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 Gold investment corner v4, Will gold price achieve USD2000 by 2012?

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kakiayam
post Nov 18 2011, 10:17 AM

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if cherroy using overvalue housing price to compare with something undervalue, yes of course 2kg of gold nowadays cant buy a house. But overvalue property will get back to its own value once the market crash. If today US dollar back to gold standard, i believe 2kg is enough to get a house.

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post Nov 18 2011, 12:30 PM

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there's alot reason for the gold price up n down. You dont need to worry so much if you holding the real gold on your hand, unless you holding a gold saving bank book with numbers inside smile.gif

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post Nov 18 2011, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(ooorait @ Nov 18 2011, 01:57 PM)
y do you say so? rclxub.gif
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why do you buy gold?
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post Nov 18 2011, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(ooorait @ Nov 18 2011, 03:06 PM)
still havent bought it cos people say will drop summore..

just wanted to know why no need to worry if holding real gold than bank book gold..

many things i still dont know.. sorry for my noob question blush.gif  blush.gif
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its hard for me to explain, you can buy bank book gold to earn money and thats your reason why u want to buy gold. For me, my view is gold and silver will be the currency in the future, but not really bringing gold and silver go shopping of course. I mean i predict that USD will collapse in the future, so do our currency will collapse too because most of the currencies backed by USD. When the time come, no matter how many thousand paper currency you have in bank, you cant buy anything because no people want to accept it. If you want know more about gold or silver, there is few videos you can find in youtube. Let me show you the american dream





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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 18 2011, 03:20 PM)
Same one lah.
Paper gold or physical gold, if spot gold price goes down, both value goes down.
But it doesn't matter if you are not going to sell it or intend to hold it.

Lose/gain doesn't materialise until one day you sell it.

Even you hold paper gold, you hold x g or x kg, it is the same with holding physical gold.
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you are correct from the above theory. What if bank facing bankruptcy? What is bank suddenly change their terms and cant withdraw physical gold? Bank has the rights to change anything without further notice. So im telling him what his purpose to buy gold. If he wants to generate some 'cash' then buy the paper gold, if he buy gold because he has the same thinking as me, then get the physical gold. No matter how, please do not borrow money to play with gold/silver, there is only 2 ending, either stay in heaven or go to hell.

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post Nov 18 2011, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 18 2011, 03:43 PM)
The theory is flawed.
There is impossible to have 2 currency at pair to collapse together.
If USD collapse, and RM also collapse, exchange rate will remain the same at 3.15.  whistling.gif
Also, no currency is backed by USD, irrelevant.

If we do reach that stage, all paper money cannot be used, you may worry more about war, aka the society become chaotic, and your gold in your house may be robbed or even confiscated already.
When you need gold to buy foods, you better worry about your life and your family safety, not gold anymore.  smile.gif

If buy gold because of worry about currency become devalued due to inflation due to massive money printing, then yes, it is logical.

But to say USD collapse and RM collapse and so does the rest of currency also collapse, every paper money cannot be used this is flaw already.

Currency exchange work in pair one.
If USD does collapse, it just means at least one currency is appreciating, just like Yen recently.

Yes, if you view bank will bankrupt, please buy as much as physical gold you can, as well as borrow as much as you can to buy gold.
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How many countries are borrowing money to the US? When the USD collapse im pretty sure that the other countries unable to get back their money. Which country borrow the most to the US? Where did malaysian bank invest to? Im not talking about foreign exchange and of course i know foreign exchange works in pair.

Why did the US hold the physical gold instead of paper gold? They could save alot if they hold the paper gold and not building such a big vault, they could sell off all their gold to pay off some of their debts and purchase it back in the paper gold, why they didnt do it? Why recently many countries start to store physical gold? Why not diamond, diamond is more expensive than gold. Why not platinum??
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post Nov 21 2011, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(chrischin @ Nov 21 2011, 11:17 AM)
Hey guys, wanna check with you, is there any difference between a normal gold coin and a proof-gold coin in terms of $ value? In silver, i think the proof-silver costs much more than the normal coin.

Appearance wise, is the "proof" suppose to be nicer?  blush.gif

Anyone got any knowledge on this?

Thanks.
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to make it easy, proof=mirror like. The value of proof and non proof is the same. Silver is still a silver. Depends of yourself which you want to buy. For me i do keep some proof coin because it was too tempting till i cant reject to buy it.
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post Dec 11 2011, 05:15 PM

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if paper gold is safe enough, why all the countries keep on buying physical gold and need to find a secure place to store it. They can just buy it through a bank and keep the 'gold saving book' in their drawer
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post Dec 15 2011, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(eehtsitna @ Dec 15 2011, 08:03 AM)
Morning guys!

They are doing a buy 200gm free 1 gm promotion at the moment. Saw it in today's paper.
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pbbank spread is ard rm6-7/gram. Dont rush to buy because of that 1gm of physical gold because 200gm x rm6-7 its about 1.2-1.4k. With this kind of spread, u definitely could buy 1/4oz, which mean 7gram+
kakiayam
post Dec 20 2011, 12:57 AM

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few kg gold store at house no
problem at all. few kg is really very small only. In a shoes box ady can hide few kgs. No people will know you store gold at your house unless u show off to everyone and that is your problem. Buy safe deposit box at home to store gold is also a dumb thing because that will be the 1st place for the thief to search. Just hide your gold at a place that the thief will never expect it, eg hide it in your messy store room.
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post Dec 21 2011, 12:32 PM

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i dont know cherroy's brain is filled with grass or what. When i meant shoe box as an example, i mean store your valuable things in a place that never expected by a thief. That was just an example. If you have a brain you will know that when you place a safety box in your house, that will be the 1st place the thief is going to search for. I just ask people here to store their physical things at some place in their house that never expected by a thief. Do you get what i mean 'MR SMART CHERROY'?

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