Forumer you are complaining against: Kityee009

Item being sold/bought: Red Rotala (Water plant)

Original thread link: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2087966&hl=

Date of transaction: 3rd Nov 2011

Details of the complaint :

First of all,

his thread write RM8 include postage. I sent him an PM. then he said RM15 include postage. then later i ask him why his thread is written there as RM8 include postage, then he promise me RM8 for poslaju. then after i bank in n provide him my address. he called me and asked me whether can cod at the meant time also ask my facebook account. I thought he is just a friendly seller and so i added him.

At that time i am not sure whether can go the area that he mention so i just ask him wait first loh. But then I could not make it hence i asked him to post it to me. He agree but he still did not post it to me via POSLAJU. after that one of my colleague want to help. but then later also can't make it. coz my colleague not going there. then few days later i called him to check with him that i will going to that area. he is not willing to go there go its jam. then i ask him to post to me. u know what? he ask me to top up another RM2 for poslaju.

Kanasai betul. then i refused to top up since he already promise me to provide me poslaju. then he said that RM8 is for normal post and he want to post using normal pos. Because that time i just refuse to top up and i am not urgent to get that. then i agree to ask him use normal post. after few day i check with him again whether he post it or not. then last few days i sms him. he said he already send to me.

Honestly, i felt i was being cheated. He just agree everything before i make payment then change later.

U know the worst thing is what? he said if i did not received he will delivery personally to me. then later he said he likes me and wanna see me. i am scared and replied him saying i am a buyer and he is a seller. and i ask him don't think too much. this happens on yesterday. I don't dare to answer his call and i feel this is a harassment.

now i still not sure whether he got send to me or not. or pretend to be sent then later i tell him no received and say wan see me. this is very irritating. i have check with other lowyat forumer, he said even if i received it, my red rotala sure die.


first time encounter this kind of seller. and i think i should tell forumer to be aware of this seller. Well, i am not asking for any refund. I am willing to lost RM8 for learning a lesson.

**P.S: I am just a normal forumer and started planted aquarium not long ago. I did received many helps from other seller. Also, I am a normal girl and not a leng lui. haha

This is the PM i excluded my mailing address, i will try to update the sms from him.

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Added on November 18, 2011, 9:13 amI grab the latest sms, those previous sms was just checking COD details.






21 Nov 2011,

Please check on the post below.

This post has been edited by TianYin86: Nov 21 2011, 12:17 PM

Nico, if that day i came and tell you this? will you throw me from 8th floor? lol~

This post has been edited by weijie: Nov 18 2011, 09:21 AM

lol you are a girl and he want to rape see you..

Anyway pls PM him about this thread so he can come explain, if any.

Whoa scary. Explanation from the seller needed right now. TS, stay safe.

If she or he want you to top up RM2 then this one use pos express also can save alot money makesure address put correctly avoid post to your neighbour

Weijie, i know you won't do that. haha

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Added on November 18, 2011, 10:08 ameh.. all, now i very scared of this seller. i just hope he don't want to call me or kacau me. honestly, i am willing to waste RM8 de. rather than meet him (he mention he wants to delivery to me personally). I think i will be danger if i meet him.. wahahahaha!!

also, thanks for other nice forumer who pm me and willing to spare me their red rotala or water plant. At least in Lowyat forum, there is still a lot of good/nice forumer.

This post has been edited by TianYin86: Nov 21 2011, 08:39 PM

At first in his sales thread he already mentioned that rm8 is including Postage. In plants postage we never use normal parcel or normal mail because it will take some time to reach buyer.

Oops.. in both sms last afew conversations become seller tackling buyer pula. alamak so savage..

quoted and put here first

100% genuine stalker.. meet him belasah saja

also u should bracket your topic

Please Beware Of This Seller (Especially Female)



This post has been edited by -j-t-: Nov 18 2011, 02:25 PM

this is some interesting dispute case

Lol.. actually i was thinking to edit to that title one... haha.. should i??

... so, have you received the plant or still nothing, up to date?

Nope, I did not received anything until now.. And I think the plant will die even if I received it..

This is still a very new & interesting dispute in here. If he scares the hell out of you, the only thing you can do to protect yourself is to lodge a police report.

P.s. Now I know that the TS is a pretty lady from the dispute. And, I'm no stalker.

This post has been edited by digitalz: Nov 19 2011, 08:45 AM

Get a full refund (even if he say he can deliver the goods), get rid of him from your FB, and look for the plant elsewhere.

Not worth get yourself stalked/harassed.

Yup, I already remove him from FB.. Regarding on refund.. Just treat me throw the money to the sea. I don't wish to contact him anymore.. (maybe I am scared of him).. Or he contact me.. Just stay away from me.. This thread is just to remind all the female buyer. But this kind of thing, you can't predict. Just be extra careful, at least don't simply give your FB. Lol...

