M series better built than newer N series due to cost cutting.
TBH all WH also same function internally. Its just an electric heater. Beyond the push start feature in M series DH3-MP1 / MP2 (with pump) you're not really getting anything extra.

This post has been edited by ceo684: Feb 7 2021, 12:02 PM

i'm looking for water heater with very low noise for pump, is there any good brand/model for this? i can't find much reviews for water heater,

In theory its just a basic appliance, nothing special. U can consider M series DH3-MP1 / MP2 (with pump), diff is the colour (pay more for black) only between these two. Comes with supposedly low noise pump but anyhow sure got some sound (won't be totally silent) which will be covered by the water drops noise.

I'm using Panasonic DH-3RP1. Low noise, as it's DC pump.

Cons: not rain shower type

Just browse for DC pump water heaters, they're low noise.

This one no push start button (useful when the shampoo gets in the eyes)
Earliermentioned DH3-MP1 / MP2 got push start and DC pump

I you want no noise, then use storage water heater with main pump. Only noise from water flow comes out

i just checked that my new house currently has very good water pressure, should i still go for water heater with pump ? or just normal water heater? i believe the pump is only for water pressure but not for instant water heating right?

This post has been edited by Hellcryer: Feb 11 2021, 04:56 PM

Can look at centon or joven storage models.

Storage heater is good as there will be sufficient heated water to cope with high flow rate.
Your rain shower will still have the good cold water pressure and flow rate from the existing pump.
This cold water is mixed with hot water from the storage tank using a mixer valve (just like hotel u can adjust the % between hot and cold), the mixer valve output = what will come out from the rain shower.

One thing about pressurised water pipes, better to use screw fittings than just the elcheapo chloroform joint fittings and ensure usable access to pipe joints in the ceilings, don't bury everything under concrete coz you are "high risk" to get leaks from higher pressure water.

Newer models from Pana prone to cost cutting.
You can try to get the N series, but if I were paying good money, I will just get the M series (previous tried and true model), price wise its cheaper than N series.
No point wasting too much money on a basic appliance. Unless of course, money no object.

Only Pana and Hitachi offer push start feature.
The cheaper models with no push start.. no difference with other brands' products.

This post has been edited by ceo684: Feb 11 2021, 07:10 PM

I hardly find reviews on water heaters. Since it’s an apartment and I will need the ones with pump and shortlisted to these models:

1) For shared bathroom:
Panasonic DH-3RP1 or Toshiba DSK38ES3

2) For master bedroom bathroom (I prefer rain shower type):
Rubine SSE-891D or Rubine IA991D or same Toshiba model as above but rain shower type.

Are they OK or any better recommendation? Budget is around RM 450 for non rain shower and below RM 700 for rain shower.

For apartment are you sure you need pump model for (1)?
Coz usually high rise they pressurise the water feed to unit already.

Yeah, I guess I will need one based on the comment from others. Pricing wise, just a bit difference but for peace of mind? Any advice from your end?

For the non rain shower..
I stay in rumawip and the water pressure is actually strong enough (I set the main water valve at 50% to reduce pipe leaks that some of my neighbours faced)
In actual fact I'm maxing out the heat (90-100%) to have a warm shower even with non-pump 3600W model hence the question do you really need a pump for high rise (especially new project)



Pana got push start button and very easy to get minor parts online (like new hose/new shower head after maybe 10 years it gets clogged with limescale inside, change the hose and head made the National WH pressure strong again in my parents' place)
Toshiba slightly hotter at 3800W heater (Pana is 3600W).
For me I prioritise the push start button for convenience when the shampoo gets in the eyes..just feel for the WH box.. press push start..ta-dah rather than trying to find the valve to open it.

For the rain shower one..
The pressure concern also (if high pressure), then you don't need a pump WH, but should be looking at 4800W highlands model (need upgraded wiring) to ensure water is still hot enough for rain shower (as creating the ultimate rain shower a la hotel style, requires strong water pressure + storage heater type of water heater).

If you're certain the base water pressure isn't strong, then the DSK38ES3MB-RS Toshiba should be better i.e. warm enough (3800W) even after boosted by its pump, for its bundled rain shower kit.
The 3800W Toshiba is slightly more powerful than the first Rubine 3600W.

This post has been edited by ceo684: Feb 22 2021, 09:32 PM

Thanks for the tips! I may get the Pana first since there is a deal of RM 399 today. If without pump, which model do you have in mind now?

As for the rain shower, your advice is noted. So Toshiba ya? After sales service is OK?

This post has been edited by fruitie: Feb 23 2021, 02:15 AM

No prob
Without pump the equivalent (push start) one will be DH-3MS1 / DH-3MT1

MS1 is white
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/panasoni...1689248923.html

MT1 is black
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/panasoni...1997712230.html

Functionally the same, just the colour choice (black costs more)

On Toshiba service.. http://toshiba.com.my/service-centres/
Aside from the Glenmarie HQ - most of the other regions are serviced by their local dealers nowadays, the HQ still exists even after midea took over, don't worry.

Haven't interacted with Toshiba appliances' SC for warranty claim actually; but for other business unit (laptop service) was OK (got a motherboard replaced in warranty).

aircon died after 15+ years so didn't deal with them;
fridge uneconomical repair - died in 6 years;
washing machine still working.

OK, I have added those into my cart.

Wah, thanks for your insight on Toshiba services. Looks good, will choose it over Rubine then.

I am using 1 Joven with pump. 880P.
3 years now without problem..
Just for reference..

Good day all,

Kindly recommend me a good shower water heater (without rain shower type). Budget around RM500-RM900.

Currently using Panasonic DH-3NP2MS and really deeply disappointed with this quality brand.

Big fan of Panasonic shower water heater for a long time but now I have to think other brand.

This model DH-3NP2MS I already change 2 times within 1 year! Problem on the mechanism can't shut off water properly after press button off. I have to open the shower water heater cover manually and press like a needle inwards to shut off water. Still under warranty and they change the parts 2 times.

Best part the problem still occur after a while using it. Demand to change a new one and they agree. After change to new one and one year has passed, same problem happening again and can't claim warranty.

Now have to do manually open the shower water heater cover manually and press like a needle inwards to shut off water.

Probably design flaw (N series has been known to be a lemon due to extreme cost cutting) hence I always recommend getting the previous M series WH.
Assuming you're fed up already can try Hitachi HES-36WPY https://www.lazada.com.my/products/hitachi-...s441981970.html

This has push start and a DC pump. 488 only. No rain shower.

*Only Pana and Hitachi got the push start feature.

If your incoming water pressure is strong, just get a simple instant WH w/o pump and that can serve you well..

Thanks for the advise. Was aiming Hitachi and Rinnai brand.

Upon checking Rinnai Malaysia website they have new shower water heater (https://www.rinnai.com.my/product/domestic/electric-water-heater/rei-e380dp-c-bg-sandy-beach/) and comes with 2 years warranty.