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Anyone remember this? Half a century (50 years) ago, Brunei, Malaysia and Singapore shared a common currency - valuing at the same rates with each others. At that time, they were of 5 separate entities; Brunei, British Malaya, British Strait Settlements, British North Borneo, and Sarawak.

The Straits Dollar was introduced in 1904 to be the currency for the Strait Settlements (which consisted of Singapore, Malacca, Penang and Dinding), the Federated Malay States and the Unfederated Malay States, and Brunei. It however, can also be used in Sarawak and British North Borneo.

Prior to this, the Malay States used the British Trade Dollar, the Strait Settlements used the Indian Rupee (being governed directly from the office in India), and Brunei used the Brunei Pitis.

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The Straits Dollar depicting UK King George V

Sarawak had its own currency since 1858, known as the Sarawak Dollar

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While the British North Borneo also had its own currency, the British North Borneo Dollar since 1882. The British North Borneo is today known as Sabah.

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In 1939, the Straits Dollar was replaced by the Malayan Dollar, which became the official currency for the Strait Settlements, British Malaya and Brunei. The currency was temporarily interrupted in World War 2, in which the Japanese issued the famous Japanese 'Banana notes'.

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The Malayan Dollar, depicting UK King George VI

In 1953, the British decided to merge everything into one, replacing the Malayan Dollar with the Malaya and British Borneo Dollar. The Sarawak Dollar and the British North Borneo Dollar were then retired. The new currency became the official currency in Brunei, Malaya, Singapore, British North Borneo, and Sarawak.

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The Malaya and British Borneo Dollar, depicting UK Queen Elizabeth II

In 1957, Malaya gained independence from UK, and in 1963 Malaysia was formed, with Singapore expelled in 1965. By 1967, the three countries (Brunei, Malaysia and Singapore) began to issue their own currencies. The Malaya and British Borneo Dollar officially came to an end in 1969.

The three countries however, signed a currency interchangeable agreement putting their currencies at par with each other (SGD$1 = RM1 = BND$1) In 1973, Malaysia, the largest economy of the three, decided to terminate the agreement. Brunei and Singapore continue with the Agreement until today. In 2007, Brunei and Singapore celebrated their 40 years anniversary of the currency interchangeable agreement. Today SGD$1 = BND$ = RM2.4

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Brunei & Singapore Dollar depicting the 40 yrs anniversary of currency interchangeability agreement - 2007

For 50 years now, we take a look back at Brunei, Malaya, British North Borneo, Sarawak and Singapore, with British North Borneo and Sarawak joining Malaya to form Malaysia while Brunei and Singapore go their own ways.

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so when our currency is same,

i can laugh at Bruneian
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now singapore and brunei laugh at us >9000 over
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QUOTE(nocturnal86 @ Nov 13 2011, 12:00 PM)
so when our currency is same,

i can laugh at Bruneian
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lol u tot brunei so maju one?have u ever gone there? yes they r rich but becoz lazyness they r not so developed.
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QUOTE(izzat003 @ Nov 13 2011, 12:08 PM)
lol u tot brunei so maju one?have u ever gone there? yes they r rich but becoz lazyness they r not so developed.
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now they are shopping in Sarawak or Sabah because of the currency.


so if our currency are the same, we can go there shopping.



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QUOTE(izzat003 @ Nov 13 2011, 12:08 PM)
lol u tot brunei so maju one?have u ever gone there? yes they r rich but becoz lazyness they r not so developed.
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not becos lazyness u idiot
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QUOTE(keaizer @ Nov 13 2011, 12:16 PM)
not becos lazyness u idiot
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of lazyness la idiot..
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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Nov 13 2011, 11:59 AM)


The three countries however, signed a currency interchangeable agreement putting their currencies at par with each other (SGD$1 = RM1 = BND$1) In 1973, Malaysia, the largest economy of the three, decided to terminate the agreement. Brunei and Singapore continue with the Agreement until today. In 2007, Brunei and Singapore celebrated their 40 years anniversary of the currency interchangeable agreement. Today SGD$1 = BND$ = RM2.4
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QUOTE(keaizer @ Nov 13 2011, 12:16 PM)
not becos lazyness u idiot
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then?
becoz they r poor?
becoz they r small?
becoz they lack manpower?

