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 V4. Swiftlet Keeping Discussions, All About Swiftlet Keeping Industry

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tiger chong
post Jun 15 2012, 05:26 PM

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i just sell my 200kg++bn at rm1300...so sad
tiger chong
post Jun 20 2012, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(kohloh @ Jun 20 2012, 09:56 PM)
jus ned a little bit of time to proof things,,,,
those wanna dream..keep on dreaming,,,,,
or u wanna call omar...019 332 1002.....(does he know wat is nest??he only knows BN&his 400M loan say is to help nest but fr G13,,)
last friday 1 famous brand selling only nest in HK with 21 outlet in HK close 15 of it outlet saying cannot tahan,,,,
u guys want detail right,,,early april few MAL players landed over 500kg raw into CN & feels funny then went to CN at may fr a look tat all stock still there & not selling so till today no payment has been collected,,,,

u want more detail u go check yr own,,,,,dont jus shit here & say agent con u fr lower prices,,,,
u can do yr praying as much as u like,,,,
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agree 100%
tiger chong
post Jun 21 2012, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(philoswiflet @ Jun 21 2012, 03:37 AM)
How is it that our new member who came in with his first post recently stating that"i just sell my 200kg++bn at rm1300...so sad" suddenly came in with his second post but with his posts indicator informing us that it was his 5th posting? Where may I ask is his 2, 3, 4 posts? Its a little fishy...

And may I ask why such a highly successful farmer who had 200+ kg of nest to sell could only sell for rm1,300 when we know that a productive farm or farms will have a good portion of nests in higher grade form known in Mandarin as Yen-zhan (full cup nests) that go for a few hundred rm more than the second grade of nests. As far as I know, the second grade of nests is selling for several hundred rm above rm1,300... I know because I asked around recently and even sold off a portion to tide my finances over.

The current dismal market for producers/sellers reminds me of the old cowboy films in which a nightmare of cowboys driving a large herd of cattle to market encountered a stampede. A stampede is when the cattle became frightened of something (rattle snakes, lightning or gunshot, etc) and would rush headlong in a body and the cowboys would had to try and gather the escaping herd back... its akin to the the punters caught in a stock market correction and would distressed the situation further by selling even at very low prices just so to get out of the sinking market.

The current dismal situation will not last forever but how long it will last and how soon it can recover is anybody's guess. But please lets be frank and not throw out irrational statements so as to further frighten or demoralized sincere farmers who are already feeling miserable at the actual situations in the bird nests trade.
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hi all, ya i am new in posting reply but i already keep reading this thread for a long time already. im not very good in english ,that y i dont like to post. rclxub.gif not all bh farmer study so high or so clever to write so long discussions like our member did in this thread vmad.gif . i feel shame for my self sad.gif . i and my father own several bh at kedah state. we can harvest +- 40kg a month. i already keep my bn for a few month already and decide to sell part of it , bcoz i think the hope to the price to going up is so small already. actually the buyer just give me rm1250 for all gred bcoz he say i have so many broken bn.
tiger chong
post Jun 22 2012, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(kohloh @ Jun 21 2012, 06:36 PM)
So easy mea??hav u ever declare nest into CN before...open yr eyes & hav a look at below wat extra u hav to pay not include tax my fren,,i dont know a chinese wording but tats wat i pay when declaring into CN & go tru every things,,,
CN is a communis country u think they will make it so easy fr u guys,even US talk cock they also do donno only,,
last time when we declare nest we can declare our nest prices at $4000/1kg or $6000/kg to pay the 17% but now new rules set by them "ANY BIRD NEST MUST BE DECLARE ABOVE RMB$30,000/1KG OF VALUE TO PAY TAX"take tat,,,die or no die,,,,
                        燕窝报关费 (5 kg)
费用名称费用类型应收金额摘要
报关费 营业款$300
换单代办费营业款$100
外贸代理费营业款$1200min
三检费 代垫$302
消毒费 代垫26
增值税 代垫$25500(5KG)
滞报金 代垫$173
三检代办费营业款$100
进境动植物检验检疫许可证营业款$300
企业备案营业款$2500一次性收费
备案工本费 代垫$200一次性收费
查验场地费代垫$850含电子锁
仓储费代垫$3210含扣货场地堆存费1750
短驳费代垫$150
tiger,,
" i feel shame for my self  . i and my father own several bh at kedah state."

