Can some insider from the fibre cable industry share with us what is this about?



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"Projek Pemasangan Kabel Jalur Lebar Berkelajuan Rendah":lol: going on in my housing area starting last month which is non TM related.

They are installing new poles similar to TM telephone poles(but are not) and also running them on existing TNB electricity poles.
Those cables NEVER touches TM poles for some reasons.

The unfamiliar recognition with those cables are that they have GREEN stripes instead of YELLOW owned by TM Unifi's.

I had the opportunity to ask supervisor of the cable contractor on the job and he says it's going to be used for Maxis upcoming cable TV and broadband project something between the lines.

I'm very heppi now that finally some competing ISPs is now hearing the pleas of Ipoh residents since TM has been depriving us of Unifi for so long.

Thank you for hearing the needs of Ipoh residents.

Looks like some other telco player is helping lay fibre optic in Ipoh earlier than TM. Kuddos to them.

This post has been edited by iipohbee: Nov 20 2011, 05:57 PM

Pasir Putih, Ipoh Towards Seng Heng Store Area/Jln. Pasir Putih.

The cable contractor says the network will eventually serve whole of Ipoh area. Sounds good since Unifi is not serious making any efforts here in Ipoh.

Sounds like somebody outside TM is hearing to our needs.

No signs of Unifi until now at postcode: 31650 where Pasir Putih, Pengkalan and new Aeon Station 18 is located nearby.

Now the only Unifi infrastructure seen only in 31400 which is Tasek exchange (Kg Simee, Taman Shukor, Tambun Baru, Sunway & part of Ipoh Garden). That also still many areas such as Canning Garden, Fair Park all nothig seen yet.

Also Jelapang 30020 is yet to be available in their Unifi availability site check.

If TM going to start laying at Pasir Putih, maybe another 2 years from now lah.

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Added on November 9, 2011, 8:31 pmTasek/Ipoh Garden/part of Bercham postcode is already available for registration for Unifi with 31400

Jelapang is 30020

Pasir Putih/Pinji is 31650

You can check here:

http://www.unifi.my/unifi/index.php?Itemid...nt&view=article

This post has been edited by iipohbee: Nov 9 2011, 08:31 PM

At least Time/Maxis have better understanding of high demand than TM

They are targeting places such as GeorgeTown, Gurney and Ipoh City.

Ipoh Central's postcode is 30000 leading down to Jln Pasir Putih which ends around Pasir Putih/Pinji/Pengkalan suburb with 31650

This is where most of the city's population are mainly concentrated within city limits.

No doubt majority of the population are Chinese.

This post has been edited by iipohbee: Nov 9 2011, 08:56 PM

I tried searching for some info on this and this was what I found out:

The setup here is the exact thing which Maxis trialed in Bangsar Baru and Damansara some 2 years ago where they started pulling fibre on TNB poles.



Source:
http://asia.cnet.com/blogs/im-beta-testing...th-62115311.htm

Further search revealed that one of the forumer here is connected to this Maxis exclusive fibre network. His handle is Kampung2005

The equipment setup by Maxis as posted by him:



(Kampung, I borrow some pics from you, ok )

This post has been edited by iipohbee: Nov 10 2011, 09:20 PM

All TM Unifi infrastructure is accessible for Maxis Fibre Home but the opposite is not true if the network is exclusively owned by Maxis themselves like the ones in Bangsar Baru, Sierramas and Bandar Utama.

Correct me if I'm wrong.Nothing in the recent press mentioned that Maxis is allowing TM to provide Unifi on their own built fibre network for the way around but they are paying TM Wholesale for access to the HSBB instead.

There are good and bad points for this.

An exclusive network allows the network operator to have full control over it.
Things such as more bandwidth reservation for each user to allow more STBs to be installed and higher bandwidth packages. Risk of wholesale operator prioritizing own isp etc.
You don't need to be accompanied by TM technicians along with Maxis technicians for installs.

