I saw some swiftlets in the sky during the Duduk Bantah. Grass swiftlets.

See your posting, I m relieved that you r safe and sound.....Swiftlets never protest or else they will protest against BH owners and govt. for their rights, ill and unfair treatment...........

One thing that I always do and that's.......before criticizing others, I must look at myself in the mirror and ask myself if I am better than the one that I am going to criticize. Otherwise, I shall keep my mouth shut and correct myself before criticize other of any wrong doings; as for one finger pointing at others, I am having more fingers pointing at myself.

Like sound pollution, I told fellow BH owners to lower sound at night or better.....no sound so as not to disturb neighbors...and I never have night sound in all my BH @ town from day one. For my over thousand nests BH, I only have original natural bird sound from birds ie no sound system so as not to annoy my neighbors or even giving them any excuse to make complaint against my BH. If All BHs@ town cooperate and comply, then the Association aim to safe the BHs @ town will be less difficult. If wanna loud sound, then move to agriland so that you will not cause the BHs @ town the danger of having to move out. This is typical of human greed, self interest.

Without any disturbance, fellow town folks will be more forgiving and understand us and will ready to give a helping hand in persuading the Majlis to allow us to stay forever.......... like the NGOs here that came to see me to discuss before the last meeting with Majlis on how they can assist and help.

Lastly, my suggestion to all holding position @ Association concerning BHs,
Don't try to please everyone and if you do, you end up doing nothing and pleasing nobody.
Do what you think are right for at least you shall please bigger part of the people.

With compliments of your law enforcement agency.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...&v=TEomA-h2YoM#!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct1hG3nRU8Y...player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp3Jbqe1BXk...player_embedded

Recently there is a newspaper clipping about the government giving off license to premises for swiftlet farming. Anyone know about it? And do anyone have a link to the government websites, forms and etc that allows application for legal permit? Thank.

Those that choose to see nothing, hear nothing, say nothing and do nothing, rather they be nothing. Actions speak louder than words for the sake of next generation. Good job to all who support fair election and clean environment...no more privileged few do the flying while the patriots do the dying....birds will thank us for that for sure.

This post has been edited by swift4ever: May 2 2012, 11:01 PM

Many thanks Ramlan for the videos exposing police brutalities; those low bred bullies who are sadists... and our most amiable home minister praised them to high heaven for their "professinalism" for a job well done. Hitler should be make a saint if these goons who are suppose to protect the public would so savagely beat them... it makes my blood boils to see such scenes... may these kurang ajar goons be damn a thousand times over!!!

It crossed my mind when I was at Jalan Tun Perak earlier around noon during Bersih 3.0 to maybe go shake a hand of one of the policemen around the area... a symbolic gesture... something like during the 1960s during the Vietnam war protest in US when girls would sometimes place flowers into the muzzles of the National Guards rifles. Luckily I never soil my hand with a goodwill handshake with one of those low bred kurang ajar goons. Cowards! Bullies! Idiots! May what they do come back to themselves a hundred times, nay a thousand times over.... Suhakam... we want justice! Malaysians... we want reformasi for the gangsters masquerading as the guardians of public safety... voters... we want a government that protects the human rights and welfare of the public... not a regime that tramples on them...

The more I see... the more I was reminded of the 1980s when the courageous Filipinos finally rose up in a sea of yellow (anti-Marcos color) and forced the despotic and kleptomaniac Marcos to fled his impoverished country which he robbed blind! It really pains me to see my brothers on the field of battle for a better Malaysia so brutally beaten by those savage goons!!! Those of us with warm human hearts that still have any decencies and consciences please remember to show BN the door in the coming general election. There are just so many things that are wrong with this regime that had squatted on our heads and shitted on us with impunity for so many decades!

This post has been edited by philoswiflet: May 3 2012, 09:30 PM

If only PDRM & FRU kept their firing of tear gas & water canon within the limits of Dataran Merdeka grounds, all would be ok.

After all, only DM was breeched (when the police withdrew from the barricades). Why they withdrew is ???????

I apologise as this this thread is about swiftlets.

Bro, I think that a little let go frustration here OK but if we prolong Politic matters, we will be inviting politicians here even Ajib Ko may post a message here to clarify and that's bad for the industry......We talk birds and not Cock so we shall just let go some steam here and go back to matters concerning swiftlets and if it involve some politic matter, bring forward.