tiger,if u feel shame then me mus be kanasai english lo,,,,so u kedahan .so u mus been to tis location in SP kiampin,,photo below & u know who tis old man is loh.I help him set up his processing many years ago as the sign board hav 5 workers is e see foo working there tat last time works fr me even WW also met them before when he visited mine over east here.Did u try selling to e old man or u ned his contact or his nephew tat handle every things there.Meaby better lea?Some guy here think tat i double post using others name as he boh song when i break out some truth&bad news tat i really pity him & ask him sleep early to prevent heart attack,He can always get enough sleep then post when wake.
Not some bad news make u cant sleep ma??then better i dont post lo,,,,
 
ChanK,,
          Kohloh,
Really one fella can Macau the whole industry?
do u think he really care & know bout tis industry??his fella jus draw up a plan tat can get him an $400M gov loan(same lik NFC)& he dont really care much weather u guys die or not.Jus once CN approve MAL to export he wil get wat he want frm gov Agri funds as many stupit excuse,,,talk to him many times dy but u know those BN guys lo,,,he dont care e shit weather yr nest sell or not his target only after CN say yes he gets wat he wanted fr....got cow ,no cow not e matter.....

Oppss,,,forget to burn another kakies here..
WW""Oh Boy! When you post that 200Kgs only Rm1300/Kg and I was thinking maybe I will buy cos even 10 days ago, I was offered Rm1500 for corners and your's must be a blessing if I am a buyer with mostly AB, I think. Just imagine, at Rm2K, I shall make quite alot for a long Holiday @ China, my @2nd. Home...joking only....no news to my wife or I sleep in the hall tonight.

abang i know u bery like Holiday@China@Dongguan & yr home town gangs too but wat to do .After few years of opening shops at CN now hav to tutup aready.U know loh after few years opening shops& doing thier best there did they manage to sell over 100Kgs after few years time??U know i know la,U think so easy mea.
Farmers wit over hundreds of KGs keeping is normal now days & we hav those guys in every small town like u&mine area.some newbies thinks tat like last time very fast recover even flock out few Ms to collect amounts of Tons now r sweating&kaki shaking aready.
Tat day u say we vote u as our MAL minister of nest i setuju,so tat u can manage dialog wit CN minister tat we hav meting every month aka China@dongguan,,,,,,,,hahahaha....kanasai,,,
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izzit the buiding is datuk beh tua pasar building hmm.gif
tiger chong
post Jun 22 2012, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(kohloh @ Jun 22 2012, 05:11 PM)
u want i provide u his contact lo,,,so u can sell better ma....so near yr places if good nex time u belanja  me dark wood lo,,,,we bring WW tooo
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my father already sell the bh house there ,that he buy from datuk beh.the bh that downstairs rent to nasi kandar 1 ,the corner lot.


Added on June 22, 2012, 10:55 pm
QUOTE(philoswiflet @ Jun 22 2012, 06:54 PM)
Hi Tiger,
Sorry if you feel offended by my earlier feedback. However, I have a few suggestions for your considerations:

You should try to find more BN purchasers so that you have wider choices of people to trade with; such as the big time player provided by a fellow forummer.

You should take measures to improve the quality of your BN. For example, you mentioned about broken nests... one thing to do is to harvest the nests more carefully, preferably by climbing up a ladder instead of using a long stick with knife attached while standing on the ground. This will take more time but the harm to the nests will be lessen.

And the nests might be broken because of low humidity; not enough moisture which result in ragged nests. For best result, use accurate and reliable hygrostat to control the humidifiers to release the optimum level of moisture into the BH.

To harvest the nests as soon as possible and sell them soon as when the nests turned yellowish, the prices will be somewhat affected depending on how yellow they are.

You might want to clean the farms more often as accumulation of large amount of guano will cause the nests to turn yellowish after a period.
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This post has been edited by tiger chong: Jun 22 2012, 10:55 PM

 

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