TF, All medicine shops in HK and Macau quoted in (両) Liang or Niu in hokkien. so tahil is correct.
As you can see from the middle picture, the shop pasted a conversion table on the wall and even translated in Bahasa, 1 tahil = 37.79931gram.

Hi guys,

There is some news about  BH turned into casino on astro last night.  Anybody knows where that bh is located?

Hey Friend!!!!

Don't use ant poison to kill the ants or else, we may end up with another storm before this storm end.....Ant poison.

Just rinse the nests again and fan dry them; very dry and store the nests air tight container if you don't have a chiller..and it will stay white longer as the little bit of possible shit does not dissolve into nest to turn it brownish fast. Also, remember to put them in dry and dark place not expose to the sun cos sunlight will turn nests brown.

KUALA LUMPUR: Starting this year, local companies exporting swiftlet nests to China are required to obtain three quality certifications before their products will be allowed to enter the republic, according to Agriculture and Agro-based Industry Minister Datuk Seri Noh Omar.

Bird's nest exporters need 3 quality certifications to enter China

He said the quality certifications were the Veterinary Health Mark (VHM) certificate issued by the Veterinary Department, the Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) certificate issued by the Malaysian Communication and Multimedia Commission (MCMC) and the health certificate issued by the Health Ministry.

I don't understand how the Mchip is going to trace to the source. There are many thousands of BHs (assuming 20/80 successful/unsuccessful) producing very little qty. The middle men I assume buy from all over and accumulate them for further processing. IF, the Mchip is applicable to processors only, that is fine. But it doesn't mean the EBN is truly from Malaysia as processors can and should be able to process EBN from other countries. But if the Mchip applies to BHs, then this is truly idiotic bureaucracy at its finest.

Hi Sifus and forumers, I am new here and has enjoyed reading this EBN forum and websites.  Have a small agri land in Rawang and plan to start up a farm. As prices of unprocessed EBN are currently very low and the problems with China not resolved, is it still viable to start up one now?  For a 30 x 80 farm cost RM350K, much money to a retiree. Most welcome to give some helpful advice.

Bird's nests prices are dead, bird's population is declining...what else?...V5

Thank you Northface and WW sifus for your advice not to build in this market uncertainty but I cant find reasonable priced farms around Sel or N9.  Perhaps you can help.  Sorry to be longwinded, how many years can one get back capital if farm is about average successful, say spend RM350k? Thinking hard to enter this biz.

Something to ponder as CNY is still not with us and we aren't working.

If nitrite appear normally in birdnest and people have been eating birdnest for hundreds of years and are very healthy eating them, why is the problem now??? Although, I am against those additives to birdnests or even giving supplementary food to swiftlets inorder to produce bigger nests or even whiter nests for that matter. 

Nitrite in certain food are bad for health but maybe a necessary ingredient that promote good health in the case of birdnest but I am no scientist but it don’t take a scientist to know. Even today science may not be able to prove that nitrate or nitrite for that matter in natural form as in birdnest is bad for health. And when cooking will remove and dilute the N’s to much lower PPM. We never encourage or even allow artificial additive of such matter into birdnest although the Food and Drug Administration allow these compounds to be used as food additives as long as they are of food grade and only in the amount needed. The FDA maximum amount of nitrite allowed in smoked and cured fish and meat is 200ppm!!!!

What’s about Chinese waxed ducks and preserved meat that we import from China esp. for CNY, these products must have even more without the FDA supervision. Didn’t the MOH or other Departments  inspect these products or that our lives are  of no value at all.

Comparing the two.
I have to agree with WW abt the sound part.
If you want to have a BH in town area, you have to run with no sound. And the again, if they allow it in Town with such rules, it is just a matter of time ppl start blasting the sounds 24/7.

Abt voting. What has BN given us till now? Look at the issue, not what affect yourself n yourself only.

DAP decision to demolish BH in city area is not a wrong one. They have their reasons and those are indeed valid reasons. It is because the decision affect us, thats y we are against it. Millions are happy with the rules.

What different are we from those who get RM500 and vote BN for ourselves if we decide to vote BN because they would let us keep our BH in city area? Look at whats best in the long term, for our nxt generations.

I agree with Chank

It is not corruption that we converted our shop into bird's keeping. it is THE only way for us to make a living when we can't find anyone to rent out our shops and even if we do business in the area, we will be out in 6 months times as the income will not be enough to even paid the salary of our workers.

Ask one of the pioneer, Datuk B, who have so many abandoned shops that he developed and can't sell out, rotten, grow fungus, polluting the whole town view, damaging the image of Malaysia. And converting them into bird's keeping hostel saved his life.

and the story goes on n on. Go into small towns, i am not talking about Petaling Street town in the middle of KL, or Jalan Ipoh, or Selayang which i do agree not a proper way to have a farm ( but why they do it in the first place??, one of them rent it out and ends up not able to collect rental and one of them, can't rent it out eventhough it is in the middle of the city.

and the story goes on.

though we have many bad apples in our own trade, and the only way is what WW said, off the sound. and i think we have no other choice either. thats the only way out. we will proposed it to our local association.

I think the selangor govt is arrogant as they never go in and research what is the effects of asking thousands of us to move in three years as what they think is important is to get rid of complaints.

Giving three years for us to move, what happen when we move? we don't have money to invest in buying a land, build a new building. We are stuck with our shop and without income, we have to worry about our loan payment, our childrens education expenses, our family expenses. U think we still have money to invest in a new place?

If we closed it down,u think we can rent it out? if we can rent it out and make enough to support to pay the loan installment, we will do that.

Go out, and take a look at all those shops that converted into bird keeping hostel, Why they do it? for fun? to disturb peoples? to test out govt?

It is because we can't do anything with it, thts why!!.

We are no Rich Kids from Rich family or born with a golden spoon..

If you can't think liked that, You are arrogant. You need to change.

10 years ago, when we started this business, the whole economy is DEAD. and 10 years later, The economy is good? some yes, but majority is DEAD too. You want to harm it further by doing that? You are damn stupid and arrogant.

If i am the selangor MB, i will allow it to continue with condition that No more Sounds pollutions meaning no more complaints and to review the license every three years.

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Added on January 31, 2012, 4:50 pmoh..ONE MORE THING.

YOU KNOW WHY WE KEEP BUILDING FARMS IN TOWN??
At the 1st GHP Training in shah alam, THE GOVT ENCOURAGE US TO INVEST TO BUY SHOPS AND CONVERT IT INTO FARMS. THE GOVT SAID IT IS CHEAPER TO DO THAT AND IT HELPS THE ECONOMY AS MANY ABANDONED SHOPS IN MALAYSIA. ANYONE TOOK ANY VIDEO'S ON THAT DAY, PLEASE BRING IT FORWARD AND SHOW IT.

WE ARE THE VICTIMS.