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Jajay Chong Hon Keat
post Dec 3 2011, 05:16 AM

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Good morning all sifus, may I know Bosch Super 4 or NGK platinum spark plug can have better performance on wira 1.5M carb?
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post Dec 4 2011, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 3 2011, 09:53 PM)
Based on design, then Bosch...... tongue.gif
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Lolx brother sweat.gif ...Hide inside the engine nobody will care about the design de lah~! How about performance orh?? icon_question.gif
How about Denso iridium and NGK iridium? Which is better for performance?
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post Dec 4 2011, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 4 2011, 10:36 AM)
That was what I meant, the super 4 design has an open center electrode, with 4 ground electrode at the side. Spark can come from any of the 4 ground. If driving twin cam engine, plug tip is open directly in the path of the piston head, therefore getting combustion.

Denso Iridium has 0.4mm center electrode, and NGK I think is 0.6mm/ Denso claim the 0.4mm smaller sharper tip, collects or concentrate all the spark together giving a stronger spark.

The above are all claims by their respective spark plug company/distributor...... brows.gif
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For 4G15, Denso iridium or NGK iridium can get better performance? ohmy.gif
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post Dec 5 2011, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(SweeJ @ Dec 4 2011, 05:55 PM)
how often does one have to change spark plugs? if they haven't been changed for over ten years? safe to change them now?
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Added on December 5, 2011, 12:22 am
QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 4 2011, 09:35 PM)
I won't spend that kind of money on iridium plugs. Have used them before and actually I find them the same.
I would say the different makes of material is more for durability. Iridium being the hardest last a longtime, the platinum, then copper and so on. Platinum can be considered as they cost around RM70 (I think) and Iridium are doubled that.
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No orh... NGK platinium is around RM70 but the NGK iridium is around RM180... Hmm... Those accessories shop said iridium can get the best performance for the engine ><

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post Dec 5 2011, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 5 2011, 08:55 AM)
Iridium may last longer, but I doubt you will get double performance. All you will get is smoother drive.... tongue.gif
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Brother... Then NGK or denso is better?
Denso iridium plugs gt a lot of model (e.g.: IW24, IK24, IK22 and etc). What is the different between them?
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post Dec 5 2011, 02:19 PM

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So far for what I have heard, the super 4 is the best... So blur now... Don't know what should I get now T.T
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post Dec 5 2011, 11:59 PM

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I think I want to choose iridium plug... Any iridium plugs can introduce? My engine is Magma 4G15 carb...
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post Dec 6 2011, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 6 2011, 08:26 AM)
Try Denso then. Change accordingly using their conversation chart from your current model.
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From lelong, they said IW20 or IW24 suitable for my engine. From the Internet, they said IW16 suitable for my car... Blur >.<
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post Dec 6 2011, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Dec 6 2011, 12:31 PM)
It is the ground electrode that wears out the plug. The spark fires from the center electrode to the ground electrode. It is the ground electrode that gets blown to bits. I have seen that happen on my single iridium and platinum plugs after 20000km in my previous car. In my current car, I wear out the NGK Double Laser platinums (which is the recommended stock plugs for my car) at about 50000km.
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But NGK din mention which plugs suit which engine bah... Scare after get the most expensive one but no suit your engine, it's meaningless.
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post Dec 6 2011, 10:36 PM

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Ok. Now the problem is where can I get those plugs? Sabah seems like hard to find the plugs suitable for your engine.
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post Dec 7 2011, 02:17 AM

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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 6 2011, 11:55 PM)
spare part shops don't carry them?

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I am not sure because I have never go check before. Really need to find one day free to check cool2.gif
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post Dec 7 2011, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 7 2011, 08:45 AM)
They should have, anyway most of the ones here have....... nod.gif
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It's hard to find in Sabah because Sabahan are very stingy one...


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QUOTE(Jajay Chong Hon Keat @ Dec 7 2011, 10:28 AM)
It's hard to find in Sabah because Sabahan are very stingy one...
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post Dec 7 2011, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Dec 7 2011, 11:23 AM)
search at Garage Sales here and ask the seller to post it to you.
cheaper than wasting fuel going round and round asking 1 by 1 shop.
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Ya... You are right bro. But I still have two new spark plugs at home. Can find slowly =)


Added on December 7, 2011, 11:41 am
QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 7 2011, 10:44 AM)
But rich...... tongue.gif
or no wonder they are rich...... biggrin.gif
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Hahaha because sabah has no place for us to spend money...


Added on December 7, 2011, 1:33 pmHey bros and Sifus... Anyone know where can I find the suitable series of Bosch sparkplugs for my car engine 4g15 carb? I just found a Bosch dealer here...

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post Dec 7 2011, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 7 2011, 04:30 PM)
2 new plugs or 2 sets?? tongue.gif
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Two sets tongue.gif
Oh ya~ I found a bosch dealer around KK ady~ Can anyone teach me how to find a suitable bosch spark plugs for my magma 4g15 carb engine? Better give me the series number smile.gif
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post Dec 8 2011, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 8 2011, 08:48 AM)
They should be able to tell you if they are Bosch dealer.
Anyway, for Bosch the heat range is reverse.
Jap plugs like NGK 5 - hot, 7 - cold, meand bigger number is cold
Bosch 6 - cold, 8 - hot, means bigger number  is hot
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Erm... I can't get any messanges orh... What is cold and hot?
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post Dec 8 2011, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 8 2011, 02:00 PM)
Oh! you don't know about Hot plugs and cold plugs also. Well certain engine are designed to run hot, so they use cold plugs. The plugs helps to cool the engine. Or if running more on highway, cold plug is used.
Town driving usually hot plugs are used to help complete combustion.
Overall just follow your car manual recommendation on the plugs.
I posted the hot and cold just for your info because you want to use Bosch and if your car is running on NGK number 5 plugs and the Bosch dealer gives you a Number 8 Bosch plugs you may be confused. So now at least you should know NGK 5 is Bosch 8....hope you understand up to here? blush.gif
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Wow... That's mean NGK is better? Because it' is cold? How about denso?
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post Dec 9 2011, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 9 2011, 08:35 AM)
Looks like you still don't get it. Does not mean cold is better. Cold plugs drive in town may build up a lot of carbon if the combustion is not complete.
The number are just for guide in changing from NGK to Bosch.
For Denso they use 18, 20, 22 and so on. Smaller number is hot, bigger is cold.
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Hmm... It really confuse for me. Since I always drive high speed in highway, cold plugs are more suitable for me kan?
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post Dec 9 2011, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(vr2turbo @ Dec 9 2011, 09:57 AM)
Nope, just follow your car recommended plugs....change Brands, then follow their chart...
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Change whatever brand I want, just follow their recommended series?
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post Dec 10 2011, 09:55 AM

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Will plugs have big effect in performance?
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post Dec 10 2011, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Dec 10 2011, 11:36 AM)
plugs won't give extra power, it will give better sparks which in turn give better combustion and helps the flows of engine operation running smoothly.

actually such information (ie. how thing works) can be easily obtained by just googling.
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Then can get better performance lor since it has no misfire those...

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