slight correction:

Though, it still remain controversial of the species called Splenden, others like imbellis, smaragdina(might be broke down further into 2 species later on) & a few others falls under the group Splenden...

And the origin of "show grade"...comes from fighter, through selective breeding as well...trace further back, fighter are ordinary species from Splenden group, "trained" & selectively bred for the kiss of death, in the process, successful fighter were released in different localities(bare in mind that other sp of the same group might exist in the released habitat)...

So, after all, people does call show grade betta as Splenden as an easy name(i.e. people in general call them fighting fish), the species of Splenden does falls under the category as well so do fighter...all others? probably the near cousin or far cousin of them unless we want to stereotypically classify them into show, fighter & wild.

Btw, if there's an intention to open up a different discussion for wild betta alone, I'll lend my help, but don't count on the number of people as this is one of it's kind type of hobby(you'll understand the situation over time in the hobby)

As for Imbellis, there's a reason fighting fish is called fighting fish...
Lot of case of imbellis killing each others happen before, though they are nick named as peaceful fighter, it does happen when you does not match the number of fishes well with deco & tank size plus other factors i.e. separately house them before, mixing new batch of fish with an existing batch in tank and so-on


@Faez, any result from Cybervida, Tussyae & brownies?

This post has been edited by c.way: Apr 27 2012, 12:59 PM

haha, can do if you know understand them, too bad that u people came along to the scene so late as I've already quitted, being too tired to carry on the species maintainance on the effort of only a few whom mostly quitted or go low profile


congrate , if problem spawning, throw to me, just supply me with the live food, the impossible can be done with me

congrate bro, would like to pay u a visit when u succeed , btw, coccina johor still in my place, when u wanna get them from me , wanna quit but some fish still stuck with me...

now? Imbellis Cyberjaya male(if it's still alive), Coccina Johor & Betta Mandor(id by senior, remain arguable as it comes as strohi)...

haha, seems like u are one who appreciate originality, it's easy to understand the logic, as a matter of preference, some people have no problem accepting plastic surgery while some cannot and some would go to gym to build up muscle to look tough but being sissy in character, having giant splenden is just an advancement made by people to fulfil their curiosity/demand only, debatable just like cloning tech, btw, smaragdina/mahachai or even imbellis have high tendency of not being pure breed itself

wild one depends, those falls under splenden group are more controversial since almost all the sp in that group were involved in catch & release culture for the past few hundred years for fish fighting purpose, that's the main reason why I do not fancy splenden group as I personally think it's the one with highest possibility of being mixed bred, those sp that are commonly found like pugnax have high tendency as well since it's widely distributed through out malaysia & being very diverse in species among it's own group, catch and released(to a foreign water) might caused hybridization easily

haha, a common interest forms a common path, down the way to wild betta.

It all remain controversial, up to the extend we can accept.(Bare in mind that Persephone have locality differences as well)

For purist like me, my selection of sp is deep down to the root of it's locality, those without locality detail will all regarded as culled or temporary sp with me, show betta is an art of selective breeding, too bad that it's too common(overbred perhaps) and also ethic issues of many keepers, so it end up nowhere in my previous collection plan.

congrate bro , saturday night teh tarik?