Hello guys , i am new here ..

Anyone of you know anything about legal examiner / court doctor ? what is the pathway ? and where is the place to study ?

criminology in M'sia is in high demand not ? what is the pathway ?

What is forensic criminology ?
any private Uni /college provided forensic science ?

if we completed forensic science in degree ,is it possible to become court doctor if further study ?
much appreciated for those who are providing information =)

UKM and USM do offer forensic science.......but the job prospect is growing very slow......If you want to work at police department, they will require you to become a police then everything is good for you unless leave this field......

Court doctor, I will look them as a forensic pathologist.....You need to have MBBS or MD first then specialise in pathology.....this is the only way, be a doctor.......

I know there's this girl who studied forensic science, and she ended up working at a warehouse in a manufacturing company...

i have read some articles ..
they will not accept those who wear glasses as it considers as " police "
But most of the students are wearing and this makes them struggling after completed their degree .

How about the other countries .. like singapore ??

By the way .i' m doing A level right now .So ,is it possible for me to enter UKM or USM ?
any private uni ?

Honestly ,i kinda worry about my choice as it will affect and determin any future ,hoping will find some extra information at here .

It may sounds a bit unorthodox, but you may learn a lot of forensics stuff from CSI and Dexter

Why ? lost the passion ?But many people didnt get into the field which nothing related about the course that they studied
btw .. where did she graduate from ?

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Added on November 11, 2011, 10:23 pmactually i have interest in criminology too ,hope after completed forensic science and can go further study for forensic criminology , quite struggling as the range of this field in M'sia not very wide

This post has been edited by JinWind: Nov 11 2011, 10:23 PM

For the police, you should check their requirements....and there is no guarantee that you can work as a forensic scientist in the police department........

If you can afford overseas, then just go ahead, this field in Malaysia needs years to warm up....

i really respect those who work in this field. may i ask,what influences you to enter this field?

i think i'll complete my degree at M'sia then just go for further in overseas .

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Added on November 12, 2011, 1:42 amhave big question marks when people make crimes, steal away other people things ,conditions of those killers and some issues regarding this field & etc (long story ) xD






This post has been edited by JinWind: Nov 12 2011, 01:42 AM

Better you take overseas degree and work there..........because

1) The course structure may not suit overseas workforce....

2) because of 1), you may get unemployed and stuck in Msia yourself

3) Very less local private uni offer this , I am not sure

really ?
but i have financial problem .couldnt afford the huge tuition fee ...

Can find out financial aid if your result is good......since you take A level, you still have broader choices.......

any other courses which related to this field ?

Applied Chem or Bio....not very sure....

MSU University offer this course.

i searched MSU website edi ,but the information is insufficient .Do u know any information ? is it new course in MSU ?
the only 1 private uni ?

I dunno whether it's new or not...

Ok , thanks anyway =)

Forensic science is a huge branch. A lot of field are directly or indirectly related to forensic science anyway. My course only touch briefly on forensic, and what can i say, its not my cup of tea. I reckon CSI are left for the police anyway, and forensic chemist are the one analysing the samples and whats not.

But i did have a chance to observe a real life autopsy, well, enlightening, but its not for the weak of heart.

Anyway i think anyone has a chance to be a legal examiner / court doctor since u are merely there to provide opinions regarding the evidence. But then the judge have a right to kick u out if ur credentials aren't good enough. Working experiences, education matters i guess.

^ correct me if i am wrong, i am just spitting out what the lecturer taught me.

This post has been edited by pipedream: Nov 13 2011, 12:17 AM

Your information definitely is helpful for me .

Mind to specific bit regarding ur course ?? And which Uni are u in now ?


What ? real life autopsy? awesome !!! it was great experience for u . haha

If you really want to see real autopsy, consider MBBS or MD........

Lol, my course has no way related to forensic. Just merely a module that i have to take.

But yeah, to conduct an autopsy u must be a qualified pathologist first (mbbs or doctor). I was just lucky to have that chance, thanks to the guest lecturer.

