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Akuma no Hana
post Nov 27 2011, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(GenericMav @ Nov 27 2011, 11:54 AM)
it sounds good with my lappy (at 100 volume), but of course, with amping this could juice some more from it potential  cool.gif
all i can say is, its good enough without amp, and gain some benefits from amp
take it slow, and enjoy your HD660  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(SimpleasABC @ Nov 27 2011, 12:04 PM)
ohsemm  rclxms.gif ... yeah for sure ill take it slow, since im in low budget now tongue.gif and a step enter audiophiles world
thanks for your great advice. gonna order the headphone this week  drool.gif
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Wow 100% that sure is loud for me even with a 250ohm headphone. Don't worry too much about amp first. They will still run fine without one with the bad effect that I have written for HD668B in my previous post. With a proper amplifier/ desktop amp they are not just only bringing a bit of potential, they might actually bring out their full potential depending on the match between the amp and the headphone. Try to avoid portable or battery power amp instead. If you do I find the minimum standard will be JDSLabs CMOY BB stock configuration for a high ohm headphone.

Try not to listen too loud especially from a headphone out from your pc. You might damage your ear instead. I've been living for about a year +- without a proper/ using portable, battery power amp for my 250ohm headphone and I find it to damage a bit of my hearing already. Try to listen softer and only blast them after you get an amplifier. I hope here you can find a bit information about the amplification. There are some information might have mistakes because it is too hard to find a proper and correct information in an audiophile world. Too much misconception that I'm trying to correct. Here's the link http://audioreviews-akuma.blogspot.com/201...-headphone.html

Basically headphone amp is unlike most speaker amp/ budget speaker amp, their main purpose is not to increase the volume though increased volume is one of the side effect you get from proper amplification. They are meant for improving the controls on the drivers/speaker instead thus increasing the amount of details, bass punch and certain matching can increase the speed/PRAT as well. In other words, headphone amp helps you reduce the your listening volume instead because you are hearing more details than not having a proper amplifier.

Sorry for bringing this old post from previous thread. But I think this is something that is important and should take note of.
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post Nov 27 2011, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(pcm123 @ Nov 27 2011, 03:05 PM)

oh , so if i wanna get a HD660 i dun need to get an amp first , since u mentioned its needs power supply somemore , must be expensive keke .
And i dun think i can hear the difference just yet hehe .
btw sifu , pls help advise , thanks ! from previous post.

QUOTE(pcm123 @ Nov 26 2011, 09:05 PM)
Hi sifus

My Rig: iphone 4 , pc
- Type of usage: mostly music
- File format: mp3
- Music genre: mostly pop, like tvxq, boa , snsd , celine dion, adele , muse , mj .
- Budget: less than 200
- Headphone/ earphone type: full headset , close or semi open i dunno the pros n cons , pls advice.
- Other requirements (if any): i m aiming for superlux 660d , wonder is there smth similar in performance n price n more suitable for my music type . Previously only owned a koss kcs 75.

Thanks for the help !
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just need some assurance keke . btw is this headset available at jalan pasar ? What area to pay attention while checking new product? and anyone know the warranty for hd660 ?

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Ya HD660 requires amplifier but you can get it later on. They are not necessary that expensive at all. On the lower end you can even get a dac amp combo from the fiio E10. On the mid range you have uber muzik TTD, audinst hud mx1 and many more.
It is hard to match the performance of superlux because they are probably one of the best budget performer out there. They don't put much money on looks or smoothing out the design. Most of their money went to sound improvement and speaker design. Yes they looks like cheap chinese stuffs, but their plastic is much harder than those known brand and can withstand more torture than most headphone.
You can go pasar road intrasco to test them out. But for purchase I think finding Trio is better as they are a bit cheaper.
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post Nov 28 2011, 01:08 PM

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Probably M50 is clearer. But for your genre I think TMA-1 is more suitable

