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 Are property prices going to up further? V4, nothing's gonna stop us now

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post Nov 21 2011, 08:18 AM

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in future, when investors come and they will be shocked, "What? Rental price is same as Singapore? ok, forget it. Bye."
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post Nov 21 2011, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(frederic9 @ Nov 21 2011, 11:00 AM)
property prices going UP, but rentals going DOWN. :3

so developers/sellers win, owners lose. tongue.gif
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true story?
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post Nov 21 2011, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(airline @ Nov 21 2011, 01:21 PM)
700k buy to rent out not worth the time.
unless klcc or mont kiara
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unless it is ONe Menerung. CAn rent for 70k per month
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post Nov 23 2011, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Nov 23 2011, 03:16 PM)
with 3k salary per month, what is the estimation of max loan the bank going to approve ?
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there is something call online loan calculator in the banks' web site
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post Nov 25 2011, 01:19 PM

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maybe price will rise another 5%-10%? less possibility...

but if price drop 10-20% (higher possibility), it is still a lot, consider a condo, 400k become 360-320k...

so worth to wait i think.
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post Nov 25 2011, 02:30 PM

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income cannot catch up with property price lah, has your income doubled since 2008?
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post Nov 25 2011, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 25 2011, 02:37 PM)
Yes, I knew.
But nobody said property price rise must be the same with income rise.
Income rise will give a source of fuel for property to rise.

At lower end, income grow may be slow, not matching up the property rise pace.
But for upper ranking people or rich one, it can be different story all together.
Rich one can easily using cheap leverage (as we have low and zero interest worldwide), to make more money, and income rise even quickly for them and exponentially.

Ordinary people cannot easy get loan or funding.
But rich one can using banks money to leverage at funding rate of 1.x~2% and use the money to buy stocks, invest that can give then 4-5% yield stock/investment.

Somemore, with lower interest rate, it drives up a lot of previously sitting money in FD one and shift out to look for investment due to pathetic interest they are getting, to hedge inflation etc, and what they can aim for?
Hard asset, obvious target is property.

Income rise + cheap funding + more money + speculation --> property price rise.
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i think these, we also already knew.
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post Nov 25 2011, 03:01 PM

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correction: Income rise + cheap funding + more money + speculation + fear factor --> property price rise.
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post Dec 1 2011, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Dec 1 2011, 10:07 AM)
hi that day i heard from the agent that start from next year, bank will use net income to approve housing loan. Meaning to say, if your salary is RM3k, they will minus off things like EPF, sosco, tax, which become only about RM2.4k and use RM2.4k / 3 is your monthly installment for the house. Is it true? If yes, this rule will affect the property price next year?
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nowadays the pro no use salary to goreng properties la...


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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Dec 1 2011, 10:08 AM)
The main message of this article is to tell us that CHINA men are looking to buy our land and properties especially in Penang, Johor and also Kuala Lumpur.

So be prepared!

Although foreginers can only purchase those properties priced above rm500k, you can see developers are trying to build developments at that price ranges.

Property will become more expensive only over the time.  shocking.gif
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increase 1% is more expensive, increase 100% is also more expensive... so no point saying property will always increase price la... who doesnt know that.

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post Dec 1 2011, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Dec 1 2011, 01:02 PM)
but this can affect the non-pro which is quite a number also. when the non-pro unable to get approved by banks, then this can affect the sales. thus, price can drop in my opinion. but drop a bit la.
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non pro can only afford 1-2 unit

pro can sapu whole floor... so who win?
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post Dec 2 2011, 09:20 AM

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大馬房產成中國資金新目標
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meanwhile... Asia’s factories stall; China urges stimulus

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“Many factories will go bankrupt, and workers will have a hard time finding jobs when they come back next year,”


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Workers loiter outside a factory in Zhongshan, Guangdong province June 18, 2010. — Reuters pic

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post Dec 2 2011, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(sampool @ Dec 2 2011, 11:18 AM)
yaya.. i saw a woman is rushing to the factory to start work lioa... hehe.
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ya, 99.9% workers are actually busy working in the factory.
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post Dec 2 2011, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(TheDoer @ Dec 2 2011, 01:58 PM)
Those guys are busy measuring the road.  Everybody has a job to do.
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ya, measure to check how many more properties can be built on it.


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QUOTE(farokc @ Dec 2 2011, 02:03 PM)
Heard next year gonna have some cooling off of property prices
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u heard wrong lah, Chinese from China will come to sapu all our properties

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post Dec 6 2011, 01:38 PM

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majority chinese (from china) dun even has their own house... so they buy malaysia house and move here is it.
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post Dec 9 2011, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(GigiZum @ Dec 9 2011, 11:13 AM)
Agreed. .. Price goes up. .. Our next generation will suffer. .
The fact is some of them already suffering now..  What so good about it rocket up???
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Next generation of rich property owners wont suffer...
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post Dec 9 2011, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Dec 9 2011, 02:55 PM)
what riches you have today, may not be rich next generation if the properties keep going up at these rate
500k 10 years ago - can get you a nice corner DSL or even Semi-D
500k now - can get you a nice cosy pigeon hole high up the sky
next generation - really don't know but 1 thing i do know, if inflation continue like this...i be a vagabond very soon cry.gif
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500k landed now will become 1.5 million in 20 years mah... then cash out and buy a brand new property. where got suffer?
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post Dec 9 2011, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Dec 9 2011, 07:01 PM)
haha...very good imagination u have tongue.gif

but come back to the same question, 20 years later do your next generation buying 500k house?
nope isn't it.

your next generation might need to buy new home that will cost more then 2.5M. If use current situation as a yardstick, all newly launch properties are price higher then old properties. Your next generation still suffer but lesser compare with no properties owner 20 years later.
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then i buy 2 properties for each kid. Sure can afford this time. whistling.gif
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post Dec 10 2011, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(sampool @ Dec 9 2011, 10:16 PM)
how about ur grandson, they also deserve to have one houses each... because ur son definately unable to buy them millions cost of the house... better buy now for all of them....  brows.gif
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then i buy a big piece of land, up to them to build their own house


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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Dec 9 2011, 10:01 PM)
The rest are for me & wife to enjoy our retirement
then yr next generation will suffer lor...

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post Dec 13 2011, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Dec 13 2011, 01:34 PM)
I remember I went to a property launch 1 month ago. The aunty investor ask the developer agent how to earn money if the price already so high?  icon_question.gif
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aunty know how to flip or not
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post Dec 14 2011, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(frederic9 @ Dec 13 2011, 09:55 PM)
Malaysia-level-Marketing

Developers & Investors keep using same excuses,

1. Population getting more
-Yes, like 10% MAX, but some developers are building 200% more?
-It's NOT like they DON'T DIE like your property. gee.

2. Land getting less
-Yes, people do DIE (and only gets MORE), cemetery land not enough. - -I should start buying land for cemetery, but wait, there's another scheme for cemetery land INVESTORS. o.O

3. You can get passive income / Collect rent etc
-Ya right, I buy there & rent that out(gains passive income), now I'm staying in a rented unit myself(lost back passive income)
-What if the tenant are thugs?
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4. Building material cost increased...

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