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 Are property prices going to up further? V4, nothing's gonna stop us now

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post Nov 21 2011, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(chengcheng @ Nov 20 2011, 11:44 PM)
It maybe a last push...

It will be riskier... To get in now.

But I maybe wrong... Who knows!
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Ya.. this is my guess too..

but some say that supply is less than demand, therefore buy now before you regrets.. rclxub.gif
sampool
post Nov 21 2011, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(insaint708 @ Nov 21 2011, 03:31 PM)
Ya.. this is my guess too..

but some say that supply is less than demand, therefore buy now before you regrets..  rclxub.gif
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no harm to wait for 3 months... i m sure the anwser is there...


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post Nov 21 2011, 02:59 PM

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News From China smile.gif

http://smh.domain.com.au/real-estate-news/...1118-1nmzp.html

http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/?id=4...9&type=Business

http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/?id=4...0&type=Business

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xlylro_pr...ues-plunge_news

http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2011/10...falling-prices/

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post Nov 21 2011, 07:46 PM

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2008 said crash and property will go down.
2009 said the same thing but property up.
2010 said the same thing but property up up
2011 said the same thing but property up up up
What do you think in 2012????
up up up up or down down down down???

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post Nov 21 2011, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(sweety9797 @ Nov 21 2011, 07:46 PM)
2008 said crash and property will go down.
2009 said the same thing but property up.
2010 said the same thing but property up up
2011 said the same thing but property up up up
What do you think in 2012????
up up up up or down down down down???
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haha... i think bubble will not come so soon, might after 2 more years...
if it happen, later will still increase again like share..
it depends on location, spending power and etc...
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post Nov 21 2011, 10:27 PM

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Quite boring about properties news from china...zzzzzzzzZzZzZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....
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post Nov 22 2011, 08:02 AM

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Property sector to feel impact from tighter lending, slower sales

PETALING JAYA: The winds buffeting the property industry may become stronger with the introduction of guidelines by Bank Negara to rein in household debt which becomes effective from Jan 1.

RHB Research Institute Sdn Bhd analyst Loong Kok Wen said in a report that these regulations would have an impact on the industry with the high-end segment of the market being more sensitive to regulatory tightening as financing availability gets narrower.

She said the stricter lending rules were likely to result in a 14%-37% decrease in affordability with the impact to be felt from the first half of next year.

The central bank issued guidelines last week in a move to clarify lending practices among financial service providers which included the requirement by banks to make appropriate assessment into prospective borrowers' income after statutory deductions and consider all outstanding debt obligations.

Loong said that although banks were already assessing potential borrowers' net salary in their evaluation process, lending would likely be tighten on home mortgages going forward on worries of rising household debt to gross domestic product (GDP) levels.

She said fundamentals in the market remained weak with the prolonged sovereign debt crisis in the European Union overshadowing the global economic outlook.

“From our recent conversation with developers, potential buyers are indeed taking longer time in their property buying decisions than previously, especially on premium properties. Mass housing will continue to fare better due to pent-up demand,” Loong said.

She added that property sales were likely to taper off (after a 21% growth in 2010) with a growth of 0% to 5% in 2012, given that sales were largely driven by GDP growth.

Loong said the house was maintaining an “underweight” and was still cautious on property stocks although they have recovered in tandem with the temporary rebound in the equity market.

“Our stock pick is selective,” she said, adding that UEM Land was recently upgraded to a “trading buy” and Mah Sing Group Bhd to “market perform”.

Loong expects UEM Land Holdings Bhd to benefit from more oil and gas-related news flow in Iskandar, while IJM Land Bhd's share price could be supported by a potential merger and acquisition angle following the recent offer made by Permodalan Nasional Bhd to SP Setia Bhd.


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QUOTE(dlyw1103 @ Nov 22 2011, 09:02 AM)
Property sector to feel impact from tighter lending, slower sales

PETALING JAYA: The winds buffeting the property industry may become stronger with the introduction of guidelines by Bank Negara to rein in household debt which becomes effective from Jan 1.

RHB Research Institute Sdn Bhd analyst Loong Kok Wen said in a report that these regulations would have an impact on the industry with the high-end segment of the market being more sensitive to regulatory tightening as financing availability gets narrower.

She said the stricter lending rules were likely to result in a 14%-37% decrease in affordability with the impact to be felt from the first half of next year.

The central bank issued guidelines last week in a move to clarify lending practices among financial service providers which included the requirement by banks to.....
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this figure definately bring big impact ...