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post Dec 1 2011, 02:21 AM

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QUOTE(hongrui @ Nov 30 2011, 07:38 PM)
ultimate combination? you want a USD10K + setup?

since you seem to prefer Senn, a possible setup will be:

Audio-GD DAC Ref 7.1 USD1900 http://www.audio-gd.com/PriceList.htm
Liquid Fire Amplifer USD3250 http://www.cavalliaudio.com/products/liquid-fire-amp/
Senn HD800 USD 1499 http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD800-Ove...e/dp/B001OTZ8DA
HD800 Upgrade Cable USD3000 http://doublehelixcables.com/store/index.p...&products_id=49

this is still exclusive of shipping costs and tuning / tweaks that can be done.
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I guess you should remove both the HD800 and amplifier out of it. The Ultimate combo currently needs to have Stax SR009 and third party electrostatic Amp that can match their performance. If you want to take it even further, you have to get the Take T H-2+ headphone and their transformer box and a good speaker amp. Yes, you read it right, they requires a speaker amplifier feed to their transformer box to power the headphones. Some said Take T H2 is one of the best headphone currently have aside from the Sennheiser legendary Orpheus, and they have a physicality in it that is so good that it even exceed the level of Stax. Try to imagine that.

Take T h2: http://www.taket.jp/h2/h2.html

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post Dec 1 2011, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(cokelatpanda @ Dec 1 2011, 12:00 PM)
Stax SR009, Impedance: 145k Ohms. Really? wow.  shocking.gif

T h2. mmmmmm...... ugly tongue.gif
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Ya, the funny think is that many high end stuffs looks ugly. Maybe they said Audiophiles prefer sound quality over fashion are true.

QUOTE(hongrui @ Dec 1 2011, 01:24 PM)
Stax Signature isn't for everyone. i tried a pretty good SR007 setup before, but it wasn't to my liking. anyway, it was just a theoretical exercise just to show how far along you can really go, if you want to spend. for me personally, if you give me that particular setup i proposed, i still would have sold away the HD800 in favor of a T1 or LCD-3.

each to his own poison, as i like to say.
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Ya of course. He did said assuming that budget is of no constraint what is the Ultimate Combo. Aside from sound preference the stax should be one of the few ultimate combo currently have to offered. Anyway man now you prefer your T1 more or LCD2?
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post Dec 1 2011, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(hongrui @ Dec 1 2011, 08:15 PM)
money no constrain i also wouldn't recommend Stax. Unless you tried and really liked the signature. i had friends who tried to go Stax, spent and sold and finally came back to Dynamics, while others stay on with Stax.

T1 vs LCD-2 i've got no opinion yet. i'm just burning in the LCD-2 now, slight changes here and there but gotta wait till the xmas weekend when i get back home to my home rig and spend some quality time with them both together.
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Of course sound preference also plays another role. Whats ur current setup and whats ur home setup?
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post Dec 1 2011, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(hongrui @ Dec 1 2011, 09:50 PM)
right now i'm running a burning in farm on my floor and using the LCD-2 as speakers.

source - Ipod Classic into Hp-P1

1. HP-P1 Headphone out into DUNU Hades
2. HP-P1 line out into predator amp into se530x6 with prototype cable
3. HP-P1 line out into TTD, into DUNU EX150 and LCD-2 rev2.

home setup

laptop -> Audio-Gd DI / Blu ray player -> NFB2 -> Uber Muzik Big Tube amp -> T1 / LCD-2 rev2
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Seems like your source is quite well done. That's why you dare to buy so many high end stuffs. If you were to choose, you think which is your most restricting thing right now?

QUOTE(CoolBoy89 @ Dec 1 2011, 10:33 PM)
Below 400 and with quality bass..try Denon AH-D501 or Sennheiser HD4x8 series. Have a look at Beyerdynamic DT231 pro too.
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Those two also can be considered. So it falls into your sound preferences. The superlux surely will have a technical level / sound quality that is hard to be beaten by most mid range headphone. The only part they loose is the smoothness part.