state the reason when u objecting,so u will look smart when saying others idiot or else its the way round
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QUOTE(izzat003 @ Nov 13 2011, 12:08 PM)
lol u tot brunei so maju one?have u ever gone there? yes they r rich but becoz lazyness they r not so developed.
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They enjoy their life, unlike you have to work everyday out just to earn as much as them.
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QUOTE(jiaxun @ Nov 13 2011, 12:22 PM)
They enjoy their life, unlike you have to work everyday out just to earn as much as them.
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i rather work.eventhough i got my rumah burung i still look for contracts just so i wont be sitting in front pc 24/7 like u
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Nov 13 2011, 12:19 PM)
LOL  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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LOL...Why they go terminate.. sweat.gif
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malaysia is a fakap country

if 2012 is false, better migrate to other country yo
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QUOTE(rock_star @ Nov 13 2011, 12:33 PM)
malaysia is a fakap country

if 2012 is false, better migrate to other country yo
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migrate now la mongrel
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QUOTE(izzat003 @ Nov 13 2011, 12:35 PM)
migrate now la mongrel
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wait 2013 first

if 2012 happen, membazir tenaga je aku migrate
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QUOTE(rock_star @ Nov 13 2011, 12:38 PM)
wait 2013 first

if 2012 happen, membazir tenaga je aku migrate
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or wait for malaysia to bankrupt in 2019 tongue.gif
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QUOTE(izzat003 @ Nov 13 2011, 12:24 PM)
i rather work.eventhough i got my rumah burung i still look for contracts just so i wont be sitting in front pc 24/7 like u
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Which pangkat are you in tentera? I know the higher position you are the higher % of bribe money you get. No wonder you like to work.
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QUOTE(izzat003 @ Nov 13 2011, 03:08 PM)
lol u tot brunei so maju one?have u ever gone there? yes they r rich but becoz lazyness they r not so developed.
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I think u havnt been to brunei & look at the real people in the industry. & compare with Malaysia; I think Malaysia in office more lazy.

the problem why brunei not developed is its structural economy inside; Until sultan wish to shake things up.
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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Nov 13 2011, 12:39 PM)
or wait for malaysia to bankrupt in 2019 tongue.gif
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ah jib wont let this happen
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stupid move lol. terminate for what. where the Malaysian economist that time,, still studying at scholar perhaps. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Nov 13 2011, 01:42 PM)
I think u havnt been to brunei & look at the real people in the industry. & compare with Malaysia; I think Malaysia in office more lazy.

the problem why brunei not developed is its structural economy inside; Until sultan wish to shake things up.
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I worked in Brunei, always dealing with Gov. there. It take 2-3 weeks for approval (min).

Thats the fact, waiting for Sultan to shaken all the thing. Msian People here make a lot of money due to they laziness. Thank god
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QUOTE(jiaxun @ Nov 13 2011, 12:42 PM)
Which pangkat are you in tentera? I know the higher position you are the higher % of bribe money you get. No wonder you like to work.
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bodoh. retired edy.thats y i said i look for cntract.

and fyiif u r not highest position in a unit,bribe is a dream.who would bribe a captn who in charge of a platoon or major who in charge of company.they go straight bribe the c.o .and usually co didnt get bribed.contractor give money so camp/unit can maintain their events which usualy short funded by the gomen becoz cuts in mindef budget by stupid gomen.not for themself.only some of them ask golfing funds fron contrctr or for private use or some corrupt perolehan officer.

so stop tok kok when u didnt know even slightest glance of situation in mindef

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whats all this about?
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QUOTE(izzat003 @ Nov 13 2011, 01:06 PM)
bodoh. retired edy.thats y i said i look for cntract.

and fyiif u r not highest position in a unit,bribe is a dream.who would bribe a captn who in charge of a platoon or major who in charge of company.they go straight bribe the c.o .and usually co didnt get bribed.contractor give money so camp/unit can maintain their events which usualy short funded by the gomen becoz cuts in mindef budget by stupid gomen.not for themself.only some of them ask golfing funds fron contrctr or for private use or some corrupt  perolehan officer.

so stop tok kok when u didnt know even slightest glance of situation in mindef
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So why did Malaysia terminate the agreement? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(izzat003 @ Nov 13 2011, 12:08 PM)
lol u tot brunei so maju one?have u ever gone there? yes they r rich but becoz lazyness they r not so developed.
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Nov 13 2011, 12:42 PM)
I think u havnt been to brunei & look at the real people in the industry. & compare with Malaysia; I think Malaysia in office more lazy.

the problem why brunei not developed is its structural economy inside; Until sultan wish to shake things up.
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QUOTE(dilfadil81 @ Nov 13 2011, 01:04 PM)
I worked in Brunei, always dealing with Gov. there. It take 2-3 weeks for approval (min).