As for me, although I supported the cause but sincerely think that someone in the mass of people are there to create unrest and trouble..........and I think the Per**** chief must have a hand in it otherwise, the police would not take action by firing tear gas and water canon cos by doing so, Ajib Ko gain nothing and suffer the most.

My opinion only.

All those guys who were kick, slapped and punched repeatly , do you think they will vote for BN come next election ??? All those brave heart who were there who share the pain , who do you think they will vote come next election ??? All those who watch this violent action by the police who are suppose to protect us,who do you think they will vote in the upcoming election? All the ppl who are not sure , will surely kno who to vote for come next election!!!
Thank you to all the brave hearts who risk their limbs and life to fight this proxie war on behalf of the arm chair critics . Least the arm chair critics can do is to return the compliments come next election !

American potatoes chips (fries), burger for fast food all turnaround time average 5 years. Mean all had being frozen for 5 years before reaching the market this it to keep the production going and availability for the marker.

If you could tell the fries at Mcdee are from which year after few chewing then you could tell the EBN is from which countries and from what date Dude!

Coolandy is ok . Thanks for your effort to make a different. TG for everyone's safety.

What is the current price for bird nest?

Oyes, Coolandy is a very brave man and there were many of them there. He is brave to tell the world that he was there and saw everything........many suffered from tear gas and water cannon but all got sunburned.........imaging afew hours under the present sun! Shabas, Coolandy!!!!!

Hopefully, when BHs have problem, we all can stand tall like brother Coolandy....the loser at present is Ajib Ko and BN, he is going to lose alot of voters............ soooo,, is the election coming soon or later. By the outcome from public outcry and the utube respond, the election should be held later to allow Ajib to mend some fences but if another round of such brutality and suppression of the raayat, better now than later.......sakit kepala Ajib and I wouldn't want to be in his shoe.

He just step into the PM shoe and get beating from day one; how can he prove himself and he has share with the raayat in anything you can think off and tried hard to please the raayat but I believe that it's rather too late cos the formal PM has build up so much hatred for BN.......I pity him, too......... personally and please, not firing of my last statement from here, I hope.

Me and a little of politic when it concern Swiftlets for whoever win the election will have to settle our problem.

sit tight to face e tsunami,,,,,

http://us.finance.detik.com/read/2012/05/0...-walet-ke-china

Call me presumptuous, but I assume it's China-approved instead of WHO-approved. Can China bypass WHO, seriously?

Stephen Crane wrote a classic novel about the US Civil War entitled: The Red Badge of Courage.... Many courageous Malaysian earned their Red Badge of Courage on 28-4-12 for that badge consist of bloodied wounds received in battle... My friend and I were not at the Merdeka ground zero but at Masjid Jamek along Jalan Tun Perak; however, it was near enough for us as we were thrice tear gassed and the third was the most awful... it was close enough for me what being a maiden rally as it must had been for hundred of thousands Malaysians. My friend and I did not earn any Red Badge of Courage that day but many others did... I salute to them for their courage in the face of the formidable adversaries who in all irony were supposed to be our protectors... To quote a Malay proverb, it was a case of "Harap pagar, pagar makan padi..." (We hope the the fence will protect the paddy crops; yet it was the fence that ate the paddy crops.) Anyone wishing to write an account of police brutality during Bersih 3.0 might consider such a title: "The Lawlessness of Malaysian Law Enforcers During Bersih 3.0"

A Malay guy was almost overcome by the tear gas as he ran towards us (near the entrance to the Masjid Jamek entrance) and I helped him to sit on the ground (he was ready to collapse) and I also helped him by putting a little bit of salt (dispensed by a stranger) into his mouth... I had brought along a little salt which I shared with others and had in turn took some salt being offered by others.

There were many young people but also middle age folk (like yours truly) and aunties (our group in a bus consisted of many aunties and young ladies; hats off to them!) and uncles as well... Though not everyone were at the danger zone at Merdeka Square and not everyone suffered from the tear gas and chemically laced water from the water cannons or vicious beatings from the savage policemen (deeply indoctrinated I supposed); yet the fact that so many of us show up despite warnings a day or two before the rally especially by our most amiable Home Minister.