Did you send this link to him?
u shud know who i m

Nope.

Hi All,

Just to update you all on my red rotala. I am very very sad to see my red rotala... koh lian dai... heartbroken when i open the envelope..

I am definitely felt very when i saw this envelope. Please la.. promise me to give me poslaju (RM6).. then this idiot seller change to normal post (RM1).. then the packaging.. USING A MEDICINE ZIP BAG!! WTF??? This seller really stingy like hell..







This post has been edited by TianYin86: Nov 21 2011, 12:18 PM

Kesian....Still living?

I am not so sure.. but i can see the leaf like koyak koyak like that... i need to wait until i back home only can check. not i put it into a water bottle... very sad la....

I think he's just flirting with everyone possibility to get laid. hahaha

Really bad packaging summore with cough medicine LoL. Germs~ lol

i have put this guy under minor list and he really deserve it. bad seller.

habis ~~~

not even covered with wet cotton to keep the moisture...

plus use normal mail

where is his The plant will be put in a sealed bag filled with CO2.

CELAKA... SELLER HERE !

The bag is fill with CO2 and properly packaged to avoid water leak.

the water packaged is added with liquid fertilizer.

The plant will be able to grow and I did not CHEAT her !

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Added on November 21, 2011, 5:47 pmIf she further spoil my name again, I am going to take action.

This post has been edited by KitYee009: Nov 21 2011, 05:47 PM

Hi mind explaining how u did not cheat her of the poslaju charge?

My thread says RM 8 include postage.. NOT Pos Laju.

Mod please delete this thread.

I am innocent.

First time meet girl like this.

I have delivered to many bro using the same method, no problem at all.

ermmm.. mind to explain how u can fill a normal med bag with co2 + water + liquid fert ?

Wow he's really coming for you??? TianYin86 better be careful for this...

Ya. I am going to make a police report later.

Dear seller,

Just a warning for you to resolve thing peacefully.if you want to do crazy things, dont think it will be hard for lyn members here to track you and look for you too.

TS, post the pulis report here and report here if needed any help

em.... read through the SMS u sent and the print screen it tells most of the stories. Do you think that is just a normal dealing business and do you still think that you still deserve a "GOOD NAME"? Curios What action you are going to do? Tell the media u fail to tackle a gal?

guys....pls read carefully....



WTF u r talking huhhh????? u said POSTLAJU or POSTAGE ?????

thats ur thread say...but when u deal with her...thats POST LAJU....pls admit !!!!!

plz keep ur mouth....bull s*** seller....

I recalled !!

I told her later that she need to add RM 2 for POS LAJU.

She say she already buy a RM 1K chiller and no money.

So she say just send via normal postage.

She already informed by me that its going to be normal pos and not pos laju.

This part is done thru telephone conversation.

TS , I hope u recall this and not simply launch a dispute against me.

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Added on November 21, 2011, 10:11 pmI recalled !!

I told her later that she need to add RM 2 for POS LAJU.

She say she already buy a RM 1K chiller and no money.

So she say just send via normal postage.

She already informed by me that its going to be normal pos and not pos laju.

This part is done thru telephone conversation.

TS , I hope u recall this and not simply launch a dispute against me.

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Added on November 21, 2011, 10:19 pmthat is why I am so surprise to see this dispute against me...

TianYin86, You already agreed on the normal pos...

but you have forgotten it.

I have delivered the plant as promised.

I did not cheat your money.


This post has been edited by KitYee009: Nov 21 2011, 10:19 PM

The way I see it from the PM:

1. Buyer ask if got stock, what postage is being used, ask for a/c.

2. Seller says POSLAJU RM15 (I assume he meant poslaju include plant).

3. Buyer ask why thread written as "RM 8 per 20 pcs (INCLUDE POSTAGE)". And confused why Poslaju is RM 15.

4. Seller says Poslaju RM8 (I assume he meant the Poslaju service will cost RM 8).
(He should have explained to the buyer that the RM8 per 20pcs use normal postage)

5. Buyer say got confused, and assume total plant (and postaga via poslaju) is RM 8.
(I believe this is where buyer confusion about postage vs poslaju takes place).

6. Seller did not notice the error, so he assumed buyer accept the RM8 poslaju service.
(and at this point, I believe both party misunderstood).

This post has been edited by WhatMan: Nov 21 2011, 10:39 PM

Thanks WhatMan.

I agreed.

I say sorry to all for all the trouble.

Ya, I don wan to top up because u promise me to giv me poslaju. Also I recall back u promise me u will give me pslaju. Then y u suddenly ask me to top up rm2? It is Not related to the chiller.. I have my rights not to top up since u already promise me to giv me poslaju!!

I have make a police report. If u wanna come and find me, I will call police directly.

TianYin86, You already agreed on the normal pos...