Thats the fact, waiting for Sultan to shaken all the thing. Msian People here make a lot of money due to they laziness. Thank god
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I do agree with some of the thing you say. Brunei is a slow-paced country. You think waiting 2-3 weeks is extremely long cause you're used to how Malaysia Govt works.

Brunei is not that developed reason is due to they are not trying to expand Brunei. They don't need to build malls to attract more tourist or accepting foreigners to set-up heavy industry factory in Brunei. Their oil reserves can last them for 100s of years which is more than enough to run Brunei Economy.
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In 1939, the Straits Dollar was replaced by the Malayan Dollar, which became the official currency for the Strait Settlements, British Malaya and Brunei. The currency was temporarily interrupted in World War 2, in which the Japanese issued the famous Japanese 'Banana notes'.

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The Malayan Dollar, depicting UK King George VI

In 1953, the British decided to merge everything into one, replacing the Malayan Dollar with the Malaya and British Borneo Dollar. The Sarawak Dollar and the British North Borneo Dollar were then retired. The new currency became the official currency in Brunei, Malaya, Singapore, British North Borneo, and Sarawak.

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The Malaya and British Borneo Dollar, depicting UK Queen Elizabeth II

In 1957, Malaya gained independence from UK, and in 1963 Malaysia was formed, with Singapore expelled in 1965. By 1967, the three countries (Brunei, Malaysia and Singapore) began to issue their own currencies. The Malaya and British Borneo Dollar officially came to an end in 1969.
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read back on your history! mallaysia was never colonialised! mad.gif
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I do agree with some of the thing you say. Brunei is a slow-paced country. You think waiting 2-3 weeks is extremely long cause you're used to how Malaysia Govt works.

Brunei is not that developed reason is due to they are not trying to expand Brunei. They don't need to build malls to attract more tourist or accepting foreigners to set-up heavy industry factory in Brunei. Their oil reserves can last them for 100s of years which is more than enough to run Brunei Economy.
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well.somebody tot he know brunei alot. rajin konon.if rajin than mesian with such asset xkan mcm 3nd world country liddat

and mana yg kondem tentra tu.mai a baca.ke dah baca tapi kecut teloq?
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QUOTE(izzat003 @ Nov 13 2011, 01:06 PM)
bodoh. retired edy.thats y i said i look for cntract.

and fyiif u r not highest position in a unit,bribe is a dream.who would bribe a captn who in charge of a platoon or major who in charge of company.they go straight bribe the c.o .and usually co didnt get bribed.contractor give money so camp/unit can maintain their events which usualy short funded by the gomen becoz cuts in mindef budget by stupid gomen.not for themself.only some of them ask golfing funds fron contrctr or for private use or some corrupt  perolehan officer.

so stop tok kok when u didnt know even slightest glance of situation in mindef
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Guess you are not high pangkat enough. You are just the "KFC" level, which that by means just give you a meal to shut your mouth up.

I even know who is the middleman, in person, for the rice that you have eaten for the past 18 years.


QUOTE(izzat003 @ Nov 13 2011, 03:48 PM)
well.somebody tot he know brunei alot. rajin konon.if rajin than mesian with such asset xkan mcm 3nd world country liddat

and mana yg kondem tentra tu.mai a baca.ke dah baca tapi kecut teloq?
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You lost in the wood too long? You don't know who is Taib? Just one of the examples where the money goes to cronies instead of the real development. That's why even Malaysia with so much of natural resources, the economy is worse than brunei and singapore.
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If they still kept the agreement, then I can go shopping in singapore buy electronics for lower tax.


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QUOTE(izzat003 @ Nov 13 2011, 03:48 PM)
well.somebody tot he know brunei alot. rajin konon.if rajin than mesian with such asset xkan mcm 3nd world country liddat

and mana yg kondem tentra tu.mai a baca.ke dah baca tapi kecut teloq?
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sad to tell you, I'm from Brunei =3.

The government was planning on setting up tourist attractions and stuff a couple of years back and they found a new oil rig. Not as single damn was given after that.

and now with all your "knowledge" then i can say the same thing back. Well, somebody thought he know Brunei a lot.
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We are taking risk if we share same currency.