Before the warnings, I thought the rally would be like a stroll in the park... but after the veiled warnings and ominous threats... I think it does take a little courage to go nonetheless.... see the number of foot wears abandoned at Jalan Tun Perak and probably elsewhere and we can tell the panics that arose after the FRU attacked with their tear gases and water cannons... For myself and many others... we go there not wanting to suffer from the tear gas, the chemical laced water from the cannons and vicious beatings from the savage police but simply to display our collective disapproval of the gross errors in our election processes.

I therefore salute all those who attended and especially those who went to the place of honor in a battle... where the fight is the fiercest.... the front line and to those who were beaten so viciously, Malaysia Civil society confers upon you all the meritorious Red Badge of Courage which you all had earned fairly during that fateful day. I quote the words of General Omar Bradley who was among the commanders of the Allied Armies on D-day when the great invasion was launched to take the fight to the Nazi Germany... he observed that: "Every man who set foot on Omaha Beach that day was a hero.'' So too every person no matter what races, creeds, gender or ages who went towards Merdeka Square during all the Bersih rallies conscientiously to seek for a clean election are all heroes.

Malaysia is truly proud of you all in turning up for the rally that was unprecedented in the number of participants that show our strength despite the veiled threats of persecutions by the police. However, those not able to turn up can still make a crucial difference by voting for you know who in the coming general election for as Lincoln taught us that democracy is the government of the people, for the people and by the people... not an exclusive money minting and power grabbing club for the few... See how a daily newspaper reported so biasedly from the standpoint of the establishment when they made mountains out of the molehills of police attacked by participants whereas it was more of the case of the police who took their gloves off and really bashed people around (some with weapons) as if they are allow to beat citizens with impunity as were recorded in various videos... there was simply no mention of the severe thrashings dealt to citizens and reporters in that paper at all... its a shitty propaganda machine that no longer work in the age of the Internet... their propaganda machinery is so passe... should be retired into the museum...

My salutation also to our courageous collective leaderships of Bersih led by the indomitable Ms. Ambiga for the challenging tasks of planning and staging all the Bersih rallies... Before the latest Bersih rally... I did not have much understanding of the abuses of our election processes and it was due to her organization's agitations that had awaken my consciousness in this important aspect of our democracy; I remember little about Bersih 2.0 and had no recollection whatsoever of Bersih 1.0... imagine yours truly who deemed himself to be an educated person yet to be so ignorant about the gross injustices amongst our election processes... The Internet has also help a great deal to spread info about various happenings... Bersih 3.0 may yet be a catalyst in awakening a greater number of Malaysians as to the vices of the establishment and in doing so, help them to make better decisions when polling day came. I have no apology for my statements (I believe I am actually doing a service to the Malaysian public in helping to articulating the course of events before, during and after Bersih 3.0) in this forum about this signal event in Malaysia history when a people long cowed by the establishment found courage in themselves to gather together and stand tall while chanted Bersih! Bersih! Bersih! near Merdeka Square... for if we have unclean election, where then is our Merdeka?

This post has been edited by philoswiflet: May 4 2012, 07:17 AM

Well said

1 Malaysia...?
but I am still don't get 10% discount on buying house. I can't buy malays reserve land. I can't get into uni with 10As. I cant tender jobs that are from Mara n gov institutions. and there are thousand and 1 thing I cant do because I am not Bumi... I wonder the bumi belongs to who? Only god knows!

Anything to do with 1 means one! What it means? U know I know lah....ah sum or ah pak also knows what it means...it means only one lah....no two or three or four or five...it means 1. 1 only. If two then 1 is not really meaningful Liao.

Wah...kohl oh!!!! This is really good news lah....not tsunami....it is life saving to ordinary farmers....at least it is not only one....at least got two lah...in not very future got three.....Vietnam.

In Malaysia, more licences might issue as our big taikohs are going big in birdnest ....hai o, park soon, every green.

My friend Kena kick on duduk n ask to go back china....he said he also want to go back but no money as china is developed country n housing so expensive...he can only afford to stay here....third world country...

But he is saving money to make sure his children's will get a better future elsewhere....the world is big, see farther...that's my opinion lah.

This post has been edited by ChanK: May 3 2012, 08:38 PM

What is the current price for raw enb now? Seems increased