Downside: Less choices unless other players such as Jaring, P1, Time and NTT willing to sign up with Maxis last mile wholesale.

It's a 2 edged sword actually.

Maybe they don't have the funds and expertise as said.

But I'm happy that some other telco is being serious in their business direction and willing to cover my area which TM is reluctant to offer.

I'm not sure if TM Business Research does its network planning by using demand list entries but it's not quite an accurate way of evaluation. "Astroturfing" does exist:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing

Someone could simply key in fake credentials or someone else's details just to put demand in your "DEMAND LIST" if they wanted to.

This is a typical home located in Taman Shukur:

http://www.ipohhouse.com/search/label/Bercham

Why is TM targetting areas such as Taman Shukur as one of the 1st in Ipoh to roll out Unifi left many people questioning in the dark.

Homes such as this are already covered by Unifi but not for homes that cost 10X more close to a million?
If you have say in the ISP, which area would you choose to service instead?

Key in 31400 under address keyword and you will find it covered already.Even open for registration.

https://occ.unifi.my/HSBBCustomerPortal/HSB...e_checkcoverage

A smart telco would look at its customer spending habits and ARPU by area.Not merely by looking at "Demand List" that could possibly be made up.

To have Maxis considered my area, I'm sure they have enough statistics and demand to justify their decisions.My area is still part greenfield with gated communities sprucing up. We were one of the 1st to have Jaring Flite ADSL as alternative broadband in Malaysia.

Not very effective way because it can be invalidated just like "undi palsu". Astroturfing is like ghost voters.

A person who wants to increase demand/votes his area could just make fake entries as many as he/she like.

So do you practice ghost voting or by any chance encourage such practices?

I was merely pointing out to you that demand lists has its shortcomings and entries could be made fake. Some freelancer or housing developer could just spend his time placing requests just to satisfy his own purpose. It has no difference than casting ghost votes.

Then you come telling me that why don't I such thing since its "good for me".I asked you in return if you have by any chance condone such practices but now you're quick to shout back at me and relate it all to politics?

Anyway this is what happens when you allow fake demand and speculation to be created:
Areas with homes that are in such conditions are covered by Unifi while properties that deserve such facilities are not.

Taman Shukur

Now you're calling me delusional. Who cry the word politics 1st?

Hi there. Have you got your house covered by Unifi yet since you live in Tambun which is under Tasek exchange?

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1461083/+1740#

If not why don't you join in my thread and update everyone on your area's progress.
This was my real intention of creating this topic but there was someone who wanted to stir things up.

Did you know that property prices can be simply be increased by 8-16% just by having FTTH coverage?



With this said do you know what political game is being played?

This post has been edited by iipohbee: Nov 15 2011, 08:57 PM

It's uses broadband to deliver services but at low speed packages such as only 5M when Korea is going FULL 1Gbps in the next 1-2 years?

Batu Gajah is also considered a suburb of Ipoh. If fibre is pulled in this direction, next would be your suburb and the rest such as Simpang Pulai, Batu Gajah & Gopeng because their exchanges are just next to Pasir Putih.

Supermarket only nothing special.But then tenants would also want broadband in their shops. How?
Streamyx is the only choice?

The exchange in your area(Tasek) is already servicing Unifi. Sunway Tambun already have fiber cabinets labelled with "TSK Cxxx" and along the road with the army camp.

FTTH is every urbanite basic rights.

By the way do they have those remote cabinets installed near your house labelled with "VxxxxV?
If got then its just when they want to add the outdoor FDC right next to it.

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Added on November 17, 2011, 9:51 pm[EDIT]

Here's another point that people should take note.

Fibre optics at least with GPON allows an extended coverage range of around 4X of ADSL.

Meaning traditional telephone exchanges could only cover distances below 5km radius depending on copper wiring conditions but fibre optics using GPON can extend upto 20km in length. With repeaters, it could even go further without taking much hit.

It's not surprising that with just a telephone exchange it can now cover the whole city.

