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samwongjyhhorng
post Dec 9 2011, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Dec 9 2011, 09:14 PM)
Then I ask u lah.. In a high performance car, dont u think the gearchange feel is very important as well? If use CVT, just tekan and jalan, ada feel meh? DSG is made for smoothness meh? More like built for speed-shifting purpose.
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oic..i dunno it so i juz ask lo..
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post Dec 9 2011, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(abong8 @ Dec 9 2011, 09:41 PM)
Xan, in my opinion, for proton case, the cvt performance does not have a very significant performance compared with the normal 4AT.. They say it helps to improve FC, but then, the cvt oil is damn expensive.. Is it really worthy the amount of petrol saved to the price of the cvt oil?
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even the petrol oso save a bit onli nia..my previous saga blm auto oso always can hit RM0.14/km...city drive but no jam..highway drive oso can rm0.13/km lo..
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post Dec 10 2011, 10:49 AM

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Juz test saga 1.6cvt..pick up from 0 to 100 sure can tapau us.but engine noise very terrible.
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post Dec 10 2011, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Dec 10 2011, 11:00 AM)
100km onward, PE got hope to tapao back mah?
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Dun think so..anyway,i stil prefer our pe since more stable and comfortable.


Added on December 10, 2011, 12:41 pm
QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Dec 10 2011, 11:54 AM)
exora CFE coming-up with 205nm 2000-4000rpm  biggrin.gif
Any idea how much the power vs our stock IAFM with only 148nm @ 4000rpm?
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Exora wil launch next week.told by sa..onli full spec got turbo..b n m line stil use cps plus cvt.

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samwongjyhhorng
post Dec 11 2011, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Dec 11 2011, 01:22 AM)
my nx mod will be 4-2-1 extractor...
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My next mod wil sell off my car.i reali beh tahan.juz fix d kruk kruk sound at rear,nw d rear side got sound again..when pass d rough surface road,rear left hand side got tik tak tik tak sound.onli close radio juz can hear..seems like clip longgar sound.haiz.tis friday wil go proton complaint.
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post Dec 11 2011, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Dec 11 2011, 03:28 PM)
CVT still ok lah. Transmission loss not that bad. But the figures bug me a bit tho. 1.6 turbo but 138HP. hmm.gif but the torque figures are high. So probably the new exora will have lots of low end grunt & hill climb ability but top end still same.
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Cvt transmission lose not so good lo.inspira dyno onli 101whp.stock 2.0.ori is 147bhp.
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post Dec 11 2011, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Dec 11 2011, 06:53 PM)
I think if they dyno the 1.8 manual they'll get better results than 2.0 CVT.
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1.8 manual stock is 110whp,after remap is 118whp.
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post Dec 11 2011, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Dec 11 2011, 10:42 PM)
Dyno results? Not bad ma.


Added on December 11, 2011, 10:43 pm
Dyno results? Not bad ma. But CPS Gen 2 also make around the same hp only.
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Manual is quite good.but cvt cant get good result.i think 1.8 cvt wil below 100whp.wat is gen2 cpr whp?

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post Dec 13 2011, 10:47 AM

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Why my rear seat stil got kluk kluk sound after wrap d black tape?oledi tape quite thick lo.haiz..when fold d seat to try,then d sound wil gone.


Added on December 13, 2011, 10:47 amWhy my rear seat stil got kluk kluk sound after wrap d black tape?oledi tape quite thick lo.haiz..when fold d seat to try,then d sound wil gone.

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post Dec 13 2011, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Dec 13 2011, 11:00 AM)
need double post meh always said kluk kluk sound wat is kluk kluk sound try record and post here lah the back seat is not too big only still can't find from where ?
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When fold down d seat then d sound wil gone..is d left side rear seat..i try fold down d seat n goyang kiri n kanan,d seat wil goyang oso loh.seems like d shaft inside d seat longgar loh.
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post Dec 13 2011, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Dec 13 2011, 01:49 PM)
rclxms.gif well done there you find the problem, go calim or just fix it outside, instead of keep complain here, you bring up this problem more than a month no one know how to fix it  sad.gif
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yup,i oledi make appointment to make complaint on tis friday..hope the sc can settle it..maybe will leave the car at there one day..


Added on December 13, 2011, 3:17 pm
QUOTE(unknownhammie @ Dec 13 2011, 01:50 PM)
chance inspira bah... less problem somemore can tapau PE...  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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honestly,if i havent bought PE,inspira will be my choice..but since i oledi bought PE,so my next car will be no proton oledi..i discuss wit my wife oledi..will change car on 2013 and change MPV tongue.gif tis two years juz regard pe as working car lo..

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post Dec 13 2011, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Dec 13 2011, 03:59 PM)
ah sam.. want many many kids ma...
if no MPV... cannot fetch all la
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maybe gua brows.gif but the fact is my wife onli allowed me change mpv as next car lo..but i will try my best to persuade her to let me buy sedan car..hehe..most probably is civic or altis level..actuali i think wanna change to persona R b4 tis..but i doubt the proton will improve their quality lo..from wira to persona,i still facing a lot rattling sound..somemore persona more serious than wira se b4 lo..
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post Dec 14 2011, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Dec 14 2011, 06:49 PM)
his car admited SC overnight for through checkup the Kruk Kruk Krik Krik sound. sad.gif


Added on December 14, 2011, 6:51 pm
shocking.gif my pe now also 8.5l/100km WTF  doh.gif
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tis friday afternoon will sent to sc,then sat juz take d car..got three things wan to complaint

1) gearbox console got noise when v press it(i press my fren car and showroom car was dun have tis problem)
2) rear seat got kluk kluk and yiyi sound when pass uneven road..