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post Dec 5 2011, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(arslow @ Dec 5 2011, 11:06 PM)
the thing is,i scared later i get it but ffind out that the volume is too low,or it consumes too much power,my player cant drive,things like that and that would make me kill myself edi lol(700 for earfon no small deal wei sweat.gif )

I guess i need to go find out more about this iem.Have always thought logitech is not the company to go for audio lol.Din noe they have such a great model~
Honestly,have been hearing tf10 mentioned everywhere,but din noe its from logitech doh.gif
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Logitech does not own Ultimate Ears when the Triple fi was produced. It was the product of the era before the company was sold to Logitech by our famous Jerry Harvey. Ultimate ears higher ends still hold up well. It is the lower ends that you should worry about, the RM69 one and those around the cheaper price range.
Just be careful, It might be fake or the warranty is not exactly one year. Many people have bought the triple fi on the black friday to be resold to the market again. Basically they still earn a lot from it. However try to buy from shop that come with genuine warranty. Plus, Jaben can help you settle your warranty both to and return free of charge. So paying a little extra give you a peace of mind.
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post Dec 9 2011, 01:32 AM

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Information is already available on their uk website. Launch date not sure yet. But the price is far more expensive than their current shure srh940. The two should be their new flagship.
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QUOTE(shiki_arc @ Feb 28 2012, 01:21 AM)
Okay, will survey prices for AD 300 and i'll keep T500 in mind. I somehow dont think using semi open cans might work well in library or classrooms. whistling.gif  cool.gif  So i'll rule out the AKG-K99?
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Try to avoid ath t series including t500 when it come to sound quality. Look into ad and a series instead. I've tested T500 and they sound terrible.
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QUOTE(noonies_naruto @ Mar 7 2012, 03:33 AM)
hi guys. currently rocking the Sony XB700s. really appreciate the seismic bass I'm getting from it after i pair with only the E5. XB700s literally shake my head. I know its not good sweat.gif but its not like I listen long hours to those seismic bass! (or do I?)

I am considering an upgrade. Havent got enough yet but am saving up for it. probably wanna buy the XB1000s. im thinking bigger drivers get even more subwoofer-ish sound.. but i wonder why people say xb1000 bass not boomy as its lower models? not amp enough? impedance also 24ohm very low what~ if only got test unit somewhere.

in the search of the bassiest boomiest royal rumble headphone out there.
*been researching on athpro700mkII, some users ain't so happy with it when compare with XB700s.. its as if headfonia review not so reliable..inb4 mana bassnya pondan.jpg*
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You can try the Hisoundaudio PoPo which I just got. The bass is really extreme. They don't only boom, they can even rumble. The only thing you won't get is the air blowing your body and your body shaking. I think it is more suited for basshead than natural bass users. Electronica and dubstep user should try it out. Trance and rock user should back up. And the price is just $60-$90 only. Tested with Fiio E5 no problem. Try this and see if your headphone is fast enough and good enough to handle them or not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUGzY-ihqWc&feature=related

By the way the 24ohm doesn't mean it is easy to drive. Sometime spec can be deceiving or won't act as it should be due to other factors.

QUOTE(NoobHacker @ Mar 7 2012, 08:58 PM)
after tons of research i can't decide between AKG Q701 and Denon D2000, my left side around 1.5 meter have television, almost 24hours on, and my backside around 3 meter have people, must not hear anything if possible, i need subbass but don't need bass in pub

Q701 selling at $250 at amazon and d2000 selling at $300, i',m going to buy from there directly, any opinions?
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Denon D2000. 1st it got bass. 2nd I've tested Q701 and although they are rated at low impedance, they are much harder to drive than my DT880 250 ohm. If you are buying directly from amazon.com maybe you can help support my site by purchasing through the amazon link. You just click the link, find your products and buy like usual and I'll get paid. My site URL http://www.geeksreviews.net/