See what happen to Europe or Euros
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I want my sarawak dollars back!
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We are taking risk if we share same currency.

See what happen to Europe or Euros
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We are actually the winner if we join for the new currency together with brunei and singapore. where as the latters will be the losers.
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QUOTE(ahtiven @ Nov 13 2011, 04:03 PM)
I want my sarawak dollars back!
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should declare sarawak as a country, get out from mareshia tongue.gif
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Oh btw, izzat,

Just so you know, I would say another reason why Brunei is not highly develop is because the current Sultan loves it's people.

1) They charge low oil price @ B$0.53 for 1 litre of RON97 and that is RM1.10 per litre?
2) Car tax are amazingly low, You buy one vios at Malaysia, in Brunei we can buy two. Tax are as low as 15% and highest is 25%
3) There's no beggar in Brunei. The govt will provide you a simple house and a job to keep your life going on.

and many more~
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QUOTE(jiaxun @ Nov 13 2011, 04:05 PM)
We are actually the winner if we join for the new currency together with brunei and singapore. where as the latters will be the losers.
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it is not easy to have the same currency...
the monetary policies have to be same and a lot of others complication have to factor in as well.
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QUOTE(izzat003 @ Nov 13 2011, 01:06 PM)
bodoh. retired edy.thats y i said i look for cntract.

and fyiif u r not highest position in a unit,bribe is a dream.who would bribe a captn who in charge of a platoon or major who in charge of company.they go straight bribe the c.o .and usually co didnt get bribed.contractor give money so camp/unit can maintain their events which usualy short funded by the gomen becoz cuts in mindef budget by stupid gomen.not for themself.only some of them ask golfing funds fron contrctr or for private use or some corrupt  perolehan officer.

so stop tok kok when u didnt know even slightest glance of situation in mindef
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QUOTE(jiaxun @ Nov 13 2011, 04:05 PM)
We are actually the winner if we join for the new currency together with brunei and singapore. where as the latters will be the losers.
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Not really actually.....
If we have the currency of Singapore right now on the situation of Malaysia today.
Malaysia will face

No Foreign Direct Investment to our country due to higher exchange rate.
Cost of Living might decrease but, inflation rise

So... There is good and bad, but with Malaysia right now i think is very bad cause Malaysia rely on Export alot 30% +
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QUOTE(viruz019 @ Nov 13 2011, 04:09 PM)
Oh btw, izzat,

Just so you know, I would say another reason why Brunei is not highly develop is because the current Sultan loves it's people.

1) They charge low oil price @ B$0.53 for 1 litre of RON97 and that is RM1.10 per litre?
2) Car tax are amazingly low, You buy one vios at Malaysia, in Brunei we can buy two. Tax are as low as 15% and highest is 25%
3) There's no beggar in Brunei. The govt will provide you a simple house and a job to keep your life going on.

and many more~
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This. Used to live there for the pass 16 years until I graduated my Form 5. It's such a peaceful country to live in, but downside is not much entertainment. Now that Jerudong Park is a cliffhanger, economy has gotten worse day by day. But I do highly respect Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah.
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it is not easy to have the same currency...
the monetary policies have to be same and a lot of others complication have to factor in as well.
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QUOTE(munak991 @ Nov 13 2011, 04:12 PM)
Not really actually.....
If we have the currency of Singapore right now on the situation of Malaysia today.
Malaysia will face

No Foreign Direct Investment to our country due to higher exchange rate.
Cost of Living might decrease but, inflation rise

So... There is good and bad, but with Malaysia right now i think is very bad cause Malaysia rely on Export alot 30% +
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You do realise that new currency doesn't mean we need to change to the rate of current SGD rate right?
What you want from a common currency is rate stability, which is multifactorial.
Ask yourself, would you want to invest in a country with stable currency? or a country with fluctuating currency?
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malaysia is a fakap country

if 2012 is false, better migrate to other country yo
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QUOTE(viruz019 @ Nov 13 2011, 04:09 PM)
Oh btw, izzat,

Just so you know, I would say another reason why Brunei is not highly develop is because the current Sultan loves it's people.

1) They charge low oil price @ B$0.53 for 1 litre of RON97 and that is RM1.10 per litre?
2) Car tax are amazingly low, You buy one vios at Malaysia, in Brunei we can buy two. Tax are as low as 15% and highest is 25%
3) There's no beggar in Brunei. The govt will provide you a simple house and a job to keep your life going on.

and many more~
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then why still got many bruneian migrates to other country for career? hmm.gif
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then why still got many bruneian migrates to other country for career? hmm.gif
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Brunei was smart in not joining the Malaysian Federation.
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Reason is because the Sultan of Brunei will come in last place to become Sultan of the federation. And Brunei have to surrender all their resources to the federation.

