hi guys

i need your advise regards to strata titled landed property. will it be worthwhile to purchase the unit with bigger land area?

i like bigger land but i understand that we cannot make structural extension with the extra land. so will it be unwise to invest in extra piece of land that cannot be used for extension? example extra 2000sf of land that may cost a few hundred thousand more than a standard unit

Can go for extension if the extension comply to law. However, this is still a grey area. Some people they extend without approval from local council, some do. So it all depends what you want to extend and how big it is.

Bigger land of course better value la when you sell. You can build a small balinese hut, fish pond, small garden etc which will lift your property outlook thus directly increase your property value.

i saw a case before, do extension on a strata title land, end up caught by MPPJ, and demolish the extension part. what for

better buy a landed wit individual title...

but i thought landed with strata title are mostly those gated guarded properties , and it is most welcomed property type these days..

town house also strata title. some gated guarded landed house like symphony hill also strata tiltle

got some property gated n provide security so tats individual title

Yes but have to pay maintenance fees .....

Best is just fenced up and guarded by security guards

wat's the difference between "guarded by security guards" and "gated guarded properties"?

simply put...'guarded by security guards' - .. mostly applied to mass majority of landed property (free/lease hold) here in kv..residence association's initiation most of the time, they hire security guards and setup a pondok at the entrance(s) in their area.

'gated guarded' - key word being 'gated' , and mostly are strata title even if it is landed... desapark city - THE one symbolic project that started the concept?

Do you refer - Gated = with perimeter fencing?

yes same understanding as mine..of course I will stand corrected.

Yes............agree.
Don't get caught unnecessary

For landed strata title, you will need to sign another Deed of Covenants which will say that you are not allow to do any external structure changes or even painting. It really depends on how well the management looks after the place. For those who are strict will probably force you to comply and they will definitely win in court. Nothing to do with local council.

Aiya boss, now i saw your post, i need to apologize to TS. I saw it as an individual title. If strata title, one has to adhere to the management corporation house rule similar with those apartment or condo, and as what @michaellee has said. My apology again, TS.

i am looking at g&g type. there are some development that claims to be g&g but with individual title such as the project from mct "kingsley hills". as i know individual titled home also have their own disadvantage.

So, now landed properties with strata title more valuable than individual title?

So, strata titled properties are the true g&g?

Landed properties such as Jade Hills, Lake Edge are not true g&g?

some landed individual title do have DMC...

individual title always has the value than the strata title... just like freehold always has the value than leasehold

why do you say so?

No worries mate. But one thing I am quite keen on find out is if the roads, accessories parcels within the landed strata area would be part of the share unit? If so, your actual land area might be a lot bigger the one the developer hand over to you.

strata title alot of restriction, cannot extension, some cant even cant hang your clothes in any visible area.... buying landed house with such alot of restriction, what for?

this type of security not reliable

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Added on December 1, 2011, 8:59 pmthe other way round because strata landed is exclusive

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Added on December 1, 2011, 9:02 pmrestriction is good, uniform landscape, not chabalang

This post has been edited by Maverick2011: Dec 1 2011, 09:02 PM

If my understanding is correct, the advantage for strate title over individual title is if anyone (somehow there are such ppl) refuse/ignore in making monthly payment, he can be barred from entering the area.

strata title for landed is actually same as condo, with proper G&G.
all properties within the boundary (except those things within your unit's land area) are share and belong to the residents, even the extra vacant land, swimming pool, playground, garden, drainage, lamp post, road, and plants are all have to maintained by the residents.
just that strata landed in malaysia still very rare, majority of us still cant accept the restrictions in DMC, like no extension (even if you bought with a bigger "footprint" unit), no outdoor painting, no pets, no illegal parking, no car wash in front your house, no clothes hanging and blablabla... and also, the maintenance fee & sunking fund, base on built up too, a unit with 3000sf built up have to pay more than a thousand/mth is not a surprise.
all residents are bound by the DMC law, whoever did not make the payment will not able to sell their unit until the overdue amount + agreed interest settled. being barred from entering the area or not? i hav no idea.
from what i know in DPC, foreigners appreciate strata title than individual title as more neat and more uniform, and also more friendly kind of environment (no fencing maybe?).
just my 2 cents, any mislead please correct me, we are learning..

i dont think can be bared! maybe access card disabled, electricity disabled.