This post has been edited by TianYin86: Nov 21 2011, 10:42 PM

Please refer to WhatMan statement.

I think is like what he described.

TianYin86 can ask me to refund or cancel deal.

I will be happy to refund you,

but your instruction was - send it by normal post.

and thats what I did.

Yes... I agreed on normal pos.. Why I Need to complaint at here is..

1. He agree to give me postlaju, but then change to normal pos and ask me to top up rm2 to pos laju. I feel being cheated because I feel like he promise everything then after change. Not trustful seller.

2. I am just dealing a water plant with him. Why he want to say he likes me and say want to see me. I feel scared and want to remind all of female buyer.

3. I have mention above, I don't want any refund or anything. Just to let other female customer to be aware of this. Since I already get my plants, I will try to tanam them hope they can survive.

4. I have make a police report if he really come to find me. I will call police directly.

This post has been edited by TianYin86: Nov 21 2011, 10:53 PM

I already said,

if at that moment I ask you to top up RM 2 and you refused.

you can cancel deal and ask me refund.

but you say proceed with the normal post.


So I no wrong leh....

Let's be realistic here. There was clearly a miscommunication between you and seller.

If you think you are being cheated, it is because you cannot get the price that you wanted.

Honestly I think you are a bit too much to expect plants can be sold for RM8 including POSLAJU (that service ain't cheap). Come on la, a few ringgit more and you make big noise about it?

This case is akin to that HDTV that mistakenly shown selling price of $9.99.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=83...=1#.Tspp7_KcnTc

If you insist on demanding that he gave you the price that was based on a misunderstanding, you only make things worse for yourself.

For the plants that I bought from you, I plan to forget it and even if I wasted the rm8, I don't care anymore. However it makes me uncomfortable by your sms content, and the way you convey your message. Can you tell everyone openly, what's your purpose of insisting looking for me face-to-face?

This post has been edited by TianYin86: Nov 21 2011, 11:15 PM

----- Peace All -----

TianYin86 - I will not find you to resolve this anymore.

------ Lets end this ------

To WhatMan, please read from post 1, before you comment anything here. I am unhappy not because of few ringgit, but the harassment from the seller. For god sake please don't comment if you don't know the whole story and not helping either party here.



To KitYee009

Ok, hope that you really put this into end and not harass me anymore.

----- Peace All -----


------ Lets end this ------

I read it clearly, which is why I understand what went wrong.

The harassment is clearly wrong no doubt but cannot say you are right all the way when it comes to the deal that was made between you and the seller.

If you tell me not to comment for "don't know the whole story" then why the hell are you posting your issue in this forum?

TianYin86,

sorry for telling you that I like you.

but after you said we are just buyer and seller relationship.

I stopped.

I sorry for any misunderstanding caused by me.

and I will be very careful next time
when discussing about the postage method of goods to fellow forumer here.

what are you trying to tell here? i seriously hope your not a disgusting person such as the seller KitYee here.

but why are you trying hard in making the buyer look bad ? is that wrong for her to warn the other for what had happen to her ?

you clearly know that its seller's fault for all this mis-understanding, that's why the seller call the buyer AGAIN just to fix his mistake.

normally a steady seller should have cover all the coming expenses which he didn't / mis-inform to the buyer, and for this case, the seller not steady at all (and not to forget the way seller communicate with female buyer, he's just pure cheap taking advantages on female buyer).

therefore I don't see any wrong for the buyer to dispute the seller here, for his fussy dealing method and specially his ignorant in hitting female buyer.


if you are so sure that your a serious seller, why act like a Romeo when know the buyer is a female?

Cheap seller.

Dear all,

Peace Peace Peace....

No more argue please....

Put this to an End now.

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Added on November 22, 2011, 12:44 amThis thread has been put to an END.

No more posting !

This post has been edited by KitYee009: Nov 22 2011, 12:49 AM

disgusting!

know your limit when u dealing, u shd aware of ur own ethics...
damage is done....n no turning back...
hope the seller learn to pay respect to others next time...

to those who think d buyer should not react so...
think again if she is ur closest half, and being approach in such a harassing way...
will u...not angry or overreact if u r lady?

put urself in other's shoes before u critic some1 overreact...

Agree

If the seller has agreed on RM8 inclusive of poslaju, just do it.

Don't be a cheapskate seller to ask for top up or this & that. That was ur fault at 1st, so pls admit it and apologize.

This is 2011 & 2012 is coming real soon, u still think ladies will be scared if u talk loud / rubbish ?

& the main purpose of this thread is to warn others about your harrasment, not only the postage thingy.

DO NOT TRY TO RUN AWAY!

Thanks for all concerns, I just hope this matter will not happens anymore.

To KitYee009, Let's put this end and please do not contact me anymore.

I am agree with irise.ufall.