Added on March 9, 2012, 3:17 am
QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Mar 8 2012, 10:01 PM)
My Rig: iPod touch 4, xperia X10
- Type of usage: Music
- Budget: MYR 500~600
- Headphone/ earphone type: IEMs Dual BA driver

Considering TDK BA 200,
Any other good dual BA driver?
I know Sonic Gear Earpump™ Pure, Creative Aurvana, Brainwavz B2, Sony XBA-2, WESTONE UM2, Shure se425, Q-Jays, DBA-02, UE700, SF5Pro, Fischer Audio DBA-02, MEElectronics A161

I know SE215 are single dynamic drive, does this good? It has Detachable Cable tongue.gif  thumbup.gif
BA driver expensive especially come with multiple unit, why single dynamic driver IEM also can reach RM1000++ like Senn, AKG, AT... etc.


Added on March 8, 2012, 10:30 pmI also interest to try universal dynamic n BA hybrid IEM like audiofly  AF78
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I think you are over concerned about BA vs Dynamic. More BA doesn't mean it is better or at least beats a single dynamics. I've been using JH16PRO with 8 drivers for months now and I still doesn't feel it is in anyway superior than a dynamic. Of course it is still worth the price tag, but they still have some issue related to BA and multi BA and even hybrid also will show.

Try to find a good company that have good reputation in their BA lineup and not just buy any randoms brand BA. They may use the same drivers model but they may not share the same designs, implementation and tuning.

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post Mar 9 2012, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Mar 9 2012, 08:35 AM)

Added on March 9, 2012, 3:17 am
I think you are over concerned about BA vs Dynamic. More BA doesn't mean it is better or at least beats a single dynamics. I've been using JH16PRO with 8 drivers for months now and I still doesn't feel it is in anyway superior than a dynamic. Of course it is still worth the price tag, but they still have some issue related to BA and multi BA and even hybrid also will show.

Try to find a good company that have good reputation in their BA lineup and not just buy any randoms brand BA. They may use the same drivers model but they may not share the same designs, implementation and tuning.

Thank 4 the reply smile.gif
Do u think TDK is a good IEM maker?
I u haven try TDK BA 200 u can visit Dot Life @ cap square
Demo available
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Most likely the TDK BA200 will follow the sony, creative and sonic gear where they are marketed towards the mainstream market. So I don't believe that they will sound that good but still will have their own value in the mainstream market.

Judging from what you are searching, I believe you are looking for a clear, detailed and clean sounding IEM and hence you are looking for BA instead of dynamic. Try to narrow down your search to audiophile brands and find the one that suits your music preference and taste. Just give any audiophile IEM a try to get the taste how good music should sound like. If you find that you don't like it you can resell it or keep it and buy another mass market products. There is nothing wrong with not owning an audiophile products. Sometime I find that mass market product has their unique taste that the audiophile brand don't have.

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QUOTE(victorian @ Mar 9 2012, 10:17 PM)
Price wise , spec wise . Maybe will get this . Can I know whats the difference between a rm 2 k headphone with a rm 100 headphone . Because for me it's about the same quality
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If you hear no difference then no difference it is.

On audiophile term, the difference is that you will be getting better refinement, details and resolution, smoother sound, ability to show more instruments at the same time in each note, and many more.

It is not about how much you pay but the target market. You should look at audiophile brand instead of expensive products such as beats. Try go Jaben and try the beats studio and other headphone that cost lesser and you will know what I mean.
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post Mar 12 2012, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 12 2012, 01:21 PM)
thanks for the remm ...I dont use inline mic ... control wise is optional for me


Added on March 12, 2012, 1:22 pm

What about Shure SE215 and Klipsch S4 ??? are they good ???
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Its sad that hisoundaudio popo is not available in malaysia if not u can give it a try as well. If u try it in jaben dont forget to give crossroads woody 2 a try as well. The simplest explanation to woody 2 is that it sounds like a hifi.

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