Curious what do you have in your collection if you don't mind saying.

Another pam?

Nice collection there.

Hmm.. you have a Quasi Swiss/British, Italian, Swiss, French... you're missing a German.

I didn't know that.

Edit:
Oh now I know.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedat_%26_Co
Was wondering how many "swiss watch" companies are there anyways?

This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Sep 20 2012, 07:31 PM

My missus and my 39mm



So fragile? You can always get a beater that you won't sakit hati if break or scratched. This is mine... worn this since 2007. Bought it cos I was travelling quite often and money was tight. But I love it to bits

Seiko SNJ005 Sportura world timer.

Yup though not too good for resale value though... I've gone through 3 cycling accidents that left me bleeding wearing that Seiko and all it got was some minor scratches

Not sure about Malaysia pricing but that should be more than enough for pre-loved Omega Seamaster 300M.

ps: Can someone tell me why Omega needs to have 29 versions of the PO?

It's so..... American.

Could you elaborate?

Thanks... learn something new everyday.

Yeah.. my boss just upgraded his louis vuitton to a black panerai. Dunno what model is that.

Everywhere I looked on the interweb, the debate about Panerai's tend to get nasty and frankly not very informative besides beating the dead horse so I hope the guru's here can help enlighten me a bit.

Below are my 2 cents..

Personally I think Panerai's looks good and they seem very popular and like THE watch to wear these days and like you said, new movements and I really like the idea of a ceramic case (like my boss punya)

But rich history?

According to the interweb, they made like 300+ watches for the Italian Navy (not exactly the best fighting force in WW2) until the contract got canned.

What about Hamilton Field Khaki's that were issued to WWII GI's... or the Rolex/Omegas that were smuggled into Britain to be issued to RAF Spitfire pilots during the darkest hour or the Seiko issued to Kamikaze pilots (wait... that won't sell) and Seiko divers favored by GI's in Vietnam that worked in the paddy fields and during love you long long time sessions. Or the modern timex, g-shocks etc favored by Navy SEALs etc and our own PASKAL? All those also can claim even richer history

Bit more military trivia... the Germans, British and Japanese also used commando manned torpedoes during the war though typical for Japanese forces in that era... they more garang and kamikaze with the torpedo and their seikos.

And the final thing I don't understand is ..... an Italian watch?

I know OP's now Swiss but while Italians have great aesthetic designs, they're aren't exactly brilliant with mechanical stuff and neither are they the ideal image of a patient watchmaker (I've been working with them for the past 10 years )

But respect-lah.. marketing coup d'etat of the century. Not easy to pull something like this off.

This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Oct 4 2012, 01:28 AM

Sharing an interesting article

http://www.timezone.com/2012/07/07/the-mil...-james-dowling/

Classical advert from 47 years ago.. I think the ad would still work today.

Another interesting read... HUGE wall of text but interesting nevertheless.

Hans Wilsdorf and Rolex backstory
http://rolexblog.blogspot.tw/2010/07/we-wa...-and-rolex.html

Panerai backstory and its relation with Rolex
http://rolexblog.blogspot.tw/2009/07/part-...y-of-rolex.html

Edit: Updated.

This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Oct 4 2012, 04:27 PM

This is truth and hence FTW.


1969 example of why Seiko despite its heritage, is so underated. They don't understand marketing.

google told me that the watch collector community seems to have more love for mass murderers of cute baby seals and furry little puppies than the Invicta business model

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Added on October 4, 2012, 11:12 pmYa...... but luxury marketing is really an art cos its never just about the product.

This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Oct 4 2012, 11:20 PM

I think the Japanese needs to do more with their marketing to build a brand identity.

Having western sounding names for high end product don't really work.

I don't doubt the desirability, merits or the quality of Seikos. Just saying that their marketing leaves a lot to be desired.

And their lineup's a mess ... Pressage, Mechanical, Criteria, Spirit etc... Can anyone tell what's the message behind each lineup?

Also when they come out with a cult fav... the monsters for example....I can't brain why they dilute it by doing a monster-like Seiko 5.

Maybe its the global conditions but they aren't exactly doing brilliant as of late.

http://www.seiko.co.jp/en/ir/financial/hilight.php

Anyway... I'm just saying that Seiko have so much backstory and heritage that its a shame that they didn't make full use of it compared with lesser western "brands"