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then why still got many bruneian migrates to other country for career? hmm.gif
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Anywhere in the world also good what, why does people wanna migrate? This is call personal choice. Don't tell me live your lives by the rule. Government ask you go die then you go die?

Please lah simple common sense. -.-
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Anywhere in the world also good what, why does people wanna migrate? This is call personal choice. Don't tell me live your lives by the rule. Government ask you go die then you go die?

Please lah simple common sense. -.-
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not connected at all... =.=
brunei govt. don't allowed its people to leave? that's what ur trying to say? laugh.gif
-cmi- got more common sense in the answer biggrin.gif

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Brunei was smart in not joining the Malaysian Federation.
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Brunei memang dun1 to join Malaysian Federation at the 1st place during TAR visit and convince Sultan Brunei.

If u know why malaysia flag has 14 stripes, is bcos Malaysian Federation used to have 14 states which is including Singapore.
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Guess you are not high pangkat enough. You are just the "KFC" level, which that by means just give you a meal to shut your mouth up.

I even know who is the middleman, in person, for the rice that you have eaten for the past 18 years.
You lost in the wood too long? You don't know who is Taib? Just one of the examples where the money goes to cronies instead of the real development. That's why even Malaysia with so much of natural resources, the economy is worse than brunei and singapore.
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QUOTE(viruz019 @ Nov 13 2011, 04:09 PM)
Oh btw, izzat,

Just so you know, I would say another reason why Brunei is not highly develop is because the current Sultan loves it's people.

1) They charge low oil price @ B$0.53 for 1 litre of RON97 and that is RM1.10 per litre?
2) Car tax are amazingly low, You buy one vios at Malaysia, in Brunei we can buy two. Tax are as low as 15% and highest is 25%
3) There's no beggar in Brunei. The govt will provide you a simple house and a job to keep your life going on.

and many more~
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no wonder so malas.spoiled maleis.deplete oil,becum indon
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reading this thread, i had a minor heart attack seeing how little malaysians know about currencies.

protip: value of currencies dont relate with their economy, it relates to their monetary policy. if you take all malaysian ringgit in circulation and burn them, suddenly 1 rm is >9000 pounds.


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reading this thread, i had a minor heart attack seeing how little malaysians know about currencies.

protip: value of currencies dont relate with their economy, it relates to their monetary policy. if you take all malaysian ringgit in circulation and burn them, suddenly 1 rm is >9000 pounds.
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in their head brunei currency > MYR then brunei more developed.pff what a waste gomen spend alot in MOE instead of MinDef
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Brunei memang dun1 to join Malaysian Federation at the 1st place during TAR visit and convince Sultan Brunei.

If u know why malaysia flag has 14 stripes, is bcos Malaysian Federation used to have 14 states which is including Singapore.
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Three additional stripes were added to the existing flag and the star was given 14 points to reflect the federation of the original 11 states in Malaya plus Sabah, Sarawak, and Singapore; this design remained the same even after Singapore's expulsion from the federation two years later. When Kuala Lumpur was designated a Federal Territory on February 1, 1974, the additional stripe and the point in the star were appropriated to represent this new addition to the federation. Eventually, with the addition of two other federal territories — Labuan in 1984 and Putrajaya in 2001 — the fourteenth stripe and point in the star came to be associated with the federal government in general.
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oh and i thought older ppl are usually more open minded and wont try to pick fights evrywhere,,=,=
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now singapore and brunei laugh at us >9000 over
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Truth hurts......that idiot and his family line who cancel the agreement in 1973 should be shot 9000 times over.
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Truth hurts......that idiot and his family line who cancel the agreement in 1973 should be shot 9000 times over.
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lol u tot brunei so maju one?have u ever gone there? yes they r rich but becoz lazyness they r not so developed.
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msia never dijajah ..why have " mat salleh " currency?
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malaysia has no reason to have strong currency. afterall, its citizens are too dumb to stop buying imported stuff. Its much better for the economy to keep a weak currency to help exporters.
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Which pangkat are you in tentera c4 team crony? I know the higher position you are the higher % of bribe money you get. No wonder you like to work.
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not connected at all... =.=
brunei govt. don't allowed its people to leave? that's what ur trying to say? laugh.gif
-cmi- got more common sense in the answer biggrin.gif
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Read it till you understand.

