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post Apr 24 2012, 01:25 PM

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beerbottle is crazy for salamanders lol.

i am crazy for archer fish only tongue.gif
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post Apr 24 2012, 01:32 PM

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hehe.. this thread is soo alive... rclxms.gif
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post Apr 24 2012, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(broken_string @ Apr 24 2012, 01:02 PM)
wat is zho-deng brace ?

the brace is at the left and right side or the front and back side one ?
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IT'S FRONT TO BACK
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post Apr 24 2012, 07:54 PM

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mine is like that too... totally ruined the view lol..
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post Apr 24 2012, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(genielee_83 @ Apr 24 2012, 06:12 PM)
IT'S FRONT TO BACK
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tat is as good as useless ohmy.gif
to be safe, i would suggest u to buy two 4ft x 2inch 6mm glass and silicon it at the front and back.

u can remove the horizontal brace coz it doesn't help much.

since you are keeping strong predatory fish like toman which may grew big, its better to be safe than sorry.

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in my case, since im going to put only half of the volume, any easy way to remove the bracer?
my razor cant even fit inside the gap and slice the silicone hmm.gif

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post Apr 24 2012, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Apr 24 2012, 08:12 PM)
in my case, since im going to put only half of the volume, any easy way to remove the bracer?
my razor cant even fit inside the gap and slice the silicone hmm.gif

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use a smaller razor loh lolz..
but since u fill up half volume i think its fine.

one easy way to check is by filling up to 80-90%,
take a look from the top and see whether it got curve up in the middle of the tank or not?
or use measuring tape to check left right and middle to see whether they are of the same length or not.

its very dangerous esp genie's tank which is juz 5mm. if got ppl in front when it breaks sweat.gif



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post Apr 24 2012, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(broken_string @ Apr 24 2012, 01:25 PM)
beerbottle is crazy for salamanders lol.

i am crazy for archer fish only tongue.gif
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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Apr 24 2012, 01:32 PM)
hehe.. this thread is soo alive...  rclxms.gif
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Yes it is. smile.gif

QUOTE(broken_string @ Apr 24 2012, 08:03 PM)
tat is as good as useless ohmy.gif
to be safe, i would suggest u to buy two 4ft x 2inch 6mm glass and silicon it at the front and back.

u can remove the horizontal brace coz it doesn't help much.

since you are keeping strong predatory fish like toman which may grew big, its better to be safe than sorry.
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I've a 3ft x 1.5 x 1ft tank with 6mm glass, non-curve tank. Is there any other way to reinforce the tank without using front to back braces? Or without using any braces at all? (the stupid braces prevent big, one-pieced driftwood from being placed into the tank...)
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post Apr 24 2012, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(broken_string @ Apr 24 2012, 08:42 PM)
use a smaller razor loh lolz..
but since u fill up half volume i think its fine.

one easy way to check is by filling up to 80-90%,
take a look from the top and see whether it got curve up in the middle of the tank or not?
or use measuring tape to check left right and middle to see whether they are of the same length or not.

its very dangerous esp genie's tank which is juz 5mm. if got ppl in front when it breaks  sweat.gif
but mine is 4mm cry.gif and its 2ft tank

QUOTE(beer8bottles @ Apr 24 2012, 09:10 PM)
biggrin.gif
Yes it is. smile.gif
pity this nice thread is dead before notworthy.gif respect to the new spammers~ woot
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post Apr 24 2012, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(beer8bottles @ Apr 24 2012, 09:10 PM)
biggrin.gif
Yes it is. smile.gif
I've a 3ft x 1.5 x 1ft tank with 6mm glass, non-curve tank. Is there any other way to reinforce the tank without using front to back braces? Or without using any braces at all? (the stupid braces prevent big, one-pieced driftwood from being placed into the tank...)
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3ft tank wif 6mm is safe enough without brace. only longer tank with thin glass need brace.

QUOTE(LuQEE @ Apr 24 2012, 09:28 PM)
but mine is 4mm  cry.gif and its 2ft tank

lol. 2ft tank with 4mm is normal la.
standard size. since 2ft tanks is not tat high so its fine.

pity this nice thread is dead before  notworthy.gif respect to the new spammers~ woot
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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Apr 24 2012, 09:28 PM)
but mine is 4mm  cry.gif and its 2ft tank


pity this nice thread is dead before  notworthy.gif respect to the new spammers~ woot
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Yup, yup. I guess I didn't join ealier because I didn't know what category my tank fell under. To me, it was a half filled tank with some plants and driftwood. It's good to know it was a riparium.