Added on November 22, 2011, 9:37 amhttp://biz.sinchew-i.com/node/54019?tid=6

中國房市惡化‧明年恐跌價25%

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post Nov 22 2011, 05:02 PM

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Was quite hopeful that the KV property market would remain stagnant. but now with the US finance n equities starting to go into implosion mode and EU not far behind. I am having serious doubts if MY can sustain at all at positive GDP. anything above 0% would be good news for 2012 onwards IMO. I think after next chinese new year there will be lots of pickings if situation keeps going the current way. brows.gif
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post Nov 23 2011, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(sweety9797 @ Nov 21 2011, 07:46 PM)
2008 said crash and property will go down.
2009 said the same thing but property up.
2010 said the same thing but property up up
2011 said the same thing but property up up up
What do you think in 2012????
up up up up or down down down down???
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don't agree .. as on a whole its stagnant
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post Nov 23 2011, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(macyhouse @ Nov 23 2011, 08:43 AM)
don't agree .. as on a whole its stagnant
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majority properties in prime areas have capital appreciation of 10~30% this year and i only foresee a slow down or worst case senario a correction cap at -10% max in 2012
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QUOTE(Y2016 @ Nov 23 2011, 09:09 AM)
majority properties in prime areas have capital appreciation of 10~30% this year and i only foresee a slow down or worst case senario a correction cap at -10% max in 2012
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This is quite interesting;

Thailand, Malaysia at risk in global slump: Fitch -By Agence France-Presse, Updated: 11/22/2011

Thailand and Malaysia would be the most at risk among Asia's developing countries if there were a sharp deterioration in the global economy, Fitch ratings agency said Tuesday.....

http://news.malaysia.msn.com/regional/arti...umentid=5569024



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post Nov 23 2011, 09:47 AM

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Malaysian GDP=rm30k per year..thats only 2.5k per month
u expect them to buy house more than 300k????
or expect them to rent ur property more than 2k per month????

hahahaha property owners gonna get screwed soon enough..
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post Nov 23 2011, 10:45 AM

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looking forward to buy a landed subsale.
probably i shud wait...?
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post Nov 23 2011, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(chubbyken @ Nov 23 2011, 10:45 AM)
looking forward to buy a landed subsale.
probably i shud wait...?
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You have choice to wait but do remember if you have enough money and affordability, you can start to look for your future home to avoid disappointment. Due like previous discussion, material and cost was hike.
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post Nov 23 2011, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(icp @ Nov 23 2011, 09:47 AM)
Malaysian GDP=rm30k per year..thats only 2.5k per month
u expect them to buy house more than 300k????
or expect them to rent ur property more than 2k per month????

hahahaha property owners gonna get screwed soon enough..
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sometime statistic doesnt reflect the whole picture..
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post Nov 23 2011, 03:16 PM

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with 3k salary per month, what is the estimation of max loan the bank going to approve ?
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post Nov 23 2011, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Nov 23 2011, 03:16 PM)
with 3k salary per month, what is the estimation of max loan the bank going to approve ?
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there is something call online loan calculator in the banks' web site
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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Nov 23 2011, 03:03 PM)
sometime statistic doesnt reflect the whole picture..
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yeah,n to think that all properties gonna jump high and never going down also based on assumption only!
who r we to talk about the future rite? hmm.gif
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post Nov 23 2011, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(icp @ Nov 23 2011, 09:47 AM)
Malaysian GDP=rm30k per year..thats only 2.5k per month
u expect them to buy house more than 300k????
or expect them to rent ur property more than 2k per month????

hahahaha property owners gonna get screwed soon enough..
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No doubt it is insane, Don't expect our salary will be rose to outpaced the inflation and property price.

To bad, I foresee we will be facing lots of challenging issues start from next year. Rain is heavy, flood is everywhere, shortage of food, subsidize will be cut after election, inflation will be very high.


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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Nov 23 2011, 03:16 PM)
with 3k salary per month, what is the estimation of max loan the bank going to approve ?
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200k? I don't know, with 200k loan, monthly installment is about 1k.


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QUOTE(icp @ Nov 23 2011, 03:24 PM)
yeah,n to think that all properties gonna jump high and never going down also based on assumption only!
who r we to talk about the future rite? hmm.gif
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From the history, Malaysian say it will never go down. But last time and now is different, I think it will fall this time, simply because the property price is too much.

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