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weikee
post Jun 24 2013, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 24 2013, 11:52 AM)
Here I conduct some testing regarding humid in several place.

In my bedroom before ON the aircon at 24c.
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After 8hr aircon running.
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Inside my car with aircon ON at 24c.
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In my office aircon ON at 20c.
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The human comfortly humid is around 45%. So it is perfectly find with my daily surrounding place with/without aircon. No need any humidifier.
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Dont know how accurate your meter. I had a dedicated analog meter sometime back, the drop was almost half. For some people they can't take the dry of the Ac. One person is my wife, her throat will feel dry if the humidifier are off. and if you try put a wet towel in the Ac room few hours it will dry. Without Ac the towel will take whole day to dry. Maybe I like cold and is always <24c

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post Jun 24 2013, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 24 2013, 01:36 PM)
Dont know how accurate your meter. I had a dedicated analog meter sometime back, the drop was almost half. For some people they can't take the dry of the Ac. One person is my wife, her throat will feel dry if the humidifier are off. and if you try put a wet towel in the Ac room few hours it will dry. Without Ac the towel will take whole day to dry.  Maybe I like cold and is always <24c
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I have the dry throat too every morning wakeup. Cause the aircon is blowing at me. But it didn'y cause me anything. No sore throat or whatever sickness. Just have a teeth brush and guggle with water will find. But it cause my throat itchiness when I get recover from sore throat. For 1-2days.

This is pretty normal to get dry for any wet thing in aircon room. Even sometime I hang overnight some wet cloth to dry out for next morning wear.

The aircon must get lower humid inorder for you to feel cooler. Otherwise you will need to set the temperature much more lower to get what you want.

The reading taken after wait for about 10min and longer. Not sure the accuracy as this meter is very new. Will check the accuracy with another humid meter.
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post Jun 24 2013, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(justin_nys @ Jun 23 2013, 07:38 PM)
I'm using York, can you guide me how do I turn off dry mode? Serious question....because I can only see "Snow", "Water" and "Fan" mode smile.gif
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"Water" = dry mode nod.gif
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post Jun 24 2013, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 24 2013, 01:36 PM)
Dont know how accurate your meter. I had a dedicated analog meter sometime back, the drop was almost half. For some people they can't take the dry of the Ac. One person is my wife, her throat will feel dry if the humidifier are off. and if you try put a wet towel in the Ac room few hours it will dry. Without Ac the towel will take whole day to dry.  Maybe I like cold and is always <24c
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The meter is accurate. Put inside the camera drybox which have a humid meter too. Both show same reading.

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post Jun 24 2013, 11:20 PM

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Cool.

You play camera too ah. SLT or SLR smile.gif

Maybe you can switch on your a/c till 23 see if your room humid drop till 30-35
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post Jun 25 2013, 12:23 AM

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Want to ask sharp or panasonic better for haze?

2nd question. Which model should I get. Budget about Rm700.
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post Jun 25 2013, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 24 2013, 08:21 PM)
The meter is accurate. Put inside the camera drybox which have a humid meter too. Both show same reading.

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so your conclusion is humidity function does not play an important role in air cond room????just a gimmick point ??
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post Jun 25 2013, 12:52 AM

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i am consider these two model since read ozak reply on the humidity stuff
1)Panasonic Air Purifier PSN-FPMF35A
2)Sharp Air Purifier FUZ31E


which 1 better?

ozak
post Jun 25 2013, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 24 2013, 11:20 PM)
Cool.

You play camera too ah. SLT or SLR smile.gif

Maybe you can switch on your a/c till 23 see if your room humid drop till 30-35
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No more playing with SLR. Freaking heavy bringing all this kit to holiday. Now just have some point and shoot. blush.gif Because still have some SLR accessory that can be use in PnS, have to keep in drybox.

Pitty your wife lah. Set so low temp. tongue.gif

Will conduct the test for 23c next time.
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post Jun 25 2013, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 25 2013, 12:23 AM)
Want to ask sharp or panasonic better for haze?

2nd question. Which model should I get. Budget about Rm700.
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Get whatever you can. You have to check your room size too. Otherwise don't complain not effective.

My office is using sharp old model. It is pretty effective. Cost rm1600.
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post Jun 25 2013, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(renabada @ Jun 25 2013, 12:44 AM)
so your conclusion is humidity function does not play an important role in air cond room????just a gimmick point ??
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Different people different cell and gens. The reading is between the comfort level for me and my wife. And the reading also fall between recommended level. So my conclusion is I don't need a humidifier.

Humid play a role in cool and hot. Not just temperature. 23c seem like cool. But if humid high, you still feel hot. A 28c seem hot to you. But if humid low, you feel cool like 25c.