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Added on December 12, 2011, 9:25 pmmaybe the foreigners like strata bcos no garbage man in the area??

This post has been edited by samuelazz: Dec 12 2011, 09:25 PM

strata titles (also for landed) is governed by the terms and conditions in the DMC.

now why the hassle? it is so that every one in the community plays their part in the maintenance of the neighborhood. usually this is necessary in creating/maintenance of a lifestyle. you can't do that with individual titles as no laws bounds one owner in participating in maintaining the common areas (unless they enter into another agreement altogether). Strata titles also mean the areas can be marked as private for residence (like gardens, roads etc). In an individual titled area, all other common areas are accessible by the public by law

it is not true for a strata title property no extension is possible. usually the DMC will govern this and you will need to obtain permission from the property managing body.

as for the effect it has on the property, really, strata/individual title is pretty much the same.

i didnt know that extension can be done with permission from property managing body. are you sure? what if your new neighbour files a complain about your extension? does it mean it needs to be taken down?

you need to get all necessary permissions before starting of course in accordance to your DMC. it is true some DMC specify restrictions to extensions - read it if you are in doubt. if you have all the permissions and you are following all the rules as specified, you are pretty safe

Actually, I have never experienced a true strata landed property before. Is it better for living that individual title? besides your house (say 22x70), do you have to pay maintenance fee for the road, 5 foot way, etc? All the maintenance are done by in house gardeners and cleaners? Like the common areas/facilities in a condo?

How much more do you think it cost in maint fees compared with normal titled g&g....in terms of percentage?

Do you pay the same assessment fees as non strata properties in your area?

All the time I believe that the yearly assessment fee is for rubbish collection, road maintenance, street lighting and drains cleaning by municipal.

any supporting documents?

strada title requires longer time to transfer the name by land office compares to individual titles. Most of the time, at least 3 to 6 months. If individual, 1 to 2 months

it only takes longer period but still prices wont affect much

so, will ur unit left kosong early to ready for the new buyer? means idling for 3 to 6 months?

or keep tenanted until the strada title received? Then u only passed the key for new buyer? But will the new buyer not happy coz S&P signed since last 6 months? I dont think bank will release any money if the ownership still havent transfer.

correct if im wrong. Strada title and leasehold always giving headache in ownership and transaction

This post has been edited by peri peri: Jul 3 2012, 12:45 PM

For some vendors...they will still rent it out after they received deposit from the purchaser cos not yet finished all the procedure to change the ownership... dont get me wrong, i do agree with u that strata title will be giving the purchaser headache but still the price is not really affected...

price shouldn't be adjusted. coz u offer i take. haha. when people speculate, what price offered also sapu.

yes ur right

townhouse = landed with strada . any others?

I bought a strate title townhouse from auction not long ago. of course the it took for title transfer was much longer than leasehold/individual title.

I don't pay any maintenance though, the developer doesn't collect any. It's not guarded and gated in any way. The unit I bought was extended at the rear too.

Ermm what was your question again ts?

Sorry to bring this thread back from the dead - it seems like this concept of landed properties with strata titles is gaining momentum.

I found a Malaysian BAR article from 2007 explaining some of the issues surrounding strata titles, just thought I'd share it here:

http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/conveyancin...date=2009-07-01

Under landed strata title, is the street lights electricity bill paid by state majlis perbandaran or residence?

depends street light is in the master title or not.

usually like for desa parkcity the lightings all paid under maintenance fee

Just wondering why we still paying assessment tax, looks like we are paying double for the maintenance...even though included in the master title, is there a way to get local state to carry out the maintenance and reduce our maintenance fees?

Whatever within the compound of the strata property, then it will be maintained by the JMB/MC of the property because the land is not belonged to local council.

That's why it can be gated because it is considered "private property".

Similar to apartment case.
Whatever rectification/repairing cost within your unit, you pay yourself.
While for rectification in common area, like corridor, garden etc., JMB/MC will bare the cost.

What about water bills.. currently living in a condo, the water bills more than individual titled property... Will this be the same for strata landed where water bills will be more?