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blanket84
post Nov 16 2019, 04:58 PM

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Can a storage water heater be installed outside the house? On the aircond ledge maybe? I am not really comfortable with the idea of having 50kg thing bolted inside your ceiling.
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post Nov 23 2019, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Nov 23 2019, 12:40 PM)
Sounds like advertising...
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When you post the same link in few different thread, then it is definitely advertising.

I hate pretentious advertising like that. Makes me definitely wouldn’t use their service.
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post Jun 14 2020, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(myproblem @ May 27 2020, 03:41 PM)
Those of you wish to install storage heater, I would suggest you have to think twice before buying Joven product. I have used Joven before and was long lasting but I am not sure now.

Purchase a 35L JH35HE On Oct 2015.
Heating element died and replaced on Jan 2019 (Died around 3.3 years)

Then same element died and replaced on Jul 2019 (died 6 months)

In March 2020, the same element died again (died 8 months).

Now changing to another brand.

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Damn.. I was planning to buy the same model until I read this sweat.gif

So what brand do you recommend?
blanket84
post Jun 26 2020, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(myproblem @ Jun 25 2020, 08:41 PM)
I don't care now, just bought Midea because Modes offers 7 years warranty for tank and 4 years on heating element.

I don't trust other brand that only offers 1 year warranty.

For Midea at least I don't have to bother for 4-5 years
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Hmm.. Midea options looks interesting especially on the price and warranty part.. how was the performance of midea so far? heating time, electricity consumption & etc..
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post Sep 8 2020, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Sep 8 2020, 08:14 AM)
so final installed what brand of the storage tank ?
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Haven't buy any yet. Still doing research, probably by next week only need to decide.
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post Sep 8 2020, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Sep 8 2020, 10:26 AM)
can share what brand and model that already in your list ?

thanks ..
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Joven or Elton only. But Elton is pricier. Couldn't find much review though.
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post Sep 8 2020, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Sep 8 2020, 01:37 PM)
miDea not in your list ?
only rm30 for the installation ....super cheap ...
how the smart water heater switch look like ?
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I'm a bit wary of using unpopular brand. Scared hard to get spare parts if something goes wrong. Like unpopular car brands in Malaysia sweat.gif
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post Sep 8 2020, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Sep 8 2020, 10:49 AM)
Mine is Horizontal. Cannot remember the model but 35L one and only one JH for horizontal, right?

Like I said, I cannot replace myself because no proper tool. It is not difficult. Just remove the wire and turn the heat element out. The element base has screw thread.

As I mentioned, big opening spanner is bulky and space is tight. You cannot unscrew from side. No space. Blocked by wiring cover etc. You need something like big hex spanner that can be inserted straight from behind the heater base. The heater element should be around Rm100 or RM120 the most. If RM250 for everything, then the next fault is worth replacing the whole unit  laugh.gif

I remembered spending Rm120 for everything, meaning the guy only took RM300 ( hmm.gif ). I bought the element RM90 myself and was on the ceiling helping the guy when needed like handing him towel to wipe water  laugh.gif

I have removed all the water through bleeding pipe. The installed said no need to put small bleeding pipe there but I insisted and it drip water into bathroom. Luckily I insisted. Still there was a lot of water flowed out after removing the heater.

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From your experience, would you still recommend Joven?
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post Sep 8 2020, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Sep 8 2020, 01:59 PM)
If you ask if I have any preferred brand, I'd say no based on my electrical knowledge.

For me, water heater is very simple device just like water heater. Any known name will be just fine. The tank is just a stainless steel inner tank with insulator. Heater element is pretty standard.

I'm not sure why my heater last longer and why others shorter. Maybe it is pure luck. I bought Joven since it is known brand and it is the only brand that is available in that shop  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Zot @ Sep 8 2020, 02:00 PM)
Yes. That is the main point to consider when buying appliances. You want to be able to get service easily. If possible the brand nearest to your house.  smile.gif
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I guess I will go with Joven then.

Nobody can really guarantee one brand would last longer than another. There is a lot of factor to consider particularly on the quality of installation.

But what is certain is that some brand can be easily fixed, and some not so easy. I guess since you mentioned that, I’ll put more weight on the maintenance consideration when deciding.

Thanks.
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post Sep 8 2020, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Sep 8 2020, 05:16 PM)
sunon brand something like that ?
spare parts ....do you expect how long the tank can last ?
miDea 4years heating element..7year tank leak warranty ...
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Since there aren't much mechanical parts in the system, I would expect them to last at least 10-15years except for the heating element.
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post Sep 8 2020, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Sep 8 2020, 06:19 PM)
ic ...that's great have that thinking...

so when to install your joven tank ?and decided which model to go?

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Don't know yet. Still waiting for defects to be rectified. Hopefully next week can start reno. Started to lose my patience already.

I'm looking for 35L one.. so if Joven would be JH35 I guess..

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post Sep 8 2020, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Sep 8 2020, 07:04 PM)
already sourcing the price ? jh35 ..jh35he ..jh35ib..jh35heib...

got few models ...so ..which model ?

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Eh. I didn't realized got so many. I saw in their website only vertical & horizontal model only.

Already asked around the price.
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post Sep 9 2020, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Sep 9 2020, 08:13 AM)
what's the price ?
installation charge how much ?
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I got quoted RM610. But i think that’s the basic model. No HE nor IB. I will ask again when I’m really buying.

Installation by my plumber. Price quoted lump sum including installing hot water pipes & everything.
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post Feb 11 2021, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(Hellcryer @ Feb 10 2021, 08:08 PM)
i'm looking for water heater with very low noise for pump, is there any good brand/model for this? i can't find much reviews for water heater,
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I you want no noise, then use storage water heater with main pump. Only noise from water flow comes out thumbup.gif

 

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