So if you set your aircon too low temp and you put a humidifier in your room, do you feel hot? Than set lower the temp to compensate it? But your aircon will suck the moisture more if temp lower. I feel like the aircon and humidifier somekind of fighting each other. rclxub.gif

Humidifier mainly is for country which have 4 season. Where some season, the humid is really really low. Our country is humid. That is why our skin is much more nicer than those country. smile.gif
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 25 2013, 08:43 AM)
Get whatever you can. You have to check your room size too. Otherwise don't complain not effective.

My office is using sharp old model. It is pretty effective. Cost rm1600.
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But both will work? Any experience which is better?
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post Jun 25 2013, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 25 2013, 10:54 AM)
But both will work? Any experience which is better?
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What both will work?

I only experience sharp and medklin.
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post Jun 25 2013, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 25 2013, 10:08 AM)
Different people different cell and gens. The reading is between the comfort level for me and my wife. And the reading also fall between recommended level. So my conclusion is I don't need a humidifier.

Humid play a role in cool and hot. Not just temperature. 23c seem like cool. But if humid high, you still feel hot. A 28c seem hot to you. But if humid low, you feel cool like 25c.

So if you set your aircon too low temp and you put a humidifier in your room, do you feel hot? Than set lower the temp to compensate it? But your aircon will suck the moisture more if temp lower. I feel like the aircon and humidifier somekind of fighting each other.  rclxub.gif

Humidifier mainly is for country which have 4 season. Where some season, the humid is really really low. Our country is humid. That is why our skin is much more nicer than those country. smile.gif
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Agree with you. You will actually overburden d a/c by introducing more water to d air. Bcoz air is harder to cool thus you a/c will consume more power.

Your throat get dried for a few reason. One of it, snoring and another one is you sleep with your mouth open. Be it in a/c or not you will get dry throat.
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post Jun 25 2013, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 24 2013, 09:21 PM)
The meter is accurate. Put inside the camera drybox which have a humid meter too. Both show same reading.

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Yeah. Usually those handheld device is accurate enough. Measuring humidity is common just like measuring temperature. Sure they will get error, but it wont be big enough like our friend claim here.
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post Jun 25 2013, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(platinum_12 @ Jun 25 2013, 07:59 PM)
Agree with you. You will actually overburden d a/c by introducing more water to d air. Bcoz air is harder to cool thus you a/c will consume more power.

Your throat get dried for a few reason. One of it, snoring and another one is you sleep with your mouth open. Be it in a/c or not you will get dry throat.
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That are some reason of getting dry throat, and also include dry air.
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QUOTE(platinum_12 @ Jun 25 2013, 08:13 PM)
Yeah. Usually those handheld device is accurate enough. Measuring humidity is common just like measuring temperature. Sure they will get error, but it wont be big enough like our friend claim here.
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Is not claim, you can try to do a measurement from 25c to 20c the drop are not liner. And for me, I don't set the temperature at 24c because is stuffy for me (be it with or without humidifier), my usual setting is 20c +- 1. If 24c I prefer to switch on my ventilation fan and get outside fresh air.
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QUOTE(renabada @ Jun 25 2013, 12:44 AM)
so your conclusion is humidity function does not play an important role in air cond room????just a gimmick point ??
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Depend the outside environment too, if is like the last few days so hot, and at afternoon the humidity level will drop and switch a/c with lower temperature will make room humidity lower and you can use humidifier. If rainy day you don't need because the outside humidity are 90%. i won't switch on the humidifier when is raining.

If you need to get, try get the humidifier that can adjust the amount of mist. Start with lower level.
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post Jun 26 2013, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 25 2013, 11:48 PM)
That are some reason of getting dry throat, and also include dry air.
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If the air is dry, not only throat will suffer. Your skin will suffer the most. Have you heard about placebo effect? a flour pill can heal your illness if you really believe it is the cure for it. Just like the dry throat.
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post Jun 26 2013, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 25 2013, 11:54 PM)
Is not claim, you can try to do a measurement from 25c to 20c the drop are not liner. And for me, I don't set the temperature at 24c because is stuffy for me (be it with or without humidifier), my usual setting is 20c +- 1. If 24c I prefer to switch on my ventilation fan and get outside fresh air.
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R you sure that the device used by bro ozak uses liner concept? Don't argue on the device if the result didn't support you idea. Two devices shows the same reading, so, the reading is true.

Ventilation fan? if outside temperature is 28c how? you will never get 25c by only turning on your ventilation fan. Unless you stay in cameron highlands.

If you run the ac at the same time turning on your ventilation fan, wah.. how much your electricity bill per month? I can see you put extra unnecessary load to your AC, 1) By adding more moisture to the air (humidifier), 2) Allowing warm air to enter your room. wink.gif

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