This post has been edited by iipohbee: Nov 17 2011, 09:51 PM

Can you tell me what are you seeing at your place?
Which kind of cabinet?

This type(1):


Or this type(2):


If type(1), it means your area has fibre optic available. Provisioning of Unifi service will depend on when TM wants to service your area. But you're assured that fibre is already READY for further action.

If type(2) it's confirm Unifi will be made available in FTTH in your area.You can start applying . Usually they build this next to type(1) cabinets or those long rocket shape old switches.

If you tour the housing area behind De Garden you'll find many of type(2) FDC cabinets with label "TSK Cxxx"

TSK is the exchange office shortcode and I have no idea what C is followed by 3 digit identifier number.
C could probably mean cable as to fibre optic cable.

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Added on November 19, 2011, 12:28 amWhich part of Greentown did you saw this activity going on?

Were they installed aerially on TNB poles too or underground? Where was it heading?

As for Gunung Rapat, it's next as soon as TM completes Tmn Cempaka which is under TSK exchange.



This post has been edited by iipohbee: Nov 19 2011, 12:28 AM

It's in Setia Alam. I just borrowed it to do some explanation.
Usually you'll see these cabinets labelled with:
[Area Code] followed by:
F
R
VxxxxV (most recent ones)

It does not GUARANTEE that you'll be getting Unifi though except provide hints that fibre is available.

Huh P1? However we are the one of the 1st areas in Ipoh to be serviced by P1 which is true.

I don't have an idea what V also means. Absolutely no idea.
V= video, VDSL, velocity, whatever.
But if you see cabinet type(1) you know there's fibre in your area already.

The correct channel to contact in Perak is:

http://www.kperak.com.my/index.php?page=kinfra

Head
Ho Hsieh Hsiung
Email : hsiungho@kperak.com.my

Some important information about Perak InfoComms infra:

Partner ISP: Jaring

Alternatives for Last Mile connectivity:
• Broadband Over Powerline (BOP)

• Long Term Evolution (LTE) 4G

• Fiber-to-the-home (FTTH)

I would disagree and oppose (BOP). FTTH should be the preferred choice.
without an extensive fibre network, BOP and LTE won't materialize.

It as simple idea as trying to plug in a 256kbps DSL WAN connection into a 300mbps MIMO Wireless-N router. Would you still experience fast internet connection? How about replacing the WAN connection with a 100mbps FTTH line?

Same applies to BOP substations and LTE access points. Are you going to get enough internet experience if bandwidth is insufficient?

Your area's exchange is already servicing Unifi. Any new cables running on the telephone poles that you noticed?
The road leading into Tambun turning in from Jln. Sultan Azlan Shah already has one of the type(2) cabinet in front of the army camp.Place close attention on your way back to Tambun town. Sunway Tambun also already covered with one of type(2) cabinets just in front of Sunway College branch. Confirm it with TM staffs if you see them on the streets working nearby your place by striking a conversation with them.

Yes you're right. It doesn't meant anything except just an early indication that fibre is already available in your housing area.Most areas in KV right before Unifi launch were getting these remote cabinets 2 years back.

Until you see type(2) cabinets appearing in your area, FTTH won't be available in your area.

I've not heard of VDSL2 being to depoyed to landed homes yet until now so there's no way those type(1) cabinet will be serving Unifi to landed homes.

Thanks. I will try to find it on my way to Greentown in the next few days.
If not mistaken, that cable is leading to Greentown Business Centre and where Maxis office is.

This post has been edited by iipohbee: Nov 20 2011, 02:25 AM

Nope. Those V labelled ones are most recent.So far only for new ZTE cabinets that I've seen.

They have F and R labelled cabinets before this.

This post has been edited by iipohbee: Nov 20 2011, 03:19 AM

It's with yellow stripped pattern.

Did you locate or saw any of the following cabinets type(1) or type(2) around your housing area?
Or possible take a picture of the telephone poles behind or near your house?