These Chinamen do know about processed(cleaned) and unprocessed nests. Processed nest mean cleaned nest so the PPM shall drop to a respected % unless baked in shit or other while the unprocessed nest, their PPM are high but will be greatly reduce during cleaning so the PPM standard shouldn't apply to natural nests. We shall let China clean the nest to their requirements and standard as our EBN ppm shall drop as more cleaning done and that cleaned nest from other countries like Malaysia and Indo which normally send the nest in small percentage water to prevent damage, PPM will increase if these nests are kept too long, too warm, not properly cleaned or contain chemical or dirty still present in the EBN.

I strongly support in the present situation that we should allow China to process their own nests to their own specifications and standards rather than we try to meet their standards and specifications. We can meet all requirements as in the case of totally cleaned 100% nests like in the cake form where the nest shall be able to maintain their freshness for a long time even year but not the present way of sending not 100% dry nests but still contain some % of small feathers and dirt.

Unless that now, the producers here send their nest to China in 100% dried condition and properly cleaned, then there is no way to meet 100% Standard and Requirement.

So, the President of the Association said so...........
The Newspaper reported so...
but where and when is the increment of price for our EBN as last week, EBN price were even lower here than before the announcement and why????

The EBN Association does not protect you, now the Law does not protect you either.

Do you know that how difficult to catch a thief stealing your EBN but do you know how fast the Police release them....some in just a few hours.

Even the Court does not protect you cos we caught a pair of thieves and the police took them to the Police station. To ensure that the Police take action, 20 of birdhouse owners went to Police station to identified them and only to have released on bail later by their buyer.

The Court fined the thieves only Rm800 per person only for stealing from more than 10 BHs with EBN over 20K at least. So, my advice to those wanting to start doing BH, don't cos why build when you can just take (steal) from the best BH and in case you got caught, pay the fine only and no jail sentence. what is Rm800 fine compare to Rm30K of EBN.

We shall be expecting the 2 thieves soon after their rest as their fine was paid by their buyer and need to be reimbursed.

Police nowaday are more concerned and interested with issue summons to number plates and dark glass.

Bro, Not that I am condemning the Police force but occasionally, their answering make us sick and maybe all because of pressure from the top and low pay. Maybe it due to Barang naik, Gaji sama situation. As good and responsible Malaysian, we need to speak up for the betterment of the country otherwise, when situation become too tense and overheated , then Hell broke out; then who to be blamed?

My friend just told me that in Ktn. , they have caught 4 thieves and one of them is the same one that we caught last time. Except for the one that we caught was like drug addict, the rest look well dressed and all send to Police station and two of them are women. Wonder why he is still out instead of in the jail where he belong.

Now, you see even women also dare to steal from us so what must we do to ensure that our BHs are safe. if we want to set up our own security group will we be arrested under the Law like what happen in Penang recently?

Manang susah Raayat sekarang, ini tak boleh, itu tak jadi sampai, apa tak jadi lagi cakap pun salah.

someone just told me a story which I just want to share here with no prejudice of course but doesn't know if it's true. A drug addict went into a store and took some beers out and a store keeper saw him. The drug addict shouted at him " Tengok apa?". Well, I didn't see it and just heard it.

A word of caution, take good care of everything and May God help us all and hopefully, the Police will help us to clean up the street of all bad hats especially the drug addicts which are really causing a lot of trouble and worry everywhere instead of focusing on the number plates.

Great since you are back with good news but any news on current EBN export and price. Many ppl have said so that after cooking, no nitrite but then our Govt went into details like exporting O% raw which is a joke of the century. Destroying the world market was easy and now, trying to build back the good years will take very much longer times. Since the RED NEST incidence, no news about EBN were good or true.......hope that your time there well spend.

Our country is in bad shape with the oil price down. when the raayat seem to be happy cos oil down, the state suffer due to loss of income from Oil which was great when the oil was over US90 and if it still go down, where the fund coming from. PM sakit kapala and I was right when I said that Malaysia should be happy when Oil price goes up as Malaysia was a big exporter of Oil and now, oil down and where to find money to pay for import so the Government should allow free export of EBN to cushion a little of the import.

Bad time for BH Owners only were when price of EBN down but now, Worst time for All when price of Oil down..........

this has been repeated many times over the last few Vs but maybe you overlook it.

Monsoon time is when no bird will stay back at BH and most BHs are either stagnant or find much lesser nests in their Bhs. This is when most BH owners harvest all nests as there isn't many chicks left in the BHs and those left over may even die due to starvation as their parent may find it impossible to return to feed. Cold weather may be also one of the factor causing the death but some chicks do survive these bad weather to fledge.

So, if you find your BH stagnant during these bad time, then you are doing well for many shall find their BHs lesser or even emptied of nest during monsoon time.

My friend, you were there at EBNIC and you should let us know about the latest news in the trade...........Up or Down and maybe, just maybe, you got some good oversea contacts there to see us thru these hard times.

We are looking and following you, Captain Cool!!!!!

This post has been edited by West Wing: Jan 4 2015, 03:38 PM

Bird trap the best so far but unpleasant sigh for the weak heart so I wouldn't recommend it. As for smaller entrance, they still crawled in as my friend's BH happened to have 2 in his BH with 6" grills and his Indo workers have them destroyed as they can't fly out just can crawl in......anyone got" win win" method here?

As for smaller entrance means also smaller space for bird to enter and smaller growth but still our Big Eyes can enter until too small for either one.

Remember that one need to fly in but the other can crawl in........pening kepala.

