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 Samsung Galaxy W (I8150) Official Thread, A Wonder, A Galaxy S+ in disguise

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post Nov 23 2011, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Nov 23 2011, 11:25 AM)
/sdcard/Android/data is under your "phone memory". you see, the internal storage of the SGW divided into 2:

1) Phone memory
2) Internal SD (also known as USB) that mount into folder /sdcard

When you plug in an external SD, it will be mount into: /sdcard/external_sd

if after unzip you get "com.galapagossoft.trialx2_gl2", u just cut this folder, and put into

/sdcard/Android/data
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already tested it .. so all the games are install inside sdcard(phone memory) not usb card (external memory) sad.gif
so we cant install many of high end android games inside SGW .. exp:if want to install internal legacy, we need at least 1.4gb free space inside sdcard (phone memory) ...

so if the data inside ''/sdcard/Android/data'' cant be moved to external sd is it?
erm.. rclxub.gif
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post Nov 23 2011, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(ranc79 @ Nov 23 2011, 02:36 PM)
sgs+ is super amoled with gorilla glass.. internal storage 8Gb compared to 4Gb in sgw.. that's the only different between this two model.. they are having same chipset and gpu
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bro.. chipset is same but speed different.
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post Nov 23 2011, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(ekudz @ Nov 23 2011, 02:41 PM)
already tested it .. so all the games are install inside sdcard(phone memory) not usb card (external memory) sad.gif
so we cant install many of high end android games inside SGW .. exp:if want to install internal legacy, we need at least 1.4gb free space inside sdcard (phone memory) ...

so if the data inside ''/sdcard/Android/data'' cant be moved to external sd is it?
erm..  rclxub.gif
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USB storage = internal storage = internal sd, they are in a confusing name "/sdcard"

External SD in using an even more confusing name "/sdcard/external_sd"

To install Internal Legacy, u can either free up space (u have total 1.7gb) or do 1 of the following:

1) patch the game (no need root)
2) sawp mount point between /sdcard and /sdcard/external_sd (need root)
3) format internal sd as ext4 and use soft link
4) use mount bind (need root)
Etc......


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post Nov 23 2011, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Nov 23 2011, 02:26 PM)
Just now went and check out the ram usage.

Around 350 ram is available for us to use. But thing is that 170+ was used up even though there wasn't any active applications in the background.

I used the browser to surf 3 websites[desktop version] and it ate 100mb+ already. So total ram available was already almost full sweat.gif

So what was the 170+ ram used up for?
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Anyone? Thanks!
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post Nov 23 2011, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Nov 23 2011, 02:50 PM)
bro.. chipset is same but speed different.
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please check carefully on the phone.. samsung galaxy w and samsung galaxy s plus.. they r all having 1.4 ghz .. unless somthing wrong with my eye..

was looking at the phone spec from gsmarena now for both phone
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post Nov 23 2011, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Nov 23 2011, 02:51 PM)
USB storage = internal storage = internal sd, they are in a confusing name "/sdcard"

External SD in using an even more confusing name "/sdcard/external_sd"

To install Internal Legacy, u can either free up space (u have total 1.7gb) or do 1 of the following:

1) patch the game (no need root)
2) sawp mount point between /sdcard and /sdcard/external_sd (need root)
3) format internal sd as ext4 and use soft link
4) use mount bind (need root)
Etc......
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ok.. thx but got a few question .

1) what is soft link?
2) how to patch the game?
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post Nov 23 2011, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(ranc79 @ Nov 23 2011, 04:15 PM)
please check carefully on the phone.. samsung galaxy w and samsung galaxy s plus.. they r all having 1.4 ghz .. unless somthing wrong with my eye..

was looking at the phone spec from gsmarena now for both phone
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same but speed got different. some said W faster some said S+ faster. rclxub.gif
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post Nov 23 2011, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Nov 23 2011, 02:26 PM)
Just now went and check out the ram usage.

Around 350 ram is available for us to use. But thing is that 170+ was used up even though there wasn't any active applications in the background.

I used the browser to surf 3 websites[desktop version] and it ate 100mb+ already. So total ram available was already almost full sweat.gif

So what was the 170+ ram used up for?
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SGW has 512MB RAM, once you boot up the phone, a RamDisk will be created and filled with critical OS files in the root folder (/). Leaving only 351MB for used.

