QUOTE(sayang @ Oct 31 2008, 11:43 PM)
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ok....
i'm not tat bright...
i'm facing spm next week...
and my trial oni got 4a's....
and i can tell tat my SPM results wont b gud enuff for any offer...
wat r my chances?
through my undserstanding,
de basic thing u nid is STPM rite? o A levels...wat so ever...
wat abt de IPTA and IPTS?
do they nid STPM results too?
and wat can should i do if i cant cope wif STPM?
heard it is 1 of the toughest exams....but i would like try it...
any suggestions??
btw,
which iz much better?
STPM or straight to college?
Added on November 1, 2008, 12:01 amand btw,
can u not take math subjects in STPM?
juz oni science can ah???You see, the basic procedure to get a degree is like this:
SPM/O-Level -> Pre-u -> Degree
Common pre-U in Malaysia: Matriks / STPM / Foundation
Matriks (Matrikulasi):
- takes about 1 year.
- the certificate is only recognized by Local Uni (a.k.a. IPTA).
- if you are not a bumiputera, u need two things to get in matriks, luck and an excellent result. (90% of Matriks students are Malays.)
- relatively easy and semester base.
- easier to enroll into IPTA compared to any other path.
STPM:
- takes about 2 years.
- the certificate is more widely recognized compared to matriks, it is recognized by both IPTA and IPTS.
- relatively hard, very wide scope and everything is determined by one examination.
- way harder to enroll into IPTA compared to Matriks students.
Foundation:
- takes about 1 year.
- a course in a university before you start your degree course.
- for the foundation of IPTA (a.ka.a asasi), similiar to matriks, if you are not a bumiputera...
- for the foundation of IPTS, this could be the most expensive path.
Beside these, you can also choose to take A-Level, which is simliar and equivalent to STPM. (Or you can say STPM is Malaysia version of A-Level.)
There is no way that you can take science subjects without taking mathematics in STPM.
Anyway, science and mathematics are somehow related in many ways, engineering, science and IT all require mathematics.

If you choose college, means:
SPM -> Diplomma -> Degree
You can stop at Diplomma if you want but please be reminded that degree>diplomma (rank).
Added on November 4, 2008, 12:07 amQUOTE(Ragdolls @ Nov 1 2008, 07:10 PM)
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Hey people I'm new to this forum (: I joined typically because of this thread ( Haha! ).
Anyways, I fear that my results in my trials ( SPM ) and SPM itself will not be valid. You see, I've tried very hard but I can't seem to pass in my BM ( Bahasa Malaysia ). I've tried hard and I'm actually on a margent of a migraine now since I've just revised on all the Penanda wanana(s), rumusan and novels. And SPM is eleven days from now! But I was just pondering, what would happen to me if I failed in my BM? I know they ARE consequences but I can't seem to get a keen and thorough definition and view of what the consequences would be.
So if you would be so kind, would you please tell me what I should expect so I shall be better prepared for the obstacles ahead?
Oh and just incase you were wondering what my interests in studies are, ( to help specifically answer my questions or out of sheer curiousity). I'd love to further my studies in courses relating to life sciences/biology, particularly botany. I have a passion for plants and I don't think I could bore myself studying in this path. I also indulge in writing ( I have a flair
), particularly the editting for newspapers and magazines kinda - sort. But, I'm afraid that my BM results for SPM would hinder this ambition of mine and possibly taint it
So in short ;;
What would happen if I failed in my BM?
If I had to retake the july's BM paper, do I have to pay and what if I failed in that too?
Does mass communication fit my description for editting and writing? If its another field PLEASE do mention.
What is the difference between going to a local university and private university?
If, let's say I desire to go overseas to study ( and I'm financially stable, just saying for this case ), what would be the first advisable step after SPM ?Please answer as much of my questions as you can

. Do not chide my questions, and try not to be fastidious too, please. I'm just a boy curious and wanting to prepare for the future to come. Thank you.


LOL, I will just skip, hope you don't mind.
- Fail BM = no SPM certificate for you, pretty much means you're doomed.
- Not sure wheter you need to pay for it or not but most probably it isn't free and won't be very expensive.
- Fail again? Haha, retake again! (unless you don't want your SPM of course.)
- The most significant difference would be the fee, IPTS is way more expensive.
- Gather up information?
Anyway, passing BM in SPM isn't that hard actually, I never get A during my normal exams in school but ended up getting an A in SPM, lol.
And most importantly,
How can you fail your BM? It's our Bahasa KEBANGSAAN~!
This post has been edited by Dr@gon: Nov 4 2008, 01:14 PM