Sorry for a late reply and missing in action as less interested already and may consider Retired and out of action.

presently, most BHs experience a stagnant and some drop in bird population and if your's show an increment then congratulation. I believe the main problem being the weather as you will check the day temperature, it's to hot for all birds and men. Burning heat and dry. Added to it, no one care about breeding swiftlets as the price is not good for BH owners so harvesting when the nests are of size and not after fledging so old birds die and no more new birds

I also believe that some of our birds do migrated to other more suitable regions as like years before, these birds did migrated to our BHs as our BHs are more comfortable and safer than the caves. Our present climate is unbearable , so hot and less wind to cool the area; we even sweat at night.

So, don't you worry if your BH still maintain well and when the climate changes to a better temperature, birds may return and hopefully by then so will the price.

This post has been edited by West Wing: Apr 8 2015, 07:32 PM

Why sell so low.
the most importance of all is to get the best price and now, is when you shall get the best price as the market is short of EBN and CNY is near. One friend even get Rm3800 for his super white big nrst.

I just sold some afew weeks ago and I got RM2400 for AB mix and corner at RM1800. Now, friends told me at least RM2700 for AB nests......just ask for a few Quotes before selling as you are one of the few that still have nests.

Regards and best of luck to all

Owls are the most difficult problem other the the human ones .Light at the entrance don't work all the time cos some owls are used to the light and will fly in. even using bars to prevent them from entering doesn't work as owls can still crawl in. Spikes don't work too and all from my experiance with OWL.

I am trying to solve mine and even having trapped many, there are more coming and only last week, 2 more and I gave up trying to solve it at agriland. Weather and climate have cost decline in the number of new nests and human factors are the other problems causing the shortage of nests and if anyone can give assurance to the increament of nests within a time frame, I can give him double his fee or nothing if it didn't work or pay by the number of new nests at Rm50/nest

Anyone interested to buy Birdhouse in PEKAN, PAHANG. Very cheap if interested and contact(PM) me so that I can arrange seller to discuss.

Just to share.
Formally only Chinese buyers but now, there are afew Malays Buyers and they are offering quite reasonable price. Afew weeks ago, I sold some to one Malay buyer at RM2400/kg and they aren't fuzzy or selective unlike some Chinaman Buyers who would take away some very dirty one or too small ones.

Hope that you would sell to anyone buying at the best price and not to only one buyer cos in most such cases, he would never offer you the best price as he know that you sure sell to him. be smart and check out with other buyers in the market and you may find that all this while, you have been cheated..like one Chinese Buyer offered me only Rm1800/kg for the same nests that I sold to the Malay Buyer for Rm2400/Kg. I just asked for Rm2K and still he refused by complaining that my nests are not white and feathered. Luckily for me that he didn't accept Rm2K proposal otherwise I would be losing RM4K for the 10KGs nests.

JUst maybe, you are getting the wrong contacts only as many are buying higher and higher and I sold very dirty and brownish nests for 2350/kg......they even ask for broken small pcs and offer to Rm1K and dust also few hundreds.

What more do you want but maybe because it's close to CNY and the buyers are desperate for EBN and upbeat others to get nests and hope that this CNY can sell well so that the next year shall be a better year for farmers.

Our EBN always of a better grade than that of Indo so we shall expect better price as China demand on quality EBN and willing to pay good price for them so if you have big white nests now, they can offer to buy at over RM3500 .....

Hope you sell well and have a Fatt Cai new year. Direct China buyers are of no good cos they offer very low as if we are desperate to sell and only they have the cash.

forget to mention that we here have no more nests as so many buyers came to buy and now, totally finished, just to tell you that buyers are desperate in wanting nests.. even my dusts also sold.

[quote=gerald7,Nov 18 2015, 06:07 PM]
agreed. but to me the 1st deterrent is light. I never had issues until my light not working and my worker didnt inform me. last harvest I found out that my bh just got owl invasion again.. 2nd time this year. so eerie when walking in and the house is quiet. Caught one.. but could not locate its mate... the hunt continues.

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Owls invasion will cause a decline in the birds as owl eats birds as owl cannot digest bones so they vomit the bones out thru their mouth if there are too many bones in its stomach. Occasionally, you will find tiny birds feet with bone instead the usual owl's shit in your birdhouse.

Once I did try to release an owl after catching it but because I want to ensure that the owl would not return. I drive 40 km to a oil palm estate just for the owl but alas, the owl was dead on arrival; most probably due to heart attack.

One friend told me that he has solved Owl problem by having 5ins. bar gap across the entrance hole. I may try it as mine is 6.5 ins, doesn't work. Maybe, 4.5 ins to be safe but whether birds can fly in or not...hahaha another problem.
Anyone here tried it already?

felt sorry that I sold my nest earlier as just few days ago, friend sold AB at RM3400, anyway, easy come easy go as these are GOD's gift to us , the Good Souls. Hopefully, that the nests will sell well this coming CNY and we shall have even better price in 2016.

Nests are getting lesser these days inrespective of which countries but obviously, there surely be some buyers boosting that there are tons and tons of nests in Indo waiting for buyers trying to get you scared and sell low...my advice is to have it your way and sell what you want for your nests as these are God's gift to you.

Thanks for the suggestion and will try when I am free and hopefully that your wires works as I was intention to reduce the size of the entrance bar. Your way save me some money.

Poor health keep me away from this forum but anyway, price going up and buyers giving very high price for poor quality nests even....maybe, they are really short of supply esp indo may has suffer a hugh decline of nests recently.

So, you know what to do, smart guys here...no need advice on selling

Hi, I just drop in to wish all here " Selamat Hari Raya"
Even I hatdly read here due to poor health but wish to remind here that ny heart is still with you all and Swiftlets.
Go go go and hope the price will go up and up but do remember to take the nests but not at the expense
of the eggs and chicks.

This post has been edited by West Wing: Jul 1 2016, 07:14 PM