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tsd
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May 22 2019, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE(ccf1162 @ May 20 2019, 10:54 AM) Anyone tried before DHS PF4? Heard old ppl says it not sensitive to spin, basically any incoming spin also can loop . Most of the time if a rubber lose tackiness it basically dead but tis rubber at its best performance when it lose its tackiness. They also said good for fast loop and sidespin loop . Only cons is really hard to find blade that suit it as its sponge too dead not bouncy enough. The best combination is DHS 032 &04 because the power supply to the rubber wif these blade I would say is unlimited no bottleneck but 032 and 04 is ancient blade which on the brink of extinction. Alternative cheaper one is yinhe n9 but only suitable for continuous looping but not smashing and near table control a bit weak.Hope to hear some reviews.  QUOTE(ccf1162 @ May 22 2019, 09:22 AM) this is a new version of the old PF4, never played with this before so cannot comment. BUT if it is similar to the old PF4, then no point spending the money. The old PF4 have average power and a very short life span. Last time I tried with the old PF4, just after few weeks, its dead. Not worth the money even if it is dirt cheap. Once dead, you will not be able to spin and control the ball well with dead rubber because it has not much grip. A good grip is what needed for spin and ball control.
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tsd
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May 24 2019, 06:50 PM
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wow, that sounds great for PF4, maybe they have new formula in it. Before you go further hunting for the DHS 032 bat, check if he speed glue or boost his PF4, cos what you mention does not sound like a typical sticky chinese rubber. Old ppl ( during that era ) are addicted to speed glue. Dead sticky chinese rubber normally will look like those ladies with heavy makeup on their face, even after you clean the rubber with water that texture will return. QUOTE(ccf1162 @ May 23 2019, 10:51 AM) O ,well. I managed tried it out yesterday after long begging and bargaining with one of the old ppl in my training place to bring out his precious DHS 032 + PF4 single sided penhold. Damn the bat is so heavy for single sided penhold weighted I think it's about 150g. Just like the old ppl said fast loop and sidespin loop are so powerful and the speed and spin. Wow , it's just like a whole new world . Even short cut or chop ?[ I don't know what's the technical term for chop at inside table] barely any rubber can compete with PF4. Smashes is terrifying people that everyone is my place start questioning their expensive blade and rubber compare to the old ppl's old 032 that looked like a cheap blade that nobody want to buy. And for 032 it's hard to describe, probably its consist of basswood which provide outstanding control and meranti provide strength and power which makes it like an allround blade suitable lp chopping and sp and smooth. Only cons it's damn heavy. Guess I need to beg that old ppl to lend me his yasaka mark V + stiga ac. 
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tsd
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May 24 2019, 07:01 PM
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so you have the solution already, just make him go further away from the table. Rubber with little grip are very hard to play away from table. These anti spin players will try to stay near the table with their anti spin. You can lure them away by giving him ball at his comfort zone with a deep light top spin ( normally his forehand and normally they wont mind moving a little bit back but be prepared for a smash from him of your ball goes too high ), then you send a long left high ball, from there he should be further away from the table. After that dont let him come near QUOTE(Steven_aka_G @ May 24 2019, 08:22 AM) You guys gotta remember that there's no one only way to play table tennis. I've played against some state players that used dead Chinese rubber. One of the hardest players I've ever played against honestly as receiving serves was a breeze to him. Something like an anti spin rubber honestly. And yes, in theory, those kind of rubbers aren't very suitable for away from the table loops but how many people are at the level where they can consistently loop at that level? I can very well imagine someone winning the point before it reaches to that extent. This post has been edited by tsd: May 24 2019, 07:02 PM
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tsd
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May 24 2019, 09:45 PM
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looks like you like this rubber alot, just go for it  besides you got this nice old guy with you. Last time when I was young, I also have old ppl playing table tennis with me. Your old guy seems very observant with his rubber, I have to admit... I never check my rubber pips, I dont even know what pattern my H3 rubber pips QUOTE(ccf1162 @ May 24 2019, 08:11 PM) I asked the old ppl ,he say if you glue it with speed you will have bigger problem on the rubber and indirectly shorten its lifespan because it's sponge is not designed to speed glue it due to Chinese player don't speed glue in1980s. Basically using PF4, if you generated more spin, the ball will be faster and the arc lower so just concentrate on producing spin and not focus on hit it to make it faster. One cons is DHS has bad quality control because the old ppl showed me two same rubber bought at same time , one of them it pips align straight and the other had a horizontal arrangement. However the original design of this rubber pips is horizontal arrangement
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tsd
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May 28 2019, 10:05 AM
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Congratulations of your new club. Remember to come back here to post your events, just in case some members here wants to join your events. QUOTE(DragonTodak @ May 25 2019, 10:24 PM) Hello guys. I am new here. Recently my friends and I recently opened a Table Tennis Club in Keramat AU3, Ampang and registeted it under Registrar of Sport Malysia. It is known as KELAB PING PONG KERAMAT HULI KELANG (KPPKHK). You may googgle search fot more info. We now have 4 tables and playing hours are 9pm-12am every evening. Those who want to join, you may contact me. Registration RM10/year. Mrmbership Fee Rm10/month, walk in fee RM2/entry. My Blog: https://kppkhk.blogspot.com. All Malaysians are welcome, Malay, Chinese, Indian. My hp: 012 2934694. Pls Whatsapp.
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tsd
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Jun 4 2019, 09:54 AM
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since all of you sound so pro, I suggest all of you make yourself available in September 2019, LKS is going to organize a big table tennis tournament in USJ. All of you should join, otherwise all these talk is just empty talk. I will join, regardless of my health condition. https://www.facebook.com/871242836305424/ph...?type=3&theater
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tsd
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Jun 4 2019, 09:57 AM
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Should have some international players taking part, especially from our neighbouring country like Singapore, Indonesia and Thailand. Maybe you can experience some China grade players since Singapore always import players from there. So, this tournament should be quite interesting to take part. Last year he organize one, I did not join but I go there and watch, saw some players from Singapore and Taiwan. QUOTE(tsd @ Jun 4 2019, 09:54 AM) since all of you sound so pro, I suggest all of you make yourself available in September 2019, LKS is going to organize a big table tennis tournament in USJ. All of you should join, otherwise all these talk is just empty talk. I will join, regardless of my health condition. https://www.facebook.com/871242836305424/ph...?type=3&theater This post has been edited by tsd: Jun 4 2019, 10:00 AM
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tsd
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Jul 14 2019, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(tsd @ Jun 4 2019, 09:54 AM) since all of you sound so pro, I suggest all of you make yourself available in September 2019, LKS is going to organize a big table tennis tournament in USJ. All of you should join, otherwise all these talk is just empty talk. I will join, regardless of my health condition. https://www.facebook.com/871242836305424/ph...?type=3&theaterthey changed the venue to Setia Alam... looks like I will not be joining, too far to my likings. otherwise u guys can come and join me
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