Well, a lot of recruitment agencies in Singapore have clients in m'sia too.
I guess this is what they call regional HQ.
I received calls coming from Singapore asking if I am interested in a job in M'sia before even with a title stating looking for job in Singapore.

My comment to you wasn't regarding why you came to SG (ie. SG vs MY). It was about why one would take up citizenship instead of continuing with PR.

As for who would hire you in Malaysia?... if you're asking for S$10K/RM25K... admittedly not as many as SG. But if you're talking about a 1:1 comparison ie. RM10K, or even RM12-13K for that matter - it's not much of an issue in KL although the number of such opportunities would be less compared to SG.

Ah Jib Kor's salary is less than 1% of his income.

It's not a loop hole. It's still balloted and the prices of new BTOs are considerably more than the $300K you mentioned, thereby turning inside out the $200K tipping point profit you mentioned when you sell your existing HDB at $500K.

Like I said, I'm talking about citizenship vs PR, not SG vs MY. The fact that I've been here since 2005 means that I believe SG offers me a greener pasture. I just still weighing those benefits of citizenship which are above remaining a PR. At this stage, due to the fact I'm not eligible for any grants, subsidies or concessions of any kind - citizenship is not very appealing to me as I will have to give up my Malaysian citizenship and make the management & continued accumulation of assets in Malaysia wayyyy to troublesome.

Bro,
I understand.
I am already a PMET here. Old man jor.. After all the calculations and money mindedness and safety. I think sg offers me better. You will face the same eventually. Kids is also a primary factor to shift.

The 500K is only and indication. yes, hdb 5room is 300++, my place is also 500++ ma.. sama sama lor... Also I also can get grant, that will help lor. Also I can get cheaper maintenance and also ang pow (legal bribery) from garmen mah. So all these will add up eventually. Faham ka? Did you know that sg people gots all macam angpows? 1 year can be more than 10K ok? Also get business lubang from coaching ma.. manyak manyak lubang ma.. lol.

FYI, being a PR, if you own a house and u suay suay stay at the old location for upgrading. You will have to pay 10 freakin times compared to a local citizen ok? For example lift upgrading. Local pays 3k, PR pays a freakin 30k. The higher you stay, the more you pay. Good luck kawan. You owe me a good bakuteh...

Oh, this citizenship is also good for a revenge at Marlboro Tan.

Can you check Yishun latest BTO prices? Acacia one.

This post has been edited by extremepower: Jan 20 2012, 05:56 PM

PM in banks are diff ler... diff ind are diff... same title nia
banks lor... those selling credit card without qualification also can become manager

I'm not a spring chicken myself.

Since you earn 10K, you must be above the eligibility threshold for most of the angpows, no? Even the GST offset package or the Grow & Share package, childcare subsidies, you qualify onky for the bare minimum. Less if the missus works too. It'll hardly amount to 10K a year.

If you want to talk lobangs... Malaysia has much more than Singapore lah.

27K difference? Not much to be honest. A year's bonus or a year's stock options or less actually... hardly enough to figure much in the decision to give up citizen's right to invest in or diversify into Malaysia.

The point is that SG has one of the most favourable investment and entitlement regimes for PRs/foreigners vis-a-vis citizens, AND by definition one of the most unfavourable environments for citizens vis-a-vis foreigners. And the more income you earn, the truer it becomes. So unless you see yourself in the HDB brigade for the rest of your time in Singapore - I still don't see the financial benefits of going from PR to citizen.

This post has been edited by seantang: Jan 20 2012, 10:31 PM

As accountant you can manipulate money on Fixed Assets..
true ma? just capitalise it on all FAs then depreciate it year by year, the amount will be small to be noticed by auditors ma.

Ok. I think you are pretty well off person already. Rich people no need to convert lor. I also wonder why you come. lol. I am only a ball picker ma...

I believe you still have attachments like parents, inlaws and siblings?

What kind of lubang? So many other lubangs. Get the kangen lubang mau ka? U orang kaya can easily afford la... Don't be too greedy la.. Live moderately and keep it simple... stupid. Blame it on Citibank CIO. lol

There are some secret numbers which I cannot divulge lah... 27K is small? OMG. Then after profiting 200K and then 10 years later, the new flat goes up to another sgd$600K. I can goyang kaki kangkang lo... lol So, 200k + 300K = sgd$500K. So, better do it quick before inflation gets into you.

If you happy now, just keep your citizenship lor. I am not forcing anyone. Just a humble opinion only ma...

Anyway, you like they way Jibby treat you?

Psst.. I can go to Sarawak or Australia anytime. So, it is a matter of pressing the eject button. Primary concern is still safety and health for me. What's your priority? You understand Maslow Hierarchy of needs rite? Am in Self Actualization mode. Goyang here and there jor...

This post has been edited by extremepower: Jan 20 2012, 10:41 PM

wow so good. me work 10years+ title still same, petrol kiosk pump attendance .

I'm a salary earner like most people here and I like the salary in Sg. Especially after exchange rate conversion. That's why I come. I've also been doing this long enough to know that you plan your migration to another country with your future income and living situation in mind. Not plan based on your current circumstances which you will outgrow in due time. In this case, plan with the condo or landed property in mind. HDB is not the end of things.

I don't know. What lobangs did you have in mind? You're the one hinting about lobangs all over this thread like a super-connected MCKK datuk. What I'm saying is that whatever lobang it is, it's bigger and better in Malaysia aka cowboy and ketuanan town.

Of course *shrug*

In the overall scheme of once in a lifetime decisions, yeah. As you earn 10K+ salary, 27K is chup change, no?

I think capital appreciation doesn't discriminate between citizens and PRs.

Nope. That's part of the reason why I'm here in Sg.

Congrats! Your ample safety net is irrelevant to our discussion, but Congrats!

What's my priority? Safety, health, money... Same as everyone else. But I fail to see how a SG PR will have less safety and health than a citizen.

This post has been edited by seantang: Jan 21 2012, 01:18 AM

Seantang, do you want to plan to open the business? The salary man is always salary man, he/she has limited income. If you start your business, the sky is the limit!!

Btw, you miss one underrated word called 'LOVE'.

This post has been edited by Materazzi: Jan 21 2012, 01:26 AM

wah why suddenly got hot debate of sg vs msian citizenship.... I guess there's no correct answer to such questions... just see what suits your plans...

anyway just saw hdb website say that for citizen to buy new hdb must not have disposed of any private property within 30 months of date of application... waddafuqqq!!! any idea when such rule in place.... Iinitially it was need to dispose of pvt property within 6 months once application of new flat approved ma!!!

it's time ! almost 3am, traffic clear, going home

Good..time for me to zzz..u guys wan to meet up in kl??

Or rather owner is it?

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Added on January 21, 2012, 11:20 am0630 just now, the traffic was jammed! Solid from before SG Checkpoint to JB side...

This post has been edited by L7Awesome: Jan 21 2012, 11:20 AM

yesterday, i already kpkb when stuck in the jam before JB custom, then at PLUS highway...reach home almost midnight...stayed almost 7 hours on the road...but, seems today even worst....

now, where to get fire crackers in KL ?

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Added on January 21, 2012, 5:42 pmin KL ? not a change chance. i not familiar with KL road actually.

This post has been edited by Mackiddo: Jan 21 2012, 06:49 PM

Haha...of cos la u work in Sg ma..

happy new year everybod
already get letter from IRB

aahahha

Happy new year to all you Singaporean citizens, permanent residents and employees May the new year bring fortune and a good life

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