I'm saying that it's personal choices. Why come /k/? cause u feel like coming. All these are personal choices. If i say never ever go on9 agen..u will listen meh? for wat u listen to me right? thatz why i say. personal choice

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no wonder so malas.spoiled maleis.deplete oil,becum indon
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There you go. This shows u have 0 knowledge on Brunei. What do u mean spoiled maleis? It's a malay country but that doesn't mean no chinese. Don be a blardee racist thanks. I'm a chinese jz so u noe. And lazy? Even if we run out of oil..you seriously think Brunei will habis? Brunei is a pure sultanate country. Sultan say A = A. B=B..he owns lots of properties enough to cover Brunei..how are we malas when a lot of our younger generation are studying abroad? i myself are studying at KL nw. kthxbye
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Read it till you understand.

I'm saying that it's personal choices. Why come /k/? cause u feel like coming. All these are personal choices. If i say never ever go on9 agen..u will listen meh? for wat u listen to me right? thatz why i say. personal choice
There you go. This shows u have 0 knowledge on Brunei. What do u mean spoiled maleis? It's a malay country but that doesn't mean no chinese. Don be a blardee racist thanks. I'm a chinese jz so u noe. And lazy? Even if we run out of oil..you seriously think Brunei will habis? Brunei is a pure sultanate country. Sultan say A = A. B=B..he owns lots of properties enough to cover Brunei..how are we malas when a lot of our younger generation are studying abroad? i myself are studying at KL nw. kthxbye
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In malaysia, you have "1Malaysia" with the chinese malay indians.

In Brunei we have no racism issue, no second class citizen, no differential treatments towards other ethnic groups, and a lot more! Corruption is rampant in Malaysia.

Well, I'd say Brunei is better in terms of the one I mentioned. Lucky enough, chinese and malays receive the same treatment, as long as you are a citizen (regardless a malay, chinese, indian). can you say the same for here?

I'm a bruneian as well, in malaysia biggrin.gif being here really open up my eyes seeing the political scene. Quite something, really. Never regret the decision to be here biggrin.gif Makes me appreciate my country more. My loyalty to the monarch and the nation.

Brunei is underdeveloped? LMAO I wouldnt say its underdeveloped, and of course its not as good as SG or MY. But we are getting better. We are having graduates from Malaysia and abroad who sees the development there, and bring the knowledge back to Brunei. But its bureacracy that prevents this from being implement. But slowly, awareness are increasing. And its a good thing. We might be slow, but we are chilling and going steady. The only reason some bruneians are abroad working are because they prefer the challenge working outside of the country. Some who prefer to enjoy the challenge without the bureaucracy will just go abroad to work. If you work in Brunei, the only way you can make any reforms, are to go through the ministers and upper level officials, and its hard without any connection and titles. These people are usually too comfortable with their position by now. But I do know some of my generations are doing a great deal of work in these, and are still doing them. They are already exposed to the idea of good reforms and development. It might take a good deal of 10 years or more. Its a start.

I myself initially intend to work abroad, but Malaysia has taught me something. Nationalism, patriotism, and nation building. Without the bad elements we have here of course. So I'll be back to play my part as a Bruneian.

Social welfare, 10000000 times better than malaysia.

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I've traveled to Brunei before and it's true.. i cant spot any beggar! Also the people there seem to respect their sultan.. I guess he really take care of the people well.

By the way, i am a singaporean... social welfare here is bad too and people just care about themselves. Here, you can find elderly man/woman pick up food from leftovers in bins..

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Brunei can anytime migrate their whole population anywhere they want, coz they can afford to do it.
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Most Bruneian are not the same as the last time, now most of them are from low income group.
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In malaysia, you have "1Malaysia" with the chinese malay indians.

In Brunei we have no racism issue, no second class citizen, no differential treatments towards other ethnic groups, and a lot more! Corruption is rampant in Malaysia.

Well, I'd say Brunei is better in terms of the one I mentioned. Lucky enough, chinese and malays receive the same treatment, as long as you are a citizen (regardless a malay, chinese, indian). can you say the same for here?

I'm a bruneian as well, in malaysia biggrin.gif being here really open up my eyes seeing the political scene. Quite something, really. Never regret the decision to be here biggrin.gif Makes me appreciate my country more. My loyalty to the monarch and the nation.