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post Dec 14 2011, 09:02 PM

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No need big capacity or > 2000cc engine! Proton unveiled it’s Campro CFE engine with turbocharge system which have the performance equivalent with 2000cc engine , Variable valve timing and IAFM plus matched with it’s new Continuosly Variable Transmission CVT gearbox. The CFE turbo engine produced 138HP at lower 5000 RPM and 205Nm torque constantly between 2000-4000 RPM! Exora, Persona and Neo will be fitted with CFE soon.

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PROTON CAMPRO FUEL EFFICIENT CFE 1.6 TURBO ENGINE + CVT GEARBOX UNVEILED!
Campro CFE is a joint development program between Proton and Lotus Engineering. The key objectives of this program are to provide a means for performance and emissions upgrades to support Proton’s future products.
This new engine will be introduced in Proton’s mid size to large vehicle.

Valve Mechanism DOHC
4 Cylinders
76mmx86mm bore x stroke
1561 cc
9.5:1 compression ratio
103kw @ 5000RPM = 138hp @ 5000RPM
205Nm @ 2000-4000RPM
Multi POint Injection fuel system

According to Syed Zainal, this is another important issue as its current Campro engine is no longer valid after 2013.

“This new engine will be offered in our high-end models like the Exora, the current Persona and its replacement and may be in the Satria Neo too,” he said.

According to him, the CFE engine boasts a turbocharging unit, coupled to a new IAFM plus and a direct injection unit.

“Initially we wanted a 2-litre engine but the trend now is downsizing the capacity. The Campro CFE proves that it is doable – we have increased power and fuel economy while maintaining the engine capacity,” he said.
Syed Zainal also confirmed that Proton will soon cease using Mitsubishi’s gearboxes.
“We will use Getrag for manual transmission and a CVT system by Punch Motive (formerly the Belgian arm for ZF),” he said.



seems like persona will use CFE soon oh brows.gif
samwongjyhhorng
post Dec 14 2011, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Dec 14 2011, 09:03 PM)
hmm.gif a big passenger is inside........ laugh.gif


Added on December 14, 2011, 9:05 pm
someone said never .....never intrested again in Proton  whistling.gif
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yup..i juz intend share info wat i knw..tat means new model tat will launch on next year is not persona replacement..most probably proton will got 3 c segment car for sell..inspira,persona,new modal(maybe call tuah hmm.gif )
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post Dec 14 2011, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Dec 14 2011, 08:43 PM)
laugh.gif Lol.. That song also 3 years old d.

So is this included in ur list too? whistling.gif


Where no. 3? whistling.gif

Aiyo just live with some of the noises la.. If can fix, then fix.. If cannot fix, let it be lah.. Jz now sent my fren's father to Honda to collect his Accord.. Baru 2 months old car already masuk SC 3 times cos he complained bout undercarriage noise.. This is the 3rd time, previous 1st & 2nd time already they didnt manage to rectify the problem 100%..

I believe it's a matter of user experience.. There are more Proton owners in Malaysia than anywhere else in the world, of course there are more complaints associated with it here.. Not to also mention that QC in Proton is actually not that good.. So the effect is futher amplified tenfold..
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c how tis friday 1st loh..let the sc try to solve 1st..if cant solve,then juz live wit it lo vmad.gif
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post Dec 14 2011, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Dec 14 2011, 09:10 PM)
I am utterly disappointed.
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u means d performance of engine..but the toque is higher than inspira 2.0 somemore leh..juz the horsepower abit dissapointed lo..i juz saw from other forum..the cvt gearbox tat use on exora onli can stand 225nm torque max..tat means cant modify so much lo..and can stand 160bhp..
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post Dec 14 2011, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Dec 14 2011, 09:15 PM)
This Syed fella, I Dono what he wants la. Sekejap say P321 is Persona replacement, Sekejap say it's not.

I'm counting the possibility of the engine debuting in the last incarnation of Persona before the P321 is released as Persona replacement. Sort of like how Persona SE came out before PE.
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nothing cant happened in proton doh.gif
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post Dec 14 2011, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Dec 14 2011, 09:17 PM)
Get ur facts right

it is merely equivalent to 1.8l engine. even proton states so.

it does not have variable valve timing. it is a turbocharged bare campro engine.

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as latest info tat i saw from chinese forum,tats confirm will got variable valve timing,but not is continuous tongue.gif
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post Dec 14 2011, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(K.Lee @ Dec 14 2011, 09:20 PM)
This is the coolest myvi i ever seen in my life... Cooler than the myvi parked at my house parking, with a green turtle soft toy in it... rclxub.gif
hahaha... 2l then down sizing to 1.6? just now saw in paultan the performance of 1.8l... mana mahu percaya ni?  Campro fuel efficient...  whistling.gif nice marketing thumbup.gif
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according proton,new exora fuel comsuption is 8.3L/100km..90kmh constant driving doh.gif if reali wan buy campro turbo and intend to modify(exhaust,filter,LCP and etc),better dun take cvt if possible..tis cvt onli can last 225nm torque..ori oledi is 205nm,if modify then will reach the max level oledi..

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