Then, Android OS and other components will be loaded into the memory. This is what taking the 170MB RAM.

Browsers in desktop have been designed to use memory lavishly, on the other hand, Android app are more concern about memory. But need not worry if browser is taking too much RAM since all modern OS has Virtual memory concept. That mean, if not enough RAM, part of the storage can be used as RAM, but it will slow down tremendously of cause.

Do not worry if your RAM usage is high, that mean Android is caching your favourite App. Unused app will be suspended and if continue to be unused, will be map to a file if there is a new App require more RAM.
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post Nov 23 2011, 03:27 PM

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cow: sound so pro on gadgets. u 4get ur lappy?
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post Nov 23 2011, 03:28 PM

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with the same clock speed.. same gpu.. and i try to do a little bit of google searching.. seems like both r also having almost the same quadrant score.. i don't see what will make both running different speed.. or which one is faster.. most likely is the user own feeling only..
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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Nov 23 2011, 03:27 PM)
cow: sound so pro on gadgets. u 4get ur lappy?
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post Nov 23 2011, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(ekudz @ Nov 23 2011, 03:17 PM)
ok.. thx but got a few question .

1) what is soft link?
2) how to patch the game?
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1) Soft link is a common technique in Unix that allow you to create a file or folder that is empty but point to another file. For example, u can create a softlink like this:

CODE
ln -s /sdcard/gameloft /sdcard/external_sd/gameloft


This will create an empty folder "/sdcard/gameloft" that automatically point to the actual file contents in " /sdcard/external_sd/gameloft"

That is done via OS level, so all App will be able to see as if all data is inside "/sdcard/gameloft"

2) To patch a game, you need to Decompile the APK using APKTool and dex2jar (google). Most of the time, after u decompile it, simply do a string search for the path such as "NaviSEA" and hex edit it.

An easier alternative is to google for someone that already do that for you. Google "Gameloft sd card patch"
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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Nov 23 2011, 03:27 PM)
cow: sound so pro on gadgets. u 4get ur lappy?
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my laptop is my wife... my SGW is my mistress .... so, u say who is more sexy, fun and exciting? rolleyes.gif

but i go back sleep with my wife every night wub.gif
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QUOTE(ranc79 @ Nov 23 2011, 04:28 PM)
with the same clock speed.. same gpu.. and i try to do a little bit of google searching.. seems like both r also having almost the same quadrant score.. i don't see what will make both running different speed.. or which one is faster.. most likely is the user own feeling only..
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ok bro flex.gif


Added on November 23, 2011, 3:34 pm
QUOTE(cowithgun @ Nov 23 2011, 04:33 PM)
my laptop is my wife... my SGW is my mistress .... so, u say who is more sexy, fun and exciting?  rolleyes.gif

but i go back sleep with my wife every night  wub.gif
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wait i get it must have a lot stuff 2 asked u.

This post has been edited by ngkhanmein: Nov 23 2011, 03:34 PM
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post Nov 23 2011, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Nov 23 2011, 03:31 PM)
1) Soft link is a common technique in Unix that allow you to create a file or folder that is empty but point to another file. For example, u can create a softlink like this:

CODE
ln -s /sdcard/gameloft /sdcard/external_sd/gameloft


This will create an empty folder "/sdcard/gameloft" that automatically point to the actual file contents in " /sdcard/external_sd/gameloft"

That is done via OS level, so all App will be able to see as if all data is inside "/sdcard/gameloft"

2) To patch a game, you need to Decompile the APK using APKTool and dex2jar (google). Most of the time, after u decompile it, simply do a string search for the path such as "NaviSEA" and hex edit it.

An easier alternative is to google for someone that already do that for you. Google "Gameloft sd card patch"
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waa..very confusing rclxub.gif .. u better open a class .. hehehe!!~ thumbup.gif
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post Nov 23 2011, 03:39 PM

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u need pay tuition fees when attend class whistling.gif
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dont mean to make it sound complicated.. those are the answers i copy and parse from google biggrin.gif LOL
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post Nov 23 2011, 03:40 PM

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it's a little bit like pointer if you know some programming

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unker google!
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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Nov 23 2011, 03:43 PM)
unker google!
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Guys,

SGW Ori = RM899

SGR AP = RM1100

Which one u all will choose? rclxub.gif

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