villamas construction contractor quality long time ago (I'm Villamas Apt ex-owner).. Not sure why Villamas unable to improve their quality.. Now they are trying to sell expensive condominium.. good luck buyers... finger cross..

Yeah, I learned my lesson.
Leopards dont change their spots.
That's why I consider myself lucky didnt invest in Zefer.
Con me once, shame on you; con me twice, shame on me!

Any owners managed to sell their units? Even after launching so long, I still get SMS for me to preview Zefer. So bad ar the sales.

from my last update from friend, it is almost sold out for tower 1 and left only some big units in tower 2.

once they conned me.. i will never buy their house again..

With the selling price of Zefer, hopefully they will give the purchasers who paid the price.

ha ha.. that is the same thing they told me before..

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Added on October 10, 2012, 4:30 pmThey will restrict their budget low for more profit..

This post has been edited by abgkik: Oct 10 2012, 04:30 PM

I think they are just telling you the truth. I am not try to side the developer but this is the problem which my friend and I are facing of leakage and it do happens in Condo and Apartments.

I agree very much with you that they want MAX profit..... T_T

I knew about leakage happen at condo or apt.. but their problem is unacceptable and unbeliveble..

How to go listed with such reputation !!!

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Added on October 19, 2012, 12:22 pmHeard a lot of bad comments from Atmosfera owners.

This post has been edited by Dracula_X: Oct 19 2012, 12:22 PM