Brunei is underdeveloped? LMAO I wouldnt say its underdeveloped, and of course its not as good as SG or MY. But we are getting better. We are having graduates from Malaysia and abroad who sees the development there, and bring the knowledge back to Brunei. But its bureacracy that prevents this from being implement. But slowly, awareness are increasing. And its a good thing. We might be slow, but we are chilling and going steady. The only reason some bruneians are abroad working are because they prefer the challenge working outside of the country. Some who prefer to enjoy the challenge without the bureaucracy will just go abroad to work. If you work in Brunei, the only way you can make any reforms, are to go through the ministers and upper level officials, and its hard without any connection and titles. These people are usually too comfortable with their position by now. But I do know some of my generations are doing a great deal of work in these, and are still doing them. They are already exposed to the idea of good reforms and development. It might take a good deal of 10 years or more. Its a start.

I myself initially intend to work abroad, but Malaysia has taught me something. Nationalism, patriotism, and nation building. Without the bad elements we have here of course. So I'll be back to play my part as a Bruneian.

Social welfare, 10000000 times better than malaysia.
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Your country is just too small. I think just half of million right.
And your country resources just too much to cover whole your citizen.
That's why your leader able to provide better live for whole their citizen.
It more easy to handle your country compare to big country like Malaysia.

Anyway, Malaysia is pretty complicated country. It become much more complicated when some of our rakyat prefer to seperate theirself from other race community and rarely have contact with other race member. We just gonna produce more rakyat that doesn't have enough jati diri. I think only in Malaysia, we got too many type of school in one nation.
To settle this racism issue, Malaysia need some leader that have gut to change this whole system. I think our current system just not practical in produce good rakyat in long term. What i mean good isn't in term of intelligent but more to rakyat that really love and proud with the root of this country.
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Your country is just too small. I think just half of million right.
And your country resources just too much to cover whole your citizen.
That's why your leader able to provide better live for whole their citizen.
It more easy to handle your country compare to big country like Malaysia.
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Yes, that is true. But Malaysia can still be a better country than its current one. Which yourself mentioned below the quoted part. I would like to see that happen smile.gif

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Anyway, Malaysia is pretty complicated country. It become much more complicated when some of our rakyat prefer to seperate theirself from other race community and rarely have contact with other race member. We just gonna produce more rakyat that doesn't have enough jati diri. I think only in Malaysia, we got too many type of school in one nation.
To settle this racism issue, Malaysia need some leader that have gut to change this whole system. I think our current system just not practical in produce good rakyat in long term. What i mean good isn't in term of intelligent but more to rakyat that really love and proud with the root of this country.
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Yes, that is true. But Malaysia can still be a better country than its current one. Which yourself mentioned below the quoted part. I would like to see that happen smile.gif
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Yea. Hopefully. I never went to Brunei. I don't have much idea about the environment of your country since your country is just too low profile. I wish i'll have chance to visit your country sometime soon biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Daniel.N.Amel @ Nov 13 2011, 11:29 PM)
In malaysia, you have "1Malaysia" with the chinese malay indians.

In Brunei we have no racism issue, no second class citizen, no differential treatments towards other ethnic groups, and a lot more! Corruption is rampant in Malaysia.

Well, I'd say Brunei is better in terms of the one I mentioned. Lucky enough, chinese and malays receive the same treatment, as long as you are a citizen (regardless a malay, chinese, indian). can you say the same for here?

I'm a bruneian as well, in malaysia biggrin.gif being here really open up my eyes seeing the political scene. Quite something, really. Never regret the decision to be here biggrin.gif Makes me appreciate my country more. My loyalty to the monarch and the nation.

Brunei is underdeveloped? LMAO I wouldnt say its underdeveloped, and of course its not as good as SG or MY. But we are getting better. We are having graduates from Malaysia and abroad who sees the development there, and bring the knowledge back to Brunei. But its bureacracy that prevents this from being implement. But slowly, awareness are increasing. And its a good thing. We might be slow, but we are chilling and going steady. The only reason some bruneians are abroad working are because they prefer the challenge working outside of the country. Some who prefer to enjoy the challenge without the bureaucracy will just go abroad to work. If you work in Brunei, the only way you can make any reforms, are to go through the ministers and upper level officials, and its hard without any connection and titles. These people are usually too comfortable with their position by now. But I do know some of my generations are doing a great deal of work in these, and are still doing them. They are already exposed to the idea of good reforms and development. It might take a good deal of 10 years or more. Its a start.

