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pizzaboy
post Aug 24 2024, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(Selene Yeo @ Aug 18 2024, 10:23 PM)
Currently there are 2 types of storage water heater tank technology,

a. Enamel-coated technology - newer technology, better leak resistance, and cheaper. CENTON (example here - Shopee / Lazada) and ALPHA (example here - Shopee / Lazada) is using this technology.

b. Stainless-steel technology - old technology, more prone to leaking, and more expensive. JOVEN (example here - Shopee / Lazada) is using this technology.
I suggest u to go for CENTON. By far the best-selling and highest 5-star rated storage water heaters on Shopee, and cheapest amongst these 3 brands too.
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Hey thanks for your input. I was about to get the Joven but I'll take a look into the Centon.

A question.

Typically our use case is, just my wife and I live here. We've 3 bathrooms + 1 powder room. The idea is when my parents come to visit Malaysia, they can stay with us so we added extra bathrooms.

We're unlikely to ever all have to use the bathrooms at the same time.

The initial plan was to use two 70L tanks, but it seems a single 90L tank might also do the job.

A penny for your thoughts perhaps?

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post Aug 24 2024, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(YoungMan @ Aug 24 2024, 11:10 AM)
A single 90L tank suffice even with guest/parents simultaneously using the 3 bathrooms. But since you rarely use all 3 bathrooms, can also consider fitting a standard tankless water heater to save energy.
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Alright, good to know. 90L will do then. I don't think I can use the tankless water heater as we're using rain showers for all the baths. They probably don't sell it for that purpose.
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post Aug 24 2024, 02:39 PM

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All our bathrooms are within this single frame, within section 6-7 so I think it'll be pretty ok.

But the hot water, also connects to our dishwashers in the kitchen, washing machine, and kitchen sink which is section 10-11. Based on what you're saying, it seems we would be better served by having multiple smaller ones.

If that's the case, we're thinking of a 70L tank

- master
- powder room
- doggie shower room.
- jacuzzi

50L tank

- guest bathrooms x 2 [to turn on only when guests are around]

30L tank

- dishwashers
- sink
- washing machine

Would this be a pretty solid setup? The 3rd point mentioned which was under-utilised hot water. Do you mean overcapacity?

What disadvantages would that have?

EDIT: Also, are we supposed to turn off the heater for the main room? I typically have never turned off the heater, but some people say I should, some say no need. But most of my heaters have lasted over 10 years.

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post Aug 25 2024, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(Selene Yeo @ Aug 24 2024, 07:02 PM)
For master / powder room / doggie shower room / jacuzzi, suggest u to go for 90L, since there's a jacuzzi involved.
Underutilized means on an daily basis, maybe at most u will only be using 50L of hot water, but u are boiling 90L of hot water. So u are not fully utilizing the remaining 40L of hot water.

Disadvantage is you are wasting electricity, but not significant if u are constantly using the hot water in the tank daily.
IMHO, no issue if u do not want to turn it off if u are using it on a daily basis. If the switch is kept turned on, the thermostat in the storage water heater turns on and off to keep the hot water in the tank (usually at bout 70 to 80°C, depending on brands), but temperature doesn't drop much due to the insulation around the tank to keep the heat in. If u turn off the switch, this thermostat turning on / off to keep the temperature constant won't happen, n u will save more energy at that point of time, but when u turn it on again on the same day, u have to wait for the water to boil again and require the close to the same amount of energy to boil it up. So the energy saving u'll get for turning off the switch is insignificant (again, if u use it on a daily basis), with the downside of having to wait for the water to boil up again.

But do turn it off if you won't be using it for a period of time, eg. the one in your guest room, or if u are away for a holiday.
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Absolute lifesaver. Thank you. I'll adjust accordingly.


 

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