By the way, this thread is so, so, so, so ~"poison-ing"~ drool.gif
In a good way. smile.gif
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post Apr 25 2012, 05:43 AM

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QUOTE(broken_string @ Apr 24 2012, 08:03 PM)
tat is as good as useless ohmy.gif
to be safe, i would suggest u to buy two 4ft x 2inch 6mm glass and silicon it at the front and back.

u can remove the horizontal brace coz it doesn't help much.

since you are keeping strong predatory fish like toman which may grew big, its better to be safe than sorry.
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dont understand. whats front and back >> blink.gif
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post Apr 25 2012, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(genielee_83 @ Apr 25 2012, 05:43 AM)
dont understand. whats front and back >> blink.gif
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the brace is install vertically at the front and the back.
check the picture i attach.


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post Apr 25 2012, 10:38 AM

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Does anyone know what kind of shop i can go to for a customized aquarium? because normally fish stores overcharge by a lot!
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post Apr 25 2012, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(ryj17 @ Apr 25 2012, 10:38 AM)
Does anyone know what kind of shop i can go to for a customized aquarium? because normally fish stores overcharge by a lot!
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if u want to have your own customized aquarium, u will have to prepare to fork out money mate.
doesnt matter u order direct from LFS or glass shop, its goona be costly for non standard tank.

If u wana know why let me explain to you in a simple example, the figure are juz a rough estimation for your understanding only.

let say one BIG piece of glass can make three (3) 3 Feet Tanks.
now because of your customized tank this piece of glass can only make one (1) 3ft tank plus your customize tank.
so who is going to bear the off cut ? obviously you tongue.gif

in short, you prolly have to pay the price for 2x3ft tanks due to the material used/wasted.
and then the manpower, for normal standard tanks they already have the frame where they juz need to slide the glass in and silicone it but for ur customize tank prolly they dont have the measurement so extra effort is needed to complete it.

which is why its much more costly compare to normal standard one, and of coz the LFS would want to earn some profit as well so prolly that will add another 10-20% of the cost.
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QUOTE(broken_string @ Apr 24 2012, 09:59 PM)
3ft tank wif 6mm is safe enough without brace.  only longer tank with thin glass need brace.
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are you sure that 6mm is enough?
i using online glass thickness calculator, standard 3feet would need at least 8mm for braceless tank.
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post Apr 25 2012, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(weijie @ Apr 25 2012, 12:41 PM)
are you sure that 6mm is enough?
i using online glass thickness calculator, standard 3feet would need at least 8mm for braceless tank.
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why not ?
for terrariums we only fill up half or less of the total height of the tanks.
alot of 3ft tanks in the market not even 8mm nowadays and most only have side brace.
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QUOTE(broken_string @ Apr 25 2012, 12:48 PM)
why not ?
for terrariums we only fill up half or less of the total height of the tanks.
alot of 3ft tanks in the market not even 8mm nowadays and most only have side brace.
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hmm. i see, then better make front panel only half of height? it would be better view.
ya, standard 3feet tank in market is mostly 6mm, some even cheating make 4mm glass, which is very very risky.
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post Apr 25 2012, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(weijie @ Apr 25 2012, 01:02 PM)
hmm. i see, then better make front panel only half of height? it would be better view.
ya, standard 3feet tank in market is mostly 6mm, some even cheating make 4mm glass, which is very very risky.
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yeah, that will be very nice for this type of tanks but to do that normally have to custom order it.
for existing tanks very hard or troublesome to cut off the panel and then silicone it back.

so normally i will just use standard tanks and fill up half the water,
but there is another problem as the dry portion of the tank will become blur overtime sad.gif

yeah there are unethical seller outside doing stuff like tat,
even with brace a 4mm is juz a time bomb waiting to explode sweat.gif

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QUOTE(broken_string @ Apr 25 2012, 01:08 PM)
so normally i will just use standard tanks and fill up half the water,
but there is another problem as the dry portion of the tank will become blur overtime  sad.gif
so to get rid of that blur~ is it the same as cleaning a planted tank, by scrubbing with a sponge?

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