It is not corruption that we converted our shop into bird's keeping. it is THE only way for us to make a living when we can't find anyone to rent out our shops and even if we do business in the area, we will be out in 6 months times as the income will not be enough to even paid the salary of our workers.

Ask one of the pioneer, Datuk B, who have so many abandoned shops that he developed and can't sell out, rotten, grow fungus, polluting the whole town view, damaging the image of Malaysia. And converting them into bird's keeping hostel saved his life.

and the story goes on n on. Go into small towns, i am not talking about Petaling Street town in the middle of KL, or Jalan Ipoh, or Selayang which i do agree not a proper way to have a farm ( but why they do it in the first place??, one of them rent it out and ends up not able to collect rental and one of them, can't rent it out eventhough it is in the middle of the city.

and the story goes on.

though we have many bad apples in our own trade, and the only way is what WW said, off the sound. and i think we have no other choice either. thats the only way out. we will proposed it to our local association.

I think the selangor govt is arrogant as they never go in and research what is the effects of asking thousands of us to move in three years as what they think is important is to get rid of complaints.

Giving three years for us to move, what happen when we move? we don't have money to invest in buying a land, build a new building. We are stuck with our shop and without income, we have to worry about our loan payment, our childrens education expenses, our family expenses. U think we still have money to invest in a new place?

If we closed it down,u think we can rent it out? if we can rent it out and make enough to support to pay the loan installment, we will do that.

Go out, and take a look at all those shops that converted into bird keeping hostel, Why they do it? for fun? to disturb peoples? to test out govt?






It is because we can't do anything with it, thts why!!.

We are no Rich Kids from Rich family or born with a golden spoon..

If you can't think liked that, You are arrogant. You need to change.

10 years ago, when we started this business, the whole economy is DEAD. and 10 years later, The economy is good? some yes, but majority is DEAD too. You want to harm it further by doing that? You are damn stupid and arrogant.

If i am the selangor MB, i will allow it to continue with condition that No more Sounds pollutions meaning no more complaints and to review the license every three years.

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Added on January 31, 2012, 4:50 pmoh..ONE MORE THING.

YOU KNOW WHY WE KEEP BUILDING FARMS IN TOWN??
At the 1st GHP Training in shah alam, THE GOVT ENCOURAGE US TO INVEST TO BUY SHOPS AND CONVERT IT INTO FARMS. THE GOVT SAID IT IS CHEAPER TO DO THAT AND IT HELPS THE ECONOMY AS MANY ABANDONED SHOPS IN MALAYSIA. ANYONE TOOK ANY VIDEO'S ON THAT DAY, PLEASE BRING IT FORWARD AND SHOW IT.

WE ARE THE VICTIMS.







C WHAT HAPPEN AT KELANTAN ..... VOTE PAS LAH ....WHY DAP ??????      WKWKWKWKKWK[COLOR=green]

Ok, now datuk liow also said that no one should build any farms until new ruling comes out and all existing farms might not able to keep operating.

It means BN too will follow what keadilan n dap do to wipe out all 50,000 farms in Malaysia.

[THEY ALL AGREED TO TRANSFER AND HANDOVER THE WHOLE BIRD'S NESTS INDUSTRY TO WEALTHY, RICH MALAYSIANS.

NO MORE AUNTIE OR AH PEK OR AH BENG IN THIS TRADE,

ONLY THOSE WITH CAPITAL OF AT LEAST HALF A MILLION ARE ALLOW IN THIS INDUSTRY .

I think Indonesia, Thailand and vietnam will laugh out loud that our stupid govt willing to wipe out the whole industry and to start all over again...   [/B]

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Tuan / Puan,

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I want to ask Sifu here is the 7ins. Piling quotation below reasonable or not.

Newbies try to answer ya ... 7in is not common size , better use 6in(150 x 150) , i dun know where is actual location of site , i just try to share some indicative unit rate n view here .


1. Mobilisation, installation and demobilisation og piling equipments Rm8,000

Cost is depend on location n site condition . for those smaller pile(below 8") , either use A frame(600/frame) or hydraulic farme(less than 2K)

2. Setting out of piling points @ Rm8 x124= Rm744

If just BH , u no need license Surveyor to do piling setting out for u , u can ask yr tukang to do this .


3. 6m starter points @ Rm160x124= Rm19,840

From info , if not mistaken yr piling/point is 12m/pt , mean penetration of each point is 12m deep . is depend on Engineer design , but just by rule n thumb , 12m=40 feet is not common deep unless hard ground . For BH(depend on soil condition) is min 18-24 m depth .


4, 6 m extentiong points @Rm172x124=Rm21,328

If use 150 x 150 m cost is 120-130 /pile . u can quotation from hume , Mdc or tekun etc .....

strarter n extension pile not much difference , unless u use pile shoe , but for smaller pile n bh is not applicable

5.Handle, transport and pich @Rm10x248=Rm2480

mean crane to unloading n pitch of pile , is depend on crane = cost/day , n how many pile can unload . if just 248 pile , just estimate 2 day of crane usage .

6.Driving of 175mmx175mm r.c piles Rm8x1488= Rm11904

mean labour to install pile , est rm 3-4 /pile , u can est quantity of pile install/day

7.Extention joints(bult weld) to piles Rm20x124= Rm2480

8-10/joint .

8.Cut off piles head Rm28x123= Rm3472

8-12/point , u can ask yr building contractor to this .

9.PDA test on 1st. Rm1750 if needed 

Is depend on location of your tester , cost to transport to site , 1000-1200 /point


10. PDA test on Subsequence Rm 1200 i


600-800/test , still can go lower if u test more than 3 point /day

If for BH only ,,,,,, for me PDA test r not necessary unless is proper project but all depend on yr consultant ....



Total Rm68,240, I am surprised and can someone here enlighten me on the above....as I paid only Rm180/pile the last time inclusive of everything and how come the above quote?