Most probably forensic science course offered in most unis touch on the forensic chemist aspect, like analysing content of substance, analysing the evidence threads, fibres etc. But then again, i think if u take chemistry instead of forensic science it would be a better choice as i think the only place to work as a forensic chemist is the jabatan kimia malaysia linked directly to the police.

Wao , i dont think i can study MBBS ,as my result is not excellent .

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Added on November 13, 2011, 12:05 pmwhich uni u are in now ? haha , maybe i can go to study your course in order to see the real life autopsy.haha.

Jabatan Kimia is directly working with police? they help in all the analysis ?

This post has been edited by JinWind: Nov 13 2011, 12:05 PM

Biology courses may give you a chance to see autopsy.....but you will get bored looking for them after years.......You should be interested in pathology or related field rather than see real life autopsy........

Jabatan Kimia Yes, you can work under them but dont know how they look at forensic degree in Malaysia....

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What he said.

I'm from USM Health Campus, here we got Forensic Science course. I must tell you, the course is indeed very interesting. However, most of my Forensic friends were disappointed when they found out they do not deal with corpses and autopsy, more lab works. (these friends of mine thought they are going to cut and cut mayat). They did have to go to see crime scenes if there were any accidents, murders happened. But if you want to be a court doctor, a coroner, doing autopsy you need first to take Medicine, get a MD or MBBS then pursue your MSc in forensics pathology or related. You cant deal with autopsy if you start with Forensic Science degree..

Oh I'm not Forensics student btw.

This post has been edited by shenanigans: Nov 13 2011, 10:29 PM

Forensic is more to examine and test the specimen.....

I'm doing my A level course now .USM accepts A level students or not ?

my fren told me if further study after degree in forensic science ,there is the chance for u to ba a court doc .
i gotta tell him these all information ..

crime scene ? is real crime scene or just experiment ?

I heard about the job of forensic science is kinda low . And those who wear spects cant work in police department as they consider as " police " .. Do u have any friends who have completed degree in forensic science edi ? where do they work ?

Forget about the crime scene.........USM accepts a levels......Court doctor is pathologist, pathologist is MBBS holder, a certified doctor....

Oh . really ? that 's great . haha .. what 's the requirement ?
USM doesnt have criminology / psychology ..right ?

UKM did have psychology.......Check their website..... for requirements...

UKM accepts Alvl students ??

the job prospect for forensic isn't that great overseas as well to be honest. I've friends in the course and they are sweating over their future careers. For Criminology, it is a rather wide area. You can pursue it in psychology or even in law. Depending on what you want to do. For autopsy, you'll need to be a pathologist ie after your MBBS/MD degree.

Local unis do accept A levels but they prioritize matrik/form 6 students if i'm not mistaken. and doesnt necessarily mean you can get the course you want. =) all the best.

alright.thank you so much .your information really helpful

USM accepts more A level students, from my observation during interview.....

so if i want to be forensic chemist, so wat should i study after SPM?

Which pre-uni do you prefer???? A level, SAM, STPM???? Bio and Chem + Maths.....most probably...

i would choose A level but if i didnt study for bio, i still can study?

What degree do you want to take later??? If they need Bio, then you have to take.....A level science students usually take Physics, Bio and Maths.....

any recommend which degree should suit me?

In Malaysia, take chemistry degree or biology, then join PDRM to get a job in forensic or you can apply for Jabatan Kimia....It is better to look for someone who works in the forensic department or chemistry department to get your answer......

Overseas I have no idea.......

i thought chemistry and biology degree is together, so if din't take biology in SPM still can study?

If you want to take degree, they look at your pre-U first, not SPM, it doesnt matter...

so, after SPM, take a level then take degree?am i right?

sorry for so many questions.....

SPM>Alevel>Degree....

for degree, uni will probably set requirements like you need what subjects to join.....Target what do you want to do for degree, then check what subjects they need for A level students.....

Still a little bit confused here
Well I plan to be a forensic lab analyst in the future (examine blood and stuff in the lab)
1. What course should I be taking? Forensic science? Biomed? Chemistry or...?
heard they dont employ ppl with a forensic science degree o.o
2. Is maths important? Because I don't plan on taking maths for a-levels. Maybe bio chem and psychology.