I myself initially intend to work abroad, but Malaysia has taught me something. Nationalism, patriotism, and nation building. Without the bad elements we have here of course. So I'll be back to play my part as a Bruneian.

Social welfare, 10000000 times better than malaysia.
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Agreed, but i would say this..People who remains in Brunei as in those who never really go out oversea to stay like for a year, they will never understand how the world really works. I will say Bruneians are too simple minded. They don't know how hard life could be comparing to oversea. I remember that time the govt increase the tax from 20% for all CC car to 15-25% and the people are pretty angry about that sweat.gif

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Agree, Because the jobs we have in Brunei aren't those high-earning job where you can easily earn 10k..but nevertheless, the money they earn are much more than enough for them to lead a comfortable life in Brunei

QUOTE(-cmi- @ Nov 14 2011, 12:31 AM)
Your country is just too small. I think just half of million right.
And your country resources just too much to cover whole your citizen.
That's why your leader able to provide better live for whole their citizen.
It more easy to handle your country compare to big country like Malaysia.

Anyway, Malaysia is pretty complicated country. It become much more complicated when some of our rakyat prefer to seperate theirself from other race community and rarely have contact with other race member. We just gonna produce more rakyat that doesn't have enough jati diri. I think only in Malaysia, we got too many type of school in one nation.
To settle this racism issue, Malaysia need some leader that have gut to change this whole system. I think our current system just not practical in produce good rakyat in long term. What i mean good isn't in term of intelligent but more to rakyat that really love and proud with the root of this country.
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Lesser, 400k+ i remember when i was studying geography about Brunei about 11 or 12 years ago, Brunei population is 360k and 12 years later it increase by a small number xP. Take for example the oil, Brunei are just using 3% of the total oil that they dig up. The others are all exported overseas for income.

I agree Malaysia is a complicated country but being here in Malaysia is a good thing..I actually learn a lot of thing during my 4 year stay here comparing to my life back in Brunei.
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post Nov 14 2011, 12:53 AM


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QUOTE(viruz019 @ Nov 14 2011, 12:46 AM)
Agreed, but i would say this..People who remains in Brunei as in those who never really go out oversea to stay like for a year, they will never understand how the world really works. I will say Bruneians are too simple minded. They don't know how hard life could be comparing to oversea. I remember that time the govt increase the tax from 20% for all CC car to 15-25% and the people are pretty angry about that sweat.gif
Agree, Because the jobs we have in Brunei aren't those high-earning job where you can easily earn 10k..but nevertheless, the money they earn are much more than enough for them to lead a comfortable life in Brunei
Lesser, 400k+ i remember when i was studying geography about Brunei about 11 or 12 years ago, Brunei population is 360k and 12 years later it increase by a small number xP. Take for example the oil, Brunei are just using 3% of the total oil that they dig up. The others are all exported overseas for income.

I agree Malaysia is a complicated country but being here in Malaysia is a good thing..I actually learn a lot of thing during my 4 year stay here comparing to my life back in Brunei.
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During my time it was 500K. Yes... the people are simple minded. Most of the ones coming back from abroad just look for a comfortable and stable life. Only a handful actually having the aspiration to do something for the country. The tax part, LOL people abroad are paying a lot more of taxes than we do! But like you said, most just don't know how hard it can be. baru tah jua sikit naiknya tax atu, ganya like that pun kan beriuh... sad to see their reaction of not knowing the hardship. But hey, they are also people having low income. But majority I would say having enough luxury to live a comfortable life.
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post Nov 14 2011, 01:17 AM


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QUOTE(YameteOniichan @ Nov 13 2011, 09:56 PM)
malaysia has no reason to have strong currency. afterall, its citizens are too dumb to stop buying imported stuff. Its much better for the economy to keep a weak currency to help exporters.
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awak lagi...new batch la ni..... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(izzat003 @ Nov 13 2011, 08:48 PM)
no wonder so malas.spoiled maleis.deplete oil,becum indon
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kata dulang paku serpih...
kata orang dia yang lebih...
bawak istifar ya abang pesara tentera.....huhu
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You know why Malaysia terminate the agreement? Bcos they wanna songlap moneh so they cannot sustain parity....
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2011 Nominal GDP ady lose out to SG..
No nid to